I don't know how much was your expectation, but its a mighty fine start only eclipsed by PS2 and only 50k below Wii ( which was launched during the holidays).
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PS4 sells 322,083 units in two days in Japan
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I don't know how much was your expectation, but its a mighty fine start only eclipsed by PS2 and only 50k below Wii ( which was launched during the holidays).
Psycho_Mantis
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Prince Vultan
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Better launch than I predicted at least. I was thinking it'd fall short of 300k.
They'll probs sell all the first week units easily enough it appears, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised to see the PS4 still struggling to hit a million units by Chistmas.
Sub 50k opening week is my bet.
They'll probs sell all the first week units easily enough it appears, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised to see the PS4 still struggling to hit a million units by Chistmas.
Sub 50k opening week is my bet.
SwiftDeath
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The original Xbox actually had a reasonable opening of 124K so I wouldn't be suprised if it has an ok opening. But of course about half of the OG Xbox's LTD in Japan was sold in those 3 days...
Chris1964 said:
Frontier isn't a real Monster Hunter game, and it's going to bomb on Vita.
There is a niche market of doujin games, but it's a lot smaller due to a number of factors. One, the language barrier that makes it more difficult for Japanese programers in general to find documentation and support. Two, the lesser popularity of the PC and PC gaming market in Japan. Three, the nature of the Japanese corporate structure that makes breaking into the game industry or CS field impossible without a decent college degree. So there's less of an incentive for people to turn their pet game projects into a full-time pursuit, as there's no hope that they could get hired with a good portfolio alone like western companies often do.
I went to GDC on a few occasions, and applied at the Kojima productions booth. While the other companies wanted to have one-on-one conversations with the applicants to talk about what sort of projects you've done in the past, here they simply handed you a form to fill out and attach your resume to. It was a checklist, asking you to rank your abilities in various programming languages and processes as being either 'Novice', 'Advanced', or "Expert". And that was it. I had a feeling they weren't hiring anyone who didn't check "Expert" for every question so I left.
anexanhume
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Was providing FYI. I don't know anything about the MH games to know whether "core" fans will care or how well it will sell.
panda-zebra
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we got it first, they saw our excitement from afar months earlier, no hype around us importing from there, the japanese buying more and more stuff online like the rest of us. it was never going to be all that exciting to watch.
Wii U launched in December. Nintendo consoles sell really well during holidays, as evidenced by the Wii U's past December and subsequent Jan/Feb. First week sales aren't all that meaningful. The console selling through most of its first shipment is a optimistic sign though.
If the PS4 can maintain better early numbers than the PS3, and ends up having the longevity of Sony's previous consoles, we might see Wii numbers in Japan LTD. I don't think we will return to the days of the NES-PS2 though.
MasterSheen
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When I say post launch, I'm talking each week following first week. PS4 managed to edge out Wii U despite being more expensive, launching in February, and no big exclusive launch title. However, not having these after launch hype dies down means sales could drop faster. Wii U had the benefit of launching in December to keep sales from falling below 100k for a couple if weeks. Add on the fact PS4 doesn't have much to look forward to in terms of software for the first few months, Wii U could easily start outselling it launch aligned.
LookAtMeGo
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My friend wants to order a PS4 and his games from Japan because he wants to play games in Japanese since its his native language and I told him that I think he could just buy a PS4 here (Canada) and just import his games and they should work fine. Was I wrong?
My ignorance, please understand.
My ignorance, please understand.
Mashin Haters
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FFXV we need youuuuuuuuu
BlackBuzzard
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Nope you were not wrong, the PS4 is region free so he can just buy the console in Canada and import the games from Japan. He can even make a Japanese PSN ID without any trouble.
Devilgunman
Member
He can totally do that.
djplaeskool
Member
This is true.
Whenever you see or read anything about PS4, the universal truth is that everyone is hyped for FFXV. I figure the lead up to that will be substantial.
That's perfectly fine.
My copy of Yakuza Ishin just got delivered. Will be rocking that in my NA PS4.
LookAtMeGo
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Imperfected
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I suppose it's possible. Like I said, I think the bigger cause of fall-off will be that they had pre-orders open for basically forever and a day, and Japanese gamers likely knew from launches in other regions that pre-ordering was probably a good idea for safety's sake if they wanted to ensure availability. I'm thinking that it's a situation where pre-orders to over-the-counter sales will be much more heavily weighted toward the former than usual.
I dunno, though. A lot of Japan GAF is saying Japanese gamers just love standing in lines in February, so maybe a lot of people passed on pre-orders for the thrill of being around strangers in the cold. I would be interested to see Sony's pre-order numbers in addition to their stock allocation.
BlackBuzzard
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Awesome, thanksI can keep my "knowledgeable gamer" cred.
Wii,WiiU,3DS and 360 are not region free. If we talk current gen and last gen
LookAtMeGo
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Thats what i thought, I just told him that without being 100% sure.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Blu-ray movies are region locked, but luckily, Canada/America and Japan share the same Blu-ray region, so they work.
I think Canada/American DVDs are locked to a separate region than Japan though. But who cares about DVD anymore?
BruceLeeRoy
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I'm not sure if this puts me on his level but that chump Noobsaur ever show his face around these parts?
polyh3dron
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BruceLeeRoy
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If I was patient enough I would have edited this but for now I think it will suffice.
Melchiah
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If I was patient enough I would have edited this but for now I think it will suffice.
It shows a lack of character, when people aren't willing to own up to their mistakes, and admit they were wrong.
BlackGoku03
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That's very impersonal. Have you found a job?
Zoe
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There may be some Japanese apps that are region blocked though.
Shadow Broker
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I know I predicted somewhere that I thought (hoped) it'll sell between 600,000 to 1,000,000.
I was obviously wrong.
Meh.. still pretty good numbers for two days.
I was obviously wrong.
Meh.. still pretty good numbers for two days.
HomerSimpson-Man
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You really thought those numbers?
I personally didn't simply because that meant they would really starve the rest of world to fill a massive shipment for PS2 like numbers (Japan just don't game like that anymore) and that would really hurt especially when someone like MS is gearing up a massive title like Titanfall when stock is still barebones of PS4 for retailers.
SolidSnakex
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You were putting it near the PS2's level (or above in the case of 1m), and it really has nowhere near the momentum that the PS2 had when it was released.
Manmademan
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600,000 to 1 million consoles in two days is absolute madness for japan. come on, now. The PS2 is an EXTREME outlier in jp console sales- largely because it was the cheapest DVD player available by far when it launched and even non gamers were rushing to get one.
Shadow Broker
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I'm obviously no expert in sales prediction field. Here was my thinking.
Japan is Sony's home court and if they can sale around a million units in other regions on launch day why not in Japan. I simply thought that my fellow Japanese gamers couldn't wait until that got their hands on the PS4.
What I didn't take into consideration
1) I'm not a Japanese expert
2) I'm no expert in predicting launch sales
3) No JRPG at launch
4) No weird sex/relationship building game
Edit: One last thing. This is a sales prediction thread. Why not be optimistic for something A LOT of us know little about.
I was wrong. The next time I predict something there will be a 98% chance of me being wrong.
I leave the facts and inside info to the members of GAF who actually know what they're talking about.
I got this promotion on Facebook to get a Playstation4, which I thought was funny
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rokkerkory
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I read somewhere in this thread someone said this is like 90% sold from available stock? If so, that's good?
DeliciousDoc
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Awesome, thanks
If he gets a CDN ps4, X and O will probably be inverted with no way of changing it. This means that he won't be able to play some games which are coded in a way that O is both confirm and cancel. Like the new nobunaga's ambition. For many other games, he will have to deal with the extra annoyance of buttons switching roles as the game goes back and forth between the OS like when saving or loading. (example: pressing 0 to save then having to press x to confirm)
He won't be able to do certain things on the ps4 (video store, some apps) as long as he is not physically in Japan as well but I guess he could use a VPN? I haven't had much luck with those.
SwiftDeath
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Well the original rumor from chris in the media creates thread was the total shipment for Japanese launch was 350,000 so selling 322,083 would be around a 92% sell through rate which would be great for a market than many predicted to be soft.
That being said I think Sony likely shipped more than 350K for launch but that's just me. Still not clear if that was just something chris heard or if he is sure on the 350K number
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Real talk, I don't think it will break half that in its lifetime. No big JRPG push, no Idolmaster exclusive, no hope.
Some Nobody
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I was hopeful for numbers like that too, though I was thinking first week not first two days. In all fairness if the Wii can do 50k a week, I can only imagine what would've happened if Sony had launched the PS4 in Japan during the holidays.
Now, having seen this thread, let me take a second to respond to people claiming "I doubt these numbers" or whatever: If the 350,000 shipped number is right, then even if Sony sold 322k, that's STILL nearly 28k on shelves. 28k is a fucking LOT. If you had them all in one place you'd be shocked by just how many there are. 28k is more than enough to find a number of stores who still have 10+ consoles just lying around in various areas, take a ton of pictures and suddenly "Oh wow the PS4 isn't selling well."
That doesn't make it true, that just means that's how the perception is being created. This is still like the third biggest launch ever--a close second to the Wii and a distant third to the PS2, granted. But it's hard to expect much more when most people just bought the system and went home to play Knack, presumably because nothing caught their eye.
The game isn't over yet.
Though it's a lot better than having hundreds of thousands of unsold Xbox One's after December. Sony made the right decision to not make as many PS4's in Japan, unlike Microsoft in which they made so many Xbox One consoles for America as well as everywhere else.