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Playstation TV Thread: Vita Who?

Getting one since I sold the ps3 in my bedroom. Will be lovely for PS+ Vita games and my hoards of unplayed PSP and PS1 games.
 
two questions since i seem to be blind kinda here (ior didnt see the answer)

1) What kind of device would this be considered for the PSN account? (Would it be considered a hand held device?)

2) Could I get another vita Memory card and basically have the same account on two devices (vita and this)? This ties into question 1.
 
Day One on the PS TV camp especially with Gamestop paying $160 in store credit for my launch Vita until I saw the US Compatibility list - the list is so incomplete I`m better off holding back - such a tough call

How are you getting 160$ for just your launch Vita from Gamestop?
 
This thing is probably deader than disco the second it arrives since they're trying to break into a crowded streaming device market dominated by Roku, Amazon FireTV, AppleTV, etc.... I'm not sure the PS capability is enough to get a foot-hold. If Sony were smart enough to design this thing as being the ultimate streaming device, easy to root/hack, load XBMC on it easily, etc...then it might have a shot. But knowing Sony it'll be locked down with some proprietary bullshit that gimps its potential. So, taken in that context I doubt it'll end up as good of a streaming device as either my Roku 3s or my FireTV.

With that said, I might pick one up if I can get it at a discount. $100 for the bundle and I'd probably be sold just for the PS4 remote play.

Edit: No USB 3.0, no 1080P, no 5.1 sound...? Ouch. Not good.

You are not getting all that at $100. Come on now. And does the competition play the games this does and remote play your ps4?
 

CRA5H

Member
I honestly can't wait for next week. Playing my PS4 through my Vita at my girlfriend's place was next gen. But playing on the big screen with a dualshock 4 while at her place will be 10x better.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
I just imported a Vita TV, since I was able to get one for about ten bucks more than the U.S. PSTV is going to cost next week and American accounts now work. Here's my initial impressions.

-The Vita TV is a lot smaller than I expected it to be. Seriously, it's so tiny-- my phone is bigger than it is! Things also look a bit messy when you plug all the cables into it.

-More Vita games were supported by the Vita TV than I thought. All the games scaled pretty well, but the best-looking titles I tried were both Senran Kaguras, Muramasa Rebirth, Sonic Transformed, One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2, and Toukiden. The picture quality is overall fantastic and some multiplatform titles looked extremely close to their PS3 counterparts.

-Could not figure out how to use a PS4 controller with the Vita TV and had to use a PS3 controller to test remote play. The lack of a touch pad made it hard to get some stuff working. I'm sure there's something very basic that I'm missing.

-Tried both my Japanese and American accounts. Account switching is easier than on the Vita since the stupid introduction video does not play, so the process goes quicker.

-The American PSTV store is not up yet, but once you activate the system, all your DLC will work.

-On my American account, the Japanese Vita TV information screen still displayed, but everything else was in English. Am wondering if this may cause an issue with streaming apps and U.S.-specific media content.

-When I inserted a memory card, the Vita TV did not keep my folder settings, background images/themes, and like what happens when account switching on a Vita, some game icons disappeared and had to be "reloaded" by inserting the game cards. Fortunately, however, when I put the memory card back into my Vita, everything was intact, so the Vita and Vita TV save these profiles separately. This means if you have both, you'll just need to set everything up on the Vita TV one time only.

-Not sure about remote play yet. I tried this in the bedroom and the wifi signal is not as strong there. I do have a signal booster packed away and may set that up this weekend, to see if it improves things. I was able to play Sengoku Musou 4 for a bit. It looked decent, but was clearly lower resolution and that 30 FPS limit was much more noticeable on a larger screen. I think on competent connections, remote play will really depend on the game.

-It's really nice having full-screen PSP games. I may buy some more titles now, although Persona 3 Portable looked kind of ugly when enlarged that much.

-Have not had a chance to try PS1 games yet.

EDIT: Updated list of games I've tried-

Supported:

-Killzone Mercenary
-Sly Cooper Thieves In Time
-Akiba's Trip
-One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2
-Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends CE
-Shin Gundam Musou (J)
-Sengoku Musou 4 (J)
-Deception IV
-Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (J)
-Dekamori Senran Kagura (J)
-Dragon's Crown
-Chou Jigen Action Neptunia U (J)
-Bullet Girls (J)
-Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
-J-Stars Victory VS (J)
-Blazblue Chrono Phantasma
-Arcana Heart 3 Love Max!!!!! (J)
-Dead Or Alive 5 Plus
-Divekick
-Sonic Transformed
-Toukiden
-Muramasa Rebirth
-Ragnarok Odyssey Ace
-Magical Beat
-Spelunky
-TxK
-Jet Set Radio
-Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate (J)
-Retro City Rampage
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
-Soul Sacrifice Delta
-Final Fantasy X-2 HD
-Rogue Legacy
-Pix The Cat
-Malicious Rebirth
-Persona 4 The Golden
-Persona 3 Portable (PSP)
-ClaDun (PSP)

Not supported:

-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus 2
-Unit 13
-Borderlands 2
-Hotline Miami
-Phantom Breaker Battle Grounds
-Street Fighter X Tekken
-Rayman Legends
-Ridge Racer
-Hyper Dimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1
-Hot Shots Golf World Invitational
-Virtua Tennis 4
-Hatsune Miku Project Diva f
-Guacamelee
-Shinobido 2
-Uncharted Golden Abyss
-Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
-Mortal Kombat
-Injustice
-Gravity Rush
-ACIII Liberation
-Wipeout 2048
-Olli Olli
-Lumines Electronic Symphony
-Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles (PSP)
-Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker (PSP)

So, should you buy a Playstation TV? Depends. Are you big into Vita gaming? It's worth it if so. Are you interested in it for remote play? You may want to hold off for more impressions then. Even with a better connection, you are going to be playing PS4 games at a lower resolution and (depending on the game) half the frame rate. Even if you've tried remote play on a Vita, it's still a bit of a different experience as the flaws in the stream quality are much more apparent on a TV.
 
Day One on the PS TV camp especially with Gamestop paying $160 in store credit for my launch Vita until I saw the US Compatibility list - the list is so incomplete I`m better off holding back - such a tough call

Gamestop is giving 160$ for a launch vita? Hmmm might have to part ways with mine and get one of these.
 

cyberheater

PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Vita has a Netflix app, so I believe PS TV does as well.

The UK version of Vita absolutely does not have netflix. I wonder if Sony will finally get off their arse and sort it out for us in the UK. Fuckers.
 

Einhandr

Member
Damnit I'm so torn. I've got about $40 down on my PS TV and that deal to get $160 for your PSVita ends Sunday. All of the games I own are compatible except Ys, which I expect will be patched. I never play my Vita anywhere outside the home and Id much prefer to play my Vita games on a bigger screen with a proper controller. The only thing holding me back is the chance that a really awesome game comes out in the future that ends up not being compatible for PS TV.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
And here's how to use the DS4 with the Vita TV. Nice and easy; thanks RedSunGamer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97hZRUCAOvo

He then plays TxK on a U.S. account, which did not work for me, so I must have missed a game update. Thought I checked that...

The following games worked that I tried:

-Akiba's Trip
-Ragnarok Odyssey Ace

Huh, that's curious. Was it the US versions of those that you tried? Neither are on the compatibility list currently.

Yes, both are the U.S. versions. I figured something like this might happen and decided to test a bunch of games whether they were listed or not. Sent Sony feedback regarding that compatibility list, which I'm sure will do nothing, lol.

Those might require patches to work, which aren't available until the PS TV storefront is up, I imagine.

Hopefully that's it.
 

animax

Member
The only thing holding me back is the chance that a really awesome game comes out in the future that ends up not being compatible for PS TV.

I would have to imagine that sony will INSIST that developers incorporate a means for the game to be playable on PSTV as well as vita. Though in some cases I'm not sure how'd they'd get around it (e.g. camera usage).
 

Shinriji

Member
Yes, both are the U.S. versions. I figured something like this might happen and decided to test a bunch of games whether they were listed or not. Sent Sony feedback regarding that compatibility list, which I'm sure will do nothing, lol.

We should test every game in out collection to make a huge compatibility list as soon as the US PSTV is out. But I'm gonna buy one at black friday, so no day 1 for me.

Kinda hard to believe in the official US list.
 

flohen95

Member
So, just to make sure: If I were to order an Asian Vita TV, I could use it with a European/American account and play European/American games on it, right?

Edit: Also, what kind of power supply is it using? Would I have to use a step down converter or is it universal/external? If it is external and not universal, what are the specifications (voltage, current, polarization)?
 
Kinda hard to believe in the official US list.
The list is for games compatibility at launch, so they're not necessarily done updating all the games yet. That said, checking games manually is probably a good idea, as there will probably some supported games that slip though the cracks and don't get on the list.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
The Killzone patch apparently just went live and a Borderlands 2 patch is on the way, though they didn't specify PSTV compatibility.

Thanks for the heads-up; the Killzone Patch is up and the game looks really good on PSTV!
 

atomsk

Party Pooper
I've got amazon release day delivery so I'd hope they'd be shipping tomorrow, as Monday is a postal holiday and all that jazz.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
So I must have gone insane, because TxK and Jet Set Radio both work without a patch. Spelunky also works.

No patch up yet for Borderlands 2.

How do they handle the touch swipes in Mercenaries? Button press instead?

I tried the game using a PS3 controller, so I'm not sure if anything changes with the PS4 controller and its touch pad, but the controls have been fully modified to work with the PS3 controller, so you can use L2/R2, click the analog stick to run, and melee kills are handled by moving both analog sticks in the same directions that the arrows point in. The controls are great.

Killzone Mercenary looks really good blown-up to 720P. It's nice having the good Killzone game finally playable on TV!

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Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Have now tested all my Vita games, with the exception of Ragnarok Odyssey (have it digitally but it's been deleted since I have Ace) and Resistance (also deleted...does anyone even care anyway?)

Sly Cooper also got a patch and now works. Like Killzone and the Koei musou games, you get new control schemes that take full advantage of the PS3/PS4 controller, so it's just like playing the PS3 version.

Despite that tweet posted earlier from James Mielke, Lumines currently does not work. Was also surprised to find that Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 did not work. That's the only Koei game I tried that did not. Persona 4 looks kind of ugly blown-up. I guess it's expected since it's a PS2 game. And I tried one PS1 game, Dino Crisis 2. Looked hideous, LOL.

Here is my updated list:

Supported:

-Killzone Mercenary
-Sly Cooper Thieves In Time
-Akiba's Trip
-One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2
-Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends CE
-Shin Gundam Musou (J)
-Sengoku Musou 4 (J)
-Deception IV
-Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (J)
-Dekamori Senran Kagura (J)
-Dragon's Crown
-Chou Jigen Action Neptunia U (J)
-Bullet Girls (J)
-Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
-J-Stars Victory VS (J)
-Blazblue Chrono Phantasma
-Arcana Heart 3 Love Max!!!!! (J)
-Dead Or Alive 5 Plus
-Divekick
-Sonic Transformed
-Toukiden
-Muramasa Rebirth
-Ragnarok Odyssey Ace
-Magical Beat
-Spelunky
-TxK
-Jet Set Radio
-Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate (J)
-Retro City Rampage
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
-Soul Sacrifice Delta
-Final Fantasy X-2 HD
-Rogue Legacy
-Pix The Cat
-Malicious Rebirth
-Persona 4 The Golden
-Persona 3 Portable (PSP)
-ClaDun (PSP)

Not supported:

-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus 2
-Unit 13
-Borderlands 2
-Hotline Miami
-Phantom Breaker Battle Grounds
-Street Fighter X Tekken
-Rayman Legends
-Ridge Racer
-Hyper Dimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1
-Hot Shots Golf World Invitational
-Virtua Tennis 4
-Hatsune Miku Project Diva f
-Guacamelee
-Shinobido 2
-Uncharted Golden Abyss
-Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
-Mortal Kombat
-Injustice
-Gravity Rush
-ACIII Liberation
-Wipeout 2048
-Olli Olli
-Lumines Electronic Symphony
-Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles (PSP)
-Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker (PSP)
 

Magwik

Banned
Not supported:


-Borderlands 2
-Hotline Miami
-Street Fighter X Tekken
-Rayman Legends
-Hot Shots Golf World Invitational
-Virtua Tennis 4
-Guacamelee
-Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
-Mortal Kombat
-Injustice
-ACIII Liberation
-Olli Olli)
-Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker (PSP)

It's really weird because afaik these all have PS3/PS4 counterparts so patching in the controls shouldn't be too difficult/
 

baekshi

Banned
It's really weird because afaik these all have PS3/PS4 counterparts so patching in the controls shouldn't be too difficult/

According to sony, some of these work.

Let's see how true is that.


I thought all PSP were suppose to work at least that were on Vita Store, what's going on
 

Tohsaka

Member
Not supported:


-Hyper Dimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1

I don't know why that game wouldn't work by default, I don't remember using the touch controls at all when I played through it recently. Hopefully it gets patched, I want to go back and get the platinum trophy eventually.
 

Darth_Caedus

No longer canonical
I don't know why that game wouldn't work by default, I don't remember using the touch controls at all when I played through it recently. Hopefully it gets patched, I want to go back and get the platinum trophy eventually.
It sucks too because I wanted a Playstation tv for that reason, to get into this series, but it's not supported. I just hope the update for it is quick to release.
 
I read that swapping mem cards in the Vita messes up your bubbles. What if you just take it out to use in the VTV and then put the same card back in the Vita without a different one in between, do the bubbles still mess up?
 

fernoca

Member
Quoting myself...
Hoping that Amazon ships mine fast, so I can get it by next Saturday at least.

Yay!
Turns out that Amazon changed their policies regarding shipping videogames to Puerto Rico....and just cancelled the order of the PlayStation TV bundle I placed on June.

No notification aside the cancellation email and support just was like "sorry, can't ship games to PR anymore".


It's really weird because afaik these all have PS3/PS4 counterparts so patching in the controls shouldn't be too difficult/

In Mortal Kombat they added mini-games and extra modes that used the touch screen, sensors, etc.
 

lord pie

Member
How's the 1080i output? In theory it should upscale 960×544 much better than 720p (4x vita's res being 1920×1088 after all..).

Wouldn't be surprised if it just outputs 1920×540 as interlaced, cutting 2 rows of pixels from the top/bottom.
 
It sucks too because I wanted a Playstation tv for that reason, to get into this series, but it's not supported. I just hope the update for it is quick to release.

You might want to contact Idea Factory International then, I asked them a while ago and they said it won't be compatible. It sucks because the JP and Asian versions work fine with the Vita TV, but unless more people make noise about wanting the US/EU versions to work it probably won't happen.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Thanks for testing all this out, Lyte Edge. Great info.

I love testing out stuff like this. Was fun checking everything...20 years ago I had a blast doing the same thing with the Super Gameboy on the SNES, although with that everything worked, lol.

It's really weird because afaik these all have PS3/PS4 counterparts so patching in the controls shouldn't be too difficult/

With some of them I wonder if they purposefully left out PSTV support because they'd rather have people purchase the games twice, but since a few are cross-buy that makes no sense.

The Vita TV has been a total bomb in Japan. Maybe if it does better here, Sony will try to get more games patched for support.

According to sony, some of these work.

Let's see how true is that.

Am hoping that it just means more patches will be released on Tuesday.

I thought all PSP were suppose to work at least that were on Vita Store, what's going on

IIRC Castlevania and Peacewalker are two games that work on Vita, but do not show up on the Vita store for purchase and have to be transferred from a PS3. That could explain why. But you'd think all PSP games would just work with no problem. I also tried two games I was able to download when Sony allowed everything through -Phantasy Star Portable 2 and Thexder Neo- and they unsurprisingly did not work either.

I don't know why that game wouldn't work by default, I don't remember using the touch controls at all when I played through it recently. Hopefully it gets patched, I want to go back and get the platinum trophy eventually.

I hope they patch it; Neptunia Re;Birth is my current Vita game of choice and I was pretty disappointed that I would not be able to play it on TV.

How's the 1080i output? In theory it should upscale 960×544 much better than 720p (4x vita's res being 1920×1088 after all..).

Wouldn't be surprised if it just outputs 1920×540 as interlaced, cutting 2 rows of pixels from the top/bottom.

I didn't see much of a difference between 720P and 1080i. Need to get an expert to check this!
 
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