ColorblindJedi
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I think the issue is that so many games are cross gen that people don't see a huge reason to spend $400 on a new console.
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NPD Sales Results for April 2014 [Up2: XB1/360 hardware, PS4 #1/XB1 #2 best selling]
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I think the issue is that so many games are cross gen that people don't see a huge reason to spend $400 on a new console.
does this apply in general? Look at iphone software its like ios android and yes windows exists but its at 3% according to recent results ... kind of like the wii u :S
Again, how many of those consoles were severly supply constrained due to manufacturing issues during their first few months?
KillerMan91
Member
Eh. It's not crashing anywhere. Handheld market is crashing but home console market is just going back to normal after abnormally big last gen. Wii made the market look bigger than it's. Now without Wii like phenomenon we are going back to PS2 gen like numbers.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Yeah, I think the amount of cross-gen games this time around has both hurt and helped the PS4/XBone. Helped them in that they justified early adopters in buying on day one (because it's hard to justify buying a new system when all the games you want to play are on your old one,) but hurt them in that the less hardcore crowd has a hard time justifying upgrading when all the games they care about are still releasing on the consoles they already have.
Which potentially gets you in a chicken-and-egg scenario where publishers won't stop making cross-gen games because not enough people have upgraded and not enough people are upgrading because everything is still cross-gen. But as you say, the handful of games from developers that are already dropping last-gen will probably be enough.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
People said that 4 years ago and we still don't have tablets capable of playing PS2 games properly.
I'm not too shocked. After the initial buzz was over, people probably feel the sentiment that this is more of an extension of last gen. The games are the same, and you can play them on your last-gen systems. Nothing feels "next-gen" and when you have big budget games failing to hit 1080p/60fps (which is setting the bar low considering the 4K thing on the horizon), it's really underwhelming.
Let me know when I can play GTA on a tablet.
DR2K
Banned
We don't have high powered pcs that can play PS2 properly.
Yea but that's not good enough.
The 360 murdered the ps3 in the us and they both sold about the same worldwide.
Graphics Horse
Member
TODAY
Last generation was not very good for third party publishers, just to make that clear. The best you might say is "treading water."
Yes, I definitely agree with that, and also agree it's possible it might happen. We'll see.
Bluekaveli
Member
El oh El
PeregrinSe7en
Member
well tf certainly wasnt the second coming of the jesus for the x1, as was advertised.
the real jesus is shh at people who made those claims
eh well neither one has great results so nothing too scandalous. I think march gave us enough fodder. Think the June thread will be the telling one . (Post e3 xbox 399 etc)
MightyHedgehog
Member
Why are they tied to the PC graphics tech clock, though? Most of the market isn't interested in that relationship even if some hardcore folks are. Last I checked, consoles can still sell software despite being way behind the bleeding edge...an advantage to both the gamemaker and gameplayer who isn't caught up on that, especially something to consider when smaller developers will make the majority of games on these new consoles. Their requirements will most likely be more than met while their capability to max out and demand more of the host hardware will always be limited by choice or by lack of funding/time/manpower.
oh dude
nhlducks35
Member
I'm pretty sure games on tablets look a lot better than PS2 games, not to mention they run at a supremely higher resolution.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
And one that isn't hopefully completely damning. But very well could be. How far down the rabbit hole does it go? Are all late casual adopters finding their fix elsewhere? If so the damage could hit both MS and Sony too. The large bulk of sales for both came long after the enthusiast "core" market had bought in on the 360 and PS3.
Just like they would never give up a 30%+ performance advantage to Sony's PS4, right?
You might want to sit down...
Uh.. Like months ago.
Bluekaveli
Member
GTA 1, 2, 3, Vice City, and San Andreas.
Sooooo let me know when you come back from 2010
I'll take Sticker Star and Yoshi's New Island over nothing.
In a thread filled with mods, probably wasn't the smartest thing to say.
That's not what my argument is about though is it? It's good enough to ensure PS4 won't have an 80m lead like that guy suggested. Won't be anywhere near that.
GTA V, if that wasn't clear.
Well, i can play GTA III on my phone so...
I've got some bad news...
Bruce kind of coughed up the future a day or so ago. Sony winning isn't going to bring drama. XO over 100,000 isn't going to bring drama. Maybe next month with the news of the XO price drop? Stay tuned!
Yep! In the OP.
Bluekaveli
Member
maabus1999
Member
Smart phones are close to a mature market, but the rule of three does NOT mean equal market share. Normally 3 is under 10% market share, and windows fits that bill (and it is growing even though it is barely noticeable).
Suzushiiro
Banned
PS4 isn't really supply constrained anymore, if that's what you're getting at. If anything I'd say the fact that PS4 had a higher launch supply than any of those three is the contributor to the slowdown now- everyone who wanted one ASAP already has one, so what's left are the people waiting for more games (or a particular game) to come out and justify the purchase of a PS4/XBone.
KillerMan91
Member
Let me know when we actually get GTA games made for tablets instead of ancient old ports that already made their money decade ago on consoles.
postcyberpunk
Banned
This is the single best post I have ever seen on gaf.
Picking a fight with mods? Opiate needs a grammar checker. I know some people live and die by his posts, but there are some serious errors.
Good old albert.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
No, it wasn't.
And watch GTA V eventually get a iOS/Android port. Would not be surprised.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Theres an imminent push for 4K displays.
If titles are struggling to achieve 1080p 30fps, there is going to be demand for hardware that can display a 4k image natively.
EDIT:
Also if your phone using HDMI out is more impressive graphically than your console is, you're not buying your games on your console.
This video is clearly legitimate and you made him look very silly.
Angry Birds is already a bigger franchise.
Bluekaveli
Member
*looks at link* Lol #Dead