BeatResetsTheWorld
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Yes, because after Zelda Nintendo will completely stop making games
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Germany:Demand for PS4 is x6 higher than for the second most popular console the WiiU
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Yes, because after Zelda Nintendo will completely stop making games
There aren't really coming any big titles (in terms of sales) to Wii U after Smash Bros though. At least none are currently announced for 2015.
Too bad, the Xbox One actually has the far more appealing exclusive titles between the twins, but to be honest after the RROD I can´t say I´m too bothered by its current sales. I´m also quite positively suprised by WiiUs performance, it sold quite decently despite all the badmouthing from nerds and the nerd-press.
Look at his tag.
Haunted
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As excited as WiiU fans should be about their console of choice being second place in continental Europe, I think people need to stop looking at this from a "WiiU is doing fine" angle and start seeing this as an "XB1 is truly fucked" story.
That just corroborates his post in this thread!
Zelda?
It's a matter of taste really. I would take TLOU and Infamous:SS and God of War any day over Halo and Titanfall.
As a matter of fact I never liked any xbox exclusive. Actually that's a lie, I FUCKING LOVED Super Meat Boy, and I also liked Alan Wake. But I played those on PC.
Tinfoilhatsron
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The face seals the deal for me.
KillerMan91
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I was talking about games with system selling power. Sure they might come up with some new ip that would sell systems but that is a lot easier said than done. Not to mention as long as it's Nintendo alone supporting the console I just don't personally believe it has any chance against Xbone even in Europe. Months and months of no bigger titles means that any momentum it could gather from Smash etc die before the next bigger title comes. With HD era Nitendo alone is not just able to support console with constant stream of titles (we have actually seen this already with WiiU and its sales being historically bad).
theprodigy
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Xbox One is doing better than OG Xbox, Wii U is doing worse than Gamecube
clearly, this means that Wii U will beat Xbox One in the end, because reasons
That hardly has any big effect on hardware sales these days anymore, especially when it comes at the end of the console's life. The best example for that is Skyward Sword. The people wanting the new Zelda probably already own the Wii U right now.
You are still thinking in the old term "only single games can be system sellers".Times have changed. I think that once a console library reaches a certain critical amount of great games, it truly shifts the overall sales baseline up and that's gonna be the case for Wii U beginning from Crirstmas 2014 through all of 2015, which by the way, will be a "constant release" shedule - at least Nintendo themselves said so (something along the lines of 1 major release every month in 2015).
The Abominable Snowman
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I honestly don't see how anyone could get that impression.
Wii U won't be on the market for 2 more years at most while the Xbox One will probably have a long life cycle, just slightly shorter than the console before it.
the last example of a mainline zelda coming out is skyward sword. We still haven't had a brand new zelda on the Wii U so I'm pretty sure it's going to do very well.
paradise_circus
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brand affinity is very big in germany though. besides, nintendo is still a big deal for parents to make a present for their kids.
And Germany is a hub for importers who are purchsing boxes for many surrounding "tier2" countries, including Nordic area.
Psycho_Mantis
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I still see XB1 outselling WiiU in the long run WW. I mean WiiU would be very lucky to reach GC numbers and I just don't see the XB1 failing so badly that it can't even reach 20 million.
Holidays will make things more apparent.
Holidays will make things more apparent.
CrazyArcadia
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we people in Germany have been reporting this for a while now, some thought was hyperbole but that's how it has always looked. Always
this was my local Saturn in Bremen a couple of weeks after Titanfall launched
it has sold some since but not that much.
I can support that claim. While our Saturn, MediaMarkt, Müller and so on don't stack as many consoles in general, PS4 seems to be in high demand, people go to the WiiU kiosks to play some Mario Kart (few months earlier, those WiiU stands were being ignored) and the space for Xbone games isn't bigger or better promoted in comparison to Nintendo's shelf space. I think we don't even have a Xbone stand to try it out in our local electronics store.
While I'm in my personal little country of anecdotal evidence, I might add that I currently personally know...
- more PC (or Mac) gamers than I can keep count of... (basically almost everyone I know who plays games, myself included)
- 3 people with PS4s and some who are on the edge or waiting (myself included. MGS5 or DoA 6 will do the trick
)- 4 people with WiiU (myself included) and one who's still on the edge
- 0 people with Xbone (with some having interest in 1, maybe 2 games but not enough to warrant a purchase)
(- bonus section: 6 people with a 3DS, 4 with a Vita)
additional info: I know some people with 360s, myself included, but way more who own PS3s. I guess maybe Germans just get most of the non-exclusive Xbox games on PC and don't care so much about Halo anymore. Dunno. The two people I know who are slightly interested in the Xbone are so mostly because of Forza. Doesn't help that many of the bestselling franchises of the Xbox-brand did not release in Germany because of violence (I remember the mass-importing of Gears of War 1
Dead Rising 1 (and 2) are forbidden to even buy or sell, Dead Rising 3 is on the German index meaning there can be no advertisement and it can not be sold openly), had terrible localisations which make 90s JRPG dubs seem oscar-worthy in comparison (especially looking at the Halo series here) or were only released cut and censored.GameAddict411
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the PS3 in its early days was doing very well in europe, even though it was doing badly in the US(not wii-u bad), but the XO is selling ok-ish in the US and bombing hard in europe and any other region. the wii-u is doing ok the past couple of months but it will never reach 1/4 what the wii did in its lifetime, mario kart 8 is what helping currently but it won't last for long.
while this might sound that i am jumping to conclusions but from the look of things, the PS2 era type of domination is happening again for the PS4. it may not sell the same amount of consoles but the ratio will be similar. is this going to be bad for the gaming industry? nah, this will only push nintendo and MS to put a lot more effort in their current consoles. make the competition a lot more fierce.
while this might sound that i am jumping to conclusions but from the look of things, the PS2 era type of domination is happening again for the PS4. it may not sell the same amount of consoles but the ratio will be similar. is this going to be bad for the gaming industry? nah, this will only push nintendo and MS to put a lot more effort in their current consoles. make the competition a lot more fierce.
Yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if 40.000 or so X1 from that German figure went abroad...
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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One thing I have never been able to understand about Germany.
It is said there is a undercurrent of anti-microsoft sentiment there, especially in regards to the Xbox brand.
but yet, they have a very strong PC gaming industry
I know not everyone is gaming on linux boxes over there.
It is said there is a undercurrent of anti-microsoft sentiment there, especially in regards to the Xbox brand.
but yet, they have a very strong PC gaming industry
I know not everyone is gaming on linux boxes over there.
JackTretton
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E3 2013: Never Forget
yiepekaiyei
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zelda, and X, and Star Fox don't matter sales wise, but sunset overdrive does. For Reasons! =D
ok...
ok...
Mostly because most games still come mainly for Windows. I assure you a lot of people hate Windows and complain constantly that they have to use it for gaming. In fact I know quite a few people who work on a Mac or Linux and have an extra PC for gaming.
theprodigy
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no, CoD, Destiny, FIFA, and the like do matter though, even if the majority of sales go to PS4 the leftovers sure aren't going to the Wii U
True working man's console, used to provide fun and rest.
protomouse
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This was Germany :
I know this happens all the time, yet it always perplexes me how insane people can be.
Muppet of a Man
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Here
I remember this .gif; it's still amazing.
yiepekaiyei
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but don't you have a better machine like ps4 to play those games? i'm pretty sure no one in germany will buy a xbone just for those games.
Hehe, that's true. I don't play games on PC because of this. I play older games on DosBox, though.
Maybe 30-40k. probably lower though.
Random_Stranger
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This isn't to surprising. EU is pure Sony country. Hell the Xbox one could be free and I still believe the PS4 would outsell it. Did the 360 even sell well in Germany? I pretty sure the PS3 destroyed it.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Well didn't 360 do decently in Germany last gen? Whereas Spain, France, Italy have always been in the Sony camp.
Yes, they go to PC.
It had 30% last gen thats not too bad i guess.
http://www.boerse-online.de/nachric...ef-„Wir-wollen-40-Prozent-Marktanteil“-759267
Coulomb_Barrier
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That was a french market as far as I renember.
This was Germany :
Just search for PS4 Media Markt on youtube, there are plenty of videos.
That gif can't be real.
Looks like a PR stunt.
No. it is real. People literally stormed the electronic stores at launch.
As far as I know they were head to head, with PS3 getting the edge last year when TLOU came out.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Yeah as opposed to what this gen: 5-10%?
Jimmyfenix
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Oh its real , It's DAMN Real!
Kssio_Aug
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I think its so sad that the Xone is not selling good worldwide. I mean, I completely understand the backlash against MS politics before E3/13, but after that theyre doing an amazing job with the console, with many big titles to come and an amzing S.O that each month becomes more functional! Theyre giving a super competent support to the platform!
I guess that this is probably because of the exclusives insecurity and the advantage that Sony aquired last year on E3.
I guess that this is probably because of the exclusives insecurity and the advantage that Sony aquired last year on E3.
Haunted
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Think of it this way: Microsoft does have a pretty negative reputation in Germany, but it's not so strong as to sway people from buying a superior product. Gaming on Mac and Linux just isn't viable in comparison, there aren't enough games, driver support, any number of reasons why Windows is the de facto standard.
With Sony and Nintendo putting out viable and competitive platforms - some might even argue superior ones based on power (PS4) and game library (WiiU), that's when consumers let the negative Microsoft rep factor in, that's when Microsoft gets fucked and that's what's happening to the XB1 right now.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Lol wtf.
That PS4 cardboard arch getting knocked over in comedy fashion makes it seem like too much to be true but people do go crazy.