Crimsonclaw111
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If QLOC is porting wouldn't they go the extra mile to unlock it, as they did with RE4?
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Bethesda is being extremely shady about The Evil Within's PC framerate
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ID Tech 5 is very particular about how it handles framerates. The console versions of Rage and Wolf both would dynamically lower the screen resolution to maintain framerates. It's no simple thing to unlock.
Yeah, it could well be that it would be easier to offer a 30 FPS mode and a separate 60 FPS mode than unlocking it completely.
Crimsonclaw111
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I'm okay with separate modes since that's what had to be done for RE4.
If they do, this will be another Shadow of Mordor 6GB DDR thread where people get all up in arms over something that turns out to be nothing, which is becoming a bit of a troubling trend with PC gamers.
Crimsonclaw111
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No comment, basically. But at least they're cool people over there.
Huge, also lol at the response.
Crimsonclaw111
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It isn't an ideal answer but at least they're feeling the pressure.Calling them out huh?
Edit: "working" on just being able to give technical info? Dude.....what, i really hate this industry.
It better be before the point of no return for pre-order refunds, otherwise it's still fucked.
Crimsonclaw111
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Yea. My money is floating in my Steam Wallet but I need closure.
With Idtech5 they might not have a choice (not a "business" decision, unless you stretch that to mean they decided to use that engine.) But previous Idtech5 gamed were 60 and not 30...so weird situation. Wish I was more well versed. Hopefully they share info soon.
You're a PC gamer up in arms about PC gamers being up in arms. That's kind of funny.
Calling them out huh?
Edit: "working" on just being able to give technical info? Dude.....what, i really hate this industry.
Well, if it's being handled by an external developer, they may not be able to say yes or no with certainty at this point. Perhaps it's a messy engine issue, and they are trying coming down to the wire, but can't guarantee anything yet.
Crimsonclaw111
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Console commands then, alright. Was that so damn hard to say?
"Shinji Mikami and the team at Tango designed The Evil Within to be played at 30fps and to utilize an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 for all platforms. The team has worked the last four years perfecting the game experience with these settings in mind. For PC players, we’ll provide debug commands on how you can alter the framerate and aspect ratio, but these commands and changes are not recommended or supported and we suggest everyone play the game as it was designed and intended for the best experience."
Quote from the Bethesda forum post up top. Hopefully this is actually true and doesn't break the game.
EDIT: Beaten
Quote from the Bethesda forum post up top. Hopefully this is actually true and doesn't break the game.
EDIT: Beaten
Snapshot King
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It has those absurd system requirements and it only runs at 30fps? How shit of a port is this?
That's just covering themselves as it was not designed that way, just like Dead Rising 3. Sounds like both engines were codaed for 30 with consoles in mind first, and unlocking it to 60 could cause unforeseen issues, so it's not "technically" supported.
Worked ok unlocked for DR3. We'll see here.
I blame using idTech 5. Framerate unlocking has always been dodgy, and them modifying it to work with 30FPS probably indicates that it will totally break the game logic if unlocked (basing this on previous idTech 5 games).
SlasherJPC
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Crimsonclaw111
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Snapshot King
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Yeah, I know, but the idea that you have to be running something like a 780 or 970/980 to play a pretty good looking game at 30fps is absurd. I just got my 970 and I'm left with the feeling that the ps4 version'll still run better.
You can remove the black borders, but apparently this can affect gameplay (certain elements not supposed to be visible, etc.)
Denton
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I am sorry but designing the game with black bars and 30fps "for the best experience" is just ludicrous.
I am glad they will at least give us a way to get around it, unofficially.
Still, it never should have been "designed" that way in the first place, especially not on idtech which has always been intended for constant 60fps. Carmack would be turning in his grave if he was dead (I am so glad he isn't).
I am glad they will at least give us a way to get around it, unofficially.
Still, it never should have been "designed" that way in the first place, especially not on idtech which has always been intended for constant 60fps. Carmack would be turning in his grave if he was dead (I am so glad he isn't).
Well that settles it then, another terrible PC port.
We'll have to wait and see. Typically, v-synced games on consoles have much stabler frame times so it might be smoother.
Someone from Bethesda did sort of confirm that 60 FPS might work, he just stated that it looks like the "soap opera" effect. Hoping that's just his perception and not the actual game being bugged to hell with unlocked FPS.
Denton
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Not really. More like "another terribly designed/programmed videogame in general".
"Can I run it on a card with less than 4 gigs of VRAM?
Yes. Please refer to the minimum requirements above. You wont be experiencing the game at 1080p and youll likely need to turn off some features, but you will still be able to have a great experience with the game."
wait, really? I'll have to play at 720 cause i have 2gb of vram? wtf
Yes. Please refer to the minimum requirements above. You wont be experiencing the game at 1080p and youll likely need to turn off some features, but you will still be able to have a great experience with the game."
wait, really? I'll have to play at 720 cause i have 2gb of vram? wtf
I'm hoping it was just some weird developer preference and unlocking the framerate doesn't affect anything.
True.
'But.. but you can use console commands guys!'. There's no guarantee it won't break the game.
swazzyswess
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IMO the soap opera effect isn't as ridiculous a statement as many people make it out to be. I actually had that thought when playing TLOU:R. For competitive games it doesn't matter, but I think for SP games the cinematic/filmic justification is reasonable.
Not that people shouldn't have the option to change the settings if that's not what they personally prefer, but I think the stance that the game is no longer worth playing because of it is a little extreme.
Not that people shouldn't have the option to change the settings if that's not what they personally prefer, but I think the stance that the game is no longer worth playing because of it is a little extreme.
I haven't heard anyone use that term since 2007, and it was almost always in relation to motion interpolation on on Blu-rays and HD DVDs.
Crimsonclaw111
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Did you preorder or plan on doing so? I'll bite now that they finally gave out important info.
Yea, it was an incredibly bizarre way of describing it. Like I said, hopefully it's just his perception and not the actual game running twice as fast.