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[foxuzamaki]

Also idk if its just me, its a simple 4 screenshots but I think smash 4 looks especially good today graphically. I dont think we've seen battlefield wiiU with that much detail in the background with the clouds, Cant wait to see it in motion

 

[PadWarrior]

that nintendo 64 rainbow road updated gives me good feels

Indeed.

 

[ffdgh]

I can't sleep. MK8 has freaking broke me.

 

[SmithnCo]

It's also cool that Sakurai is talking about potential combos. A good change coming from Brawl.

 

[Tomohawk]

Looks like Pikachu recovers immediately if the move hits an opponent above him. Smart buff.

Damn, didnt notice that.

 

[Shun]

They'll get replaced with a multitude of thunder-wall spikes off stage. -__-

You'd have to time it pretty damn well if that were to work since it seems that it's a meteor smash and not a spike in that the opponent falls with the bolt rather than gets pushed down.

That or only the first few frames are spikes and you'd have to catch them high up for it.

If air dodges are limited to one again it also renders this pretty situational.

God I hope they remove unlimited air dodges...

 

[Dimitri LH]

.......that buff. Damnit. ;-;

Spoiler

Im happy for the people that use him though, even I admit thats a boss buff.

This and the amazing MK8 trailer made this a good night.

 

[Misuta]

Pikachu's

Spoiler

Indignation

Thunder has been buffed? Nice.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Jump over edges/holes + Thunder = lol

 

[SenorArdilla]

in both games, Thunder is used quite frequently to kill
in Brawl, the move is often completely safe

Yes. You get so much utility with a move with that has literally infinite vertically downward range.

 

[blamite]

Sounds like only the cloud has a meteor effect, not the bolt. Is that how everyone else is reading that? That's how I read it.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Pikachu will be banned from my household. Under pain of death.

PIKA
PIKA
PIKAAAA

 

[Jagsrock]

Well that's a little frightening, Dammit pickachu. Anyways back to drooling over mario kart 8.

 

[Kyzon]

You wont bev reliably meteor smashing enemies off stage since only the cloud has downward knockback. This is a good change

 

[Dimitri LH]

Pikachu's

Spoiler

Indignation

Thunder has been buffed? Nice.

Tales fan? Name your favorite Indignation. NOW! >_>

Spoiler

I also like you now.

They are soooo saving up many vets/new reps for the next direct, to show them all in one go. Like 3 vets and 1 new rep, maybe two......I can dream, and dream big I WILL!!

 

[Ivan 3414]

You wont bev reliably meteor smashing enemies off stage since only the cloud has downward knockback. This is a good change

Oh, I didn't totally read the description. If only the cloud meteor smashes, then I'm okay with this buff. I was thinking the bolt was a meteor smash, and I couldn't imagine that not being overpowered. <_<

 

[Anth0ny]

if only the cloud meteor smashes... then that's not much of a buff at all. assuming brawl hitstun (hell, assuming Melee hit stun), it seems really hard to pull such a maneuver off. seems like there's a very narrow range of percentages that could actually combo an up smash into the cloud spike.

i guess you can try to go for a raw ass thunder and try to hit it like that, but come on lol

 

[Jintor]

holy shit that mario kart

 

[theprodigy]

if only the cloud meteor smashes... then that's not much of a buff at all. assuming brawl hitstun (hell, assuming Melee hit stun), it seems really hard to pull such a maneuver off. seems like there's a very narrow range of percentages that could actually combo an up smash into the cloud spike.

i guess you can try to go for a raw ass thunder and try to hit it like that, but come on lol

then clearly.....
Smash 64 hitstun returns

 

[Freezie KO]

Fun update. I like seeing the gameplay tweaks the most.

 

[Toxi]

Wow, very surprising update. I hope we see more like.

Also, Yeezus, Bowser seems to get hurt a lot in the site's pics.

Pikachu shall be to smash 4, what meta knight was to brawl.

You mean it shall be to Smash 4 what it already was to Smash 64. ::::3

 

[soviet prince]

not really in to todays update maybe tomorrow

 

[Nibel]

Someone has to tell Sakurai about GIFs

 

[Toxi]

Someone has to tell Sakurai about GIFs

Nintendo of Japan is still getting used to this "Internet" business. The best thing they can claim is at least their website design is nowhere near as 90's as Retro Studios'.

not really in to todays update maybe tomorrow

You should change your avatar, it's above the image size limits.

 

[Jintor]

Someone has to tell Sakurai about GIFs

GIF of the day!

 

[Tyeforce]

Someone has to tell Sakurai about GIFs

Miiverse doesn't support GIFs.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Someone has to tell Sakurai about GIFs

I'd like it.

 

[ryanofcall]

Someone has to tell Sakurai about GIFs

Nintendo of Japan is still getting used to this "Internet" business. The best thing they can claim is at least their website design is nowhere near as 90's as Retro Studios'.

Well they made memes for SM3DW and DKTF pre-launch - so GIFs up next?

Spoiler

please.

 

[NotLiquid]

With Pikachu still having one of the best recoveries in the game I'm looking forward to seeing people use his thunder as a meteor smash while off-stage and in mid-air.

Fucker just got a lot more deadlier. How many characters have viable meteor smashes with such a huge range?

 

[Nibel]

Something like this Mr. Sakurai (I know he reads this thread)

 

[J@hranimo]

Hey SmashGaf, MK8 news overshadowed the update today but Pikachu getting a down-B meteor smash is really good. Will offer a different playstyle with him this time.

 

[Makai]

Nice to see Sakurai plays Brawl Minus.

 

[BigEvilTurtle]

THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING.

Pikachu was already an annoying fuck in Brawl, this is gonna be a hard pill to swallow for those that struggle against the rat. Pretty cool though, and Sakurai is saying it can be dodged. But is he implying that it can only be dodged at lower damage percentiles?

..is.. some form.. of.. Melee hit stun back? Brawl had very little hit stun, and even when you landed some hits they'd fly in directions that made chaining moves a bitch.

EDIT: Jesus, I just realized what this means for Pikachu's edge game. I wonder how much Thunder will affect his horizontal movement when used in mid-air. I hope most of the vets get cool tweaks like this, anyone keeping track of the buff and nerfs so far?

Hit-stun has been returned to its former glory, I think. This is very very good news. Combos out the ass now!

 

[icy_eagle]

Is this even neccessarily a buff? Thunder is often used to kill people off the top, this would presumably make that harder, no?

 

[BGBW]

Power of the cloud.

 

[Makai]

Is this even neccessarily a buff? Thunder is often used to kill people off the top, this would presumably make that harder, no?

Spikes. It's amazing in Brawl Minus.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Is this even neccessarily a buff? Thunder is often used to kill people off the top, this would presumably make that harder, no?

It's an assured meteor smash though. Jump to edge -> Thunder -> recover

 

[BlackJace]

Pikachu is ascending to the throne.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I'd forgotten how irritating a Thunder spamming Pikachu could be until a recent bout of hectic melee multiplayer, with that fresh in my mind I'm not sure how I feel about this update.

Okay it is kind of cool, I mean i've got time for meteor smashing clouds.

 

[RiggyRob]

I'd forgotten how irritating a Thunder spamming Pikachu could be until a recent bout of hectic melee multiplayer, with that fresh in my mind I'm not sure how I feel about this update.

Okay it is kind of cool, I mean i've got time for meteor smashing clouds.

This. A Meteor Smashing cloud directly above Pikachu seems a little OP to me, what other moves can Meteor Smash someone above your own character?

 

[Jintor]

Thunder always has major windup though.

 

[Xane]

Something like this Mr. Sakurai (I know he reads this thread)

9/10 would let it loop again. And again. And again.

 

[DaBoss]

Infinite air dodges are in SSB4.

So if Thunder strikes someone down, it doesn't make Pikachu have to wait for Thunder to reach the ground? I'm pretty sure Pikachu can't move when using Thunder till it reaches the same level as Pikachu.

 

[Nothing1016]

Infinite air dodges are in SSB4.

Whoa. When was that announced?

 

[Benzychenz]

Something like this Mr. Sakurai (I know he reads this thread)

Game runs at 4 fps confirmed.

 

[DaBoss]

Whoa. When was that announced?

The Developer Direct showed it in gameplay.

 

[Gardex]

For now, I consider this a nerf. Thunder has always been primarily an upward killer. Hitting your opponent down when they're so high up might lead to follow-ups(including pikachu's strong ground hitbox) if you don't DI it, but that's still not a guaranteed low-% kill like it used to be. It's still only the cloud though, so it won't change too much

 

[Ricky 7]

Why is Reuben Langdon saying he voiced Raiden in Super Smash Bros (right at the bottom of the page near the Raiden pic)? I can't remember Raiden being in Brawl?

 

[Zonic]

Why is Reuben Langdon saying he voiced Raiden in Super Smash Bros (right at the bottom of the page near the Raiden pic)? I can't remember Raiden being in Brawl?

"Raiden was always a character that I had wanted to play. I did end up playing him on Super Smash Bros; so I did end up playing him eventually."

I would assume he meant PS All-Stars.

Edit: Or maybe not. I only see him as the voice actor for Ken in SF4 & Dante from DMC. Nobody has him listed for PS All-Stars. Perhaps he's a new assist trophy, should Snake return....or maybe appears in codec conversations, which would be awesome if those happened to return along with Snake.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Holy smokes! My elecifying rat is getting buffed. I can't wait to annoying people with it. It might be fun!

The Developer Direct showed it in gameplay.

Basically it's not confirmed because Sakurai said that air dodge are subjected to be change. He said that when someone asked him about air dodge being melee's or brawl's. I wish that Sakurai would clarifying that soon in update.

Time for me to catching up with Mario Kart news and hype.