Sunset Overdrive looks like a game. The Order so far just seems like the only time you have full control of your character is when you're being led through smoke and mirrors toward the real experience, scripted events.
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Sony teasing The Order sneak peak at 1pm PT today.
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Regardless of how you feel about the game itself, I think everyone can at least agree that this game has had some of the worst marketing in recent memory. Someone should tweet Shu about how bad Twitch and YouTube are at showcasing current gen games. Also, RAD needs to know that best way to show a game like this is just put a 10 min gameplay video and let that do the talking, like how ND did with The Last of Us.
NullPointer
Member
Oh man, that footage.
I like the look and sound of the weapons at times, but man, there was nothing impressive otherwise, and plenty to groan at. From the other thread:
This looks like random gameplay footage you'd see on YouTube, not something specifically put out there to garner hype. No tension, no drama, no sense of scale to the encounter, and man that AI looks boring to fight.
I like the look and sound of the weapons at times, but man, there was nothing impressive otherwise, and plenty to groan at. From the other thread:
This looks like random gameplay footage you'd see on YouTube, not something specifically put out there to garner hype. No tension, no drama, no sense of scale to the encounter, and man that AI looks boring to fight.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Nope, they just have to look fun to look fun.
lol dude if you think the excitement in the footage we've seen of The Order is remotely comparable to the footage of Sunset Overdrive, you're insane. People are rightful to feel let down by this footage. It doesn't show much at all about the game it aspires to be and has been told to be. Sunset Overdrive footage did all that and more.
It didn't look that unique but it did look fun. Can't say the same about hiding behind a pillar and leaning out to shoot manikins. Sure it was a 2 minute clip, but they should have shown us something good about the game in that time.
And before you say "oh my god he doesn't like a sony game he must be an xbot" I have owned every Sony console and never owned and XBox.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Sure thing dude who gushes over Gears.
Shooting hundreds of enemies with weapons is more fun then shooting a few enemies with weapons.
I def. see your point. RAD should scrap this project and add about 200 more people to shoot, make the explosion slightly bigger and then ... then we got something.
Stripper13
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I thought it looked incredible. I'm ready for a new TPS and I'm kind of burnt out on the Gears universe. Loving the setting in the Order 1886.
That said, I thought the trailer was pretty good with the exception of the 'shoot one handed with pistol at cardboard pop-up enemies' type section that seems to show up in every one o of these games. I thought everything else looked really well done, in particular the huge recoil/spread on the guns. That, combined with the particle effects and environment are going to ensure every battle is fucking crazy.
That said, I thought the trailer was pretty good with the exception of the 'shoot one handed with pistol at cardboard pop-up enemies' type section that seems to show up in every one o of these games. I thought everything else looked really well done, in particular the huge recoil/spread on the guns. That, combined with the particle effects and environment are going to ensure every battle is fucking crazy.
They are obviously pushing the cinematic side, so why loose that feeling with that clunky UI? Maybe its just a placeholder but I certainly hope the option to turn it off is there.
Sword Of Doom
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So... 100-men strong Ready At Dawn is creating their first large game that will come out in the 1st year of nextgen in which they are trying to surpass cinematic action feel of Uncharted 2 [their words, not mine] by pitting 4 immortal Knights of the Round Table against ancient threat of supernatural werewolves who have manged to decimate humanity for more than 1000 years before modern science managed to reach Industrial Revolution which enabled humans to finally start fighting back. Using incredible visuals and glorious 4x MSAA, we will get to play through singleplayer-only, story and character focused game that will try to give us alternate history filled with horrors and suspense?
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...
But I must agree, the only really successful marketing move they had was initial E3 demo. Feb reveal was small, and this came unexpected and again showed not much new. They need to show more than shooting [which is not bad, but we want more], at least some quiet exploration sections if they don't want to spoil story too much.
I agree with this. My main concern is that the game will be too short
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Lines like 'We're sitting ducks out here'. You don't need that. All you need is someone shouting 'move ... move' and the camera showing us why. Another line such as 'Only a few feet to go.' I mean, Jesus Christ, why not break it down in the centimetres. Nobody would say that in a real situation. Just a camera shot from just inside the door they're heading for would suffice. Show, don't tell.
Hydrargyrus
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- "Generic buildings"
- Conversation during a gunfight
- Sony's first party games gameplay
- Conversation during a gunfight
- Sony's first party games gameplay
The game will almost certainly get a proper demo at E3.
I think the two videos so far haven't looked fun, but people have said people are 'writing it off', I'm certainly not even nearly at that point. They have plenty of time to impress me, and it's so pretty I'll almost certainly buy it regardless.
RAD didn't decide what footage was going to be shown. This is all Sony. The embargo ends Tuesday morning, so they were probably trying to build hype over the long weekend to remind people to tune in when new info becomes available. Hopefully we get more footage to set up the big E3 reveal.
geordiemp
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Dead rising 3 type game.
Crackdown type game
Uncharted type game
Gears type game.
COD Type game
Skyrim type game
All games fall into a genre and they all form a basic pattern - That's not to say I wont enjoy them but nothing I have seen for quite a while has got close to blowing socks.
Sunset overdrive looks like a cross between crackdown and DR3 - hardly socks blown stuff. Open world games like this can be fun to muck around but I get bored as its often too easy. The respawn looked the best bit...
The last game that blew my socks was Mass effect 3.
Leatherworkstation
Banned
Fun fact about 19th century London, pretty damn grey. Lots of smog, lots of soot, lots of fog off the Thames. 1886 is not long after the industrial revolution, everything was coal fired and you didn't have scrubbers on the chimneys, if you're expecting neon signs and glowsticks I don't know what to tell you. It also contrasts nicely with the more fantastical electrical arcs and fireballs.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I'm shocked people are surprised by this games gameplay to be honest. They said they are going for a " filmic " experience from minute 1. I mean hell the resolution itself draws upon film.
So what is with the shock that the game is cinematic? Thats what RAD is going for! lol.
So what is with the shock that the game is cinematic? Thats what RAD is going for! lol.
Coin Return
Loose Slot
Watched it again, the AI is astonishingly bad. I refuse to believe this footage is representative of final gameplay. If it is...yeesh.
dr_rus
Member
You do understand that Sunset Overdrive is basically Ratchet and Clank with M rating slapped on it? It's hardly any higher than going for the low bar and it is a TPS as well. Oops?
This.
One of the best ways to tell when someone has an agenda, is by watching their reaction when something undeniably good comes out.
This game is going to be a great game, but those crapping on it have an alternative agenda for the most part.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
So... 100-men strong Ready At Dawn is creating their first large game that will come out in the 1st year of nextgen in which they are trying to surpass cinematic action feel of Uncharted 2 [their words, not mine] by pitting 4 immortal Knights of the Round Table against ancient threat of supernatural werewolves who have manged to decimate humanity for more than 1000 years before modern science managed to reach Industrial Revolution which enabled humans to finally start fighting back. Using incredible visuals and glorious 4x MSAA, we will get to play through singleplayer-only, story and character focused game that will try to give us alternate history filled with horrors and suspense?
...
...
...
But I must agree, the only really successful marketing move they had was initial E3 demo. Feb reveal was small, and this came unexpected and again showed not much new. They need to show more than shooting [which is not bad, but we want more], at least some quiet exploration sections if they don't want to spoil story too much.
Sounds pretty generic to me.
Shit, that sounds way better >_>
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I don't know who determines when and where my socks are getting blown off, but Sunset Overdrive blew em off pretty good.
I do understand the hate, its called "threatened fanboys" concern
Schweinehund
Member
I'm still confused about this. Is the game rendering 1920x1080 between the bars, or is it cutting away lines of the pixels with the black bar, actually rendering at a lower resolution.
Just can't get the feeling of z-targeting out of my mind when I see it
.The PR for this game has been terrible. First the tiny bits of gameplay. And then this segment that the press has seen and talked about ages ago. That too out of the blue on twitch. Very, very weird. E3 better fix this.
The DC PR was abysmal until recently. Now they are absolutely killing it. Hope this game has a similar turn around post-E3. Right now, I'm just cautiously optimistic, more leaning towards the cautious.
Vire
Member
So... 100-men strong Ready At Dawn is creating their first large game that will come out in the 1st year of nextgen in which they are trying to surpass cinematic action feel of Uncharted 2 [their words, not mine] by pitting 4 immortal Knights of the Round Table against ancient threat of supernatural werewolves who have manged to decimate humanity for more than 1000 years before modern science managed to reach Industrial Revolution which enabled humans to finally start fighting back. Using incredible visuals and glorious 4x MSAA, we will get to play through singleplayer-only, story and character focused game that will try to give us alternate history filled with horrors and suspense?
...
...
...
But I must agree, the only really successful marketing move they had was initial E3 demo. Feb reveal was small, and this came unexpected and again showed not much new. They need to show more than shooting [which is not bad, but we want more], at least some quiet exploration sections if they don't want to spoil story too much.
That's a lot of words for just saying the graphics are good and that's why you are excited. I mean that's fine and all, but graphics aren't everything to everyone.
Cthulhu_Steev
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What a load of rubbish that dialogue is, there weren't any sitting ducks in Victorian England because they hadn't even been invented yet.
I love the setting of this game. Developers capture very well that steampunk/Victorian/vintage feel. Graphics look gorgeous. But yeah... Gameplay looks meh and looks like the shooting mechanics can get a bit frustrating at times but since this is a work in progress game I'm sure they would improve that.
You're quite right actually, I was also kinda hoping for some Victorian vernacular to sate my linguistic geekdom but then I suppose it wouldn't really go down well for most. The military language will be recognisable TPS commands that players will recognise I suppose.
PhantomFear
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I do. You're welcome.
breakfuss
Member
DANG, I wish I knew what the hell was going on. Can't watch the footage right now. I don't understand why some people are disappointed though... people were hyped up for this? Hell, I have no idea what the premise of this game is.
There's nothing wrong with the marketing. They released two teasers and we'll see a more full playthrough at E3. We just need to have some patience.
What's insane is that after one year and two reveals, we still don't have legit gunplay footage. Instead we have 90% cinematics and scripting, 10% you shooting at some decoys.
Yep, "cinematic feel" be damned. They need to lose the bars, and I find it hard to believe folks would willingly accept them if they didn't have to.
condompickle
Banned
yo rad, release a good video. and what's up with the letterbox?
vpance
Member
Let me help, RAD.
"we're right buggered!"
"release the hounds"
"it's time to piss off"
geordiemp
Member
Yay enjoy your game. I enjoyed crack in time and probably would enjoy sunset overdrive. I enjoyed most Insomiiac games, even Resistance iterations. way under rated developer.
No way am I buying a bone for it though, hardware disappoints to the point of gritting my teeth.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It is much better. If you don't know why then I know a few B-movies you might like.
wapplew
Member
I call this PR routine "Anti-Watch dogs"
TIMtationX
Member
It's amazing how some of you can tell how fun a game will be based on 3 minutes of footage.
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