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Child robots could be used to treat sexual predators and pedophiles (NY Daily News)

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entremet

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ts-treat-pedophiles-experts-article-1.1872193

Interesting to say the least.

Has anyone seen studies on recidivism rates for sex offender/pedophiles? Is therapy effective? At least someone is trying something. But it is a bit unsettling.

Well, here’s an idea that’s destined for lengthy, heated debate:

Treat pedophiles and other sexual deviants by building robots that would quench their illegal desires.

“Child-like robots could be used for pedophiles the way methadone is used to treat drug addicts,” said Ron Arkin, Georgia Tech’s Mobile Robot Lab director, according to Forbes.

At a recent robot ethics seminar at the University of California at Berkeley, experts debated moral and ethical concerns in the rising development of artificial intelligence.

Including the use of child robots as sex toys.

“We’ve had sex toys for as long as mankind, and womankind, have been around,” Arkin told the group.

Arkin said he didn’t advocate selling child-size robots as sexual aids, but rather as something to be used in research settings.

“I only believe it is worth investigating in a controlled way to possibly provide better protection to society from recidivism in sex offenders,” he told Forbes.

“If we can save some children, I think it’s a worthwhile project.”


Other experts, including Ben Way, author of "Jobocalypse: The End of Human Jobs and How Robots Will Replace Them," have suggested robots in the shape of animals and disabled people could be sold to practicers of bestiality and those with fetishes and "dark desires."
 
“Child-like robots could be used for pedophiles the way methadone is used to treat drug addicts,” said Ron Arkin, Georgia Tech’s Mobile Robot Lab director, according to Forbes.
Yeah either that or it will just embolden these people and make them more likely to abuse actual children.
 
I've got a plan which only requires an aluminum baseball bat.

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SmokyDave

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Fuck it, why not? It might just work.

Sexbots are going to do a real number on human social interactions, I fear. This is one of the applications that might just be for the better.
 
Huh. This seems worth exploring. I can't imagine it could happen soon, though. The attitude towards sex offenders in America today seems to be more like "Let them get raped and murdered!" Rather than "Maybe we can fix this."
 

Azulsky

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The methadone comparison would only make sense if pedophilia operated on the same principles of addiction right?

It seems that its fairly common today that your sexual alignments are something innate. By that understanding the only way to reduce your sexual drive towards that would be to reduce your drive as a whole.

Then we end up at chemical castration which is thinner ice.
 

entremet

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Does playing violent video games make people more likely to go and kill people? Isn't that the same premise as this?

Due to the immoral nature, this stuff is hard to study in a peered reviewed fashion of course.

However, in terms of pedophiles, was their attraction to children innate? Were they abused? Did exposure to child porn exacerbate desires for the real thing?

I think this is more complex than just substituting a robot.
 
I've got a plan which only requires an aluminum baseball bat.

You do realise some see (including the afflicted) Paedophilia as a mental ailment that deserves treatment? A paedophile only becomes a child molester when it he or she takes action on their desires. But of course aluminium bat is easier

Even so, child robots... uhh... an idea worthy of good science fiction perhaps
 

UrbanRats

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At a recent robot ethics seminar at the University of California at Berkeley, experts debated moral and ethical concerns in the rising development of artificial intelligence.
What the fuck does artificial intelligence has to do with this?

Does playing violent video games make people more likely to go and kill people? Isn't that the same premise as this?

That's assuming two different areas of the psyche, work in the same way.

However for studies, i'm fine with this of course.
The more we know the better, that applies to anything, but especially to (taboo) mental illness.
 
Huh. This seems worth exploring. I can't imagine it could happen soon, though. The attitude towards sex offenders in America today seems to be more like "Let them get raped and murdered!" Rather than "Maybe we can fix this."

Human nature. Its easier to just kill something and hope it'll be done with than to try and see if it is something that can be treated.
 

Grym

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That's not a "treatment".

Seems more like enabling and making the deviance okay (in certain circumstances...with our robots). It isn't going to 'quench' anything. It is going to give them an avenue for something close to the real thing which will stoke their desire even more for the real thing.
 

UrbanRats

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That's not a "treatment".

Seems more like enabling and making the deviance okay (in certain circumstances...with our robots). It isn't going to 'quench' anything. It is going to give them an avenue for something close to the real thing which will stoke their desire even more for the real thing.

They're talking about using it for research, in a controlled environment, not to put sex dolls on the market.
“I only believe it is worth investigating in a controlled way to possibly provide better protection to society from recidivism in sex offenders,” he told Forbes.
 

lednerg

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That's not a "treatment".

Seems more like enabling and making the deviance okay (in certain circumstances...with our robots). It isn't going to 'quench' anything. It is going to give them an avenue for something close to the real thing which will stoke their desire even more for the real thing.

Exactly. All of that virtual chair porn I watch doesn't make me not want to fuck a real chair.

EDIT: I didn't read the article either.
 

Grym

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They're talking about using it for research, in a controlled environment, not to put sex dolls on the market.

hmmm...I missed that part. I guess I don't understand the 'research' angle then.

Put a sex offender in a controlled room with a child robot to get it on with. See what happens. How does that help the situation? Maybe measuring brain waves in certain circumstances to find a pharmaceutical solution or what exactly?
 

sohois

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That's not a "treatment".

Seems more like enabling and making the deviance okay (in certain circumstances...with our robots). It isn't going to 'quench' anything. It is going to give them an avenue for something close to the real thing which will stoke their desire even more for the real thing.

How do you know? Assuming the robots are sufficiently advanced, why would any pedophiles take the risk?

This is the same kind of slippery slope argument applied to drugs "marijuana is a gateway to harder stuff, etc." But have we ever seen proper evidence of this beyond simple correlation?
 
You think that doesn't exist yet? Have you never heard of Japan?

I have heard :x

sexbots would be the future .__. and some of the sexbots will look like children. ........ yeah, i don't know what to think about that. except that i'd want nothing to do with it/the people that are into that sort of things




however, on topic. there is opportunity to learn better about human nature and impulses and self-control mechanism for this kind of resources to be put for case studies.

can't say im not skeeved out by the entire thing though .__.
 
Because people don't already use dummies as stand ins for certain sexual practises already. Nope, that sure doesn't happen already...
You mean sex dolls? Because what they're simulating is perfectly legal. There's probably a reason that those companies don't sell models of their dolls that looks like they're 10 years old.
 
Nice of them mention capable, consenting, loving, adult, child-bearing physically disabled people in the same breath as pedophilia and bestiality.
 

UrbanRats

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hmmm...I missed that part. I guess I don't understand the 'research' angle then.

Put a sex offender in a controlled room with a child robot to get it on with. See what happens. How does that help the situation? Maybe measuring brain waves in certain circumstances to find a pharmaceutical solution or what exactly?

Of course i have no idea how they would go about it, as i'm not a researcher, besides, it's a bit soon to speculate on that.
The point is, however, that we do need a more concrete way to look into this huge problem we're facing, as even rounding up all people with mental illness and shooting them in the back of the head like some suggest, isn't gonna make the problem go away, and it's not a very practical (let alone ethical or humane) solution.
 

hipbabboom

Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
So the idea here is to use a fleshlight stuck up the ass of a My Buddy doll? I'm only typing this out to verify its as ridiculous as I hoped it would sound. Yup.
 

Grym

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How do you know? Assuming the robots are sufficiently advanced, why would any pedophiles take the risk?

This is the same kind of slippery slope argument applied to drugs "marijuana is a gateway to harder stuff, etc." But have we ever seen proper evidence of this beyond simple correlation?

It isn't a slippery slope argument. They already want to fuck children. They aren't being given something that I fear will make them suddenly move onto worse things. They already went for the worse thing hence being sex offenders and given child robots as a replacement.

I look at it like addictions: If I'm a smoker, I want to smoke. Give me some nicotene gum and yeah it takes the edge off for awhile. But in a ton of cases it doesn't solve the problem. Nicorette sells and sells and sells because it isn't a complete replacement for many with that addiciton and they go back to what they crave... Yes there are success stories and I guess that is a positive though.

Of course i have no idea how they would go about it, as i'm not a researcher, besides, it's a bit soon to speculate on that.
The point is, however, that we do need a more concrete way to look into this huge problem we're facing, as even rounding up all people with mental illness and shooting them in the back of the head like some suggest, isn't gonna make the problem go away, and it's not a very practical (let alone ethical or humane) solution.

Agreed. I have nothing against the research angle if there is one. I read it incorrectly initially as a potential market-based solution
 
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