Phreakuency
Banned
Crossed the line a few times now. Just outright greedy.
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Mighty No. 9 DLC announced.
- Thread starter rockman zx
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This!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Huh? Has the game came out yet?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I'd never thought Kamiya would be so on point.
Ah. Did they have any perks that involved special/limited editions of the game? If so, what about those? Did they get physical copies?
Chobel
Member
You can download physical copies now? The more you know.
MacH1nation
Member
Why do people get bent out of shape that they keep asking for money? That's how they did it the first time around, and people gave what they wanted. If they ask again, people can decide for themselves if they want to give again. There shouldn't be any hard feelings. No one HAS to fund them.
The goal from the outset was to fund everything about this game with crowdfunding. They are trying out a new no publisher model for development. Clearly the model is bust as people cant tolerate feeling as though they're obliged to keep handing out money in order to get the full game. Sure having MN9 to play before asking for dlc money would be nice, but development doesn't work that way, they need to do the development on the dlc along with the rest, or no dlc and they move onto another project.
The goal from the outset was to fund everything about this game with crowdfunding. They are trying out a new no publisher model for development. Clearly the model is bust as people cant tolerate feeling as though they're obliged to keep handing out money in order to get the full game. Sure having MN9 to play before asking for dlc money would be nice, but development doesn't work that way, they need to do the development on the dlc along with the rest, or no dlc and they move onto another project.
OmegaDL50
Member
What was the statement?
Edit: Nvm found it. Shots fired (over 2 years ago)
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/249735186936369153
Beer Monkey
Member
The way this game is being merchandised by perpetual pre-release crowdfunding is gross.
Don't understand why this is a problem. They've just added another stretch goal to their Kickstarter campaign, while offering more free content for backers.
Lots of successful Kickstarter campaigns end up opening their own website and taking additional funding for those who missed the Kickstarter.
Lots of successful Kickstarter campaigns end up opening their own website and taking additional funding for those who missed the Kickstarter.
Because its happened multiple times with this game despite them passing their goal by a pretty wide margin. They pretty much just keep coming up with new ideas after the fact and trying to squeeze more out of their supporters and make them double dip.
ShinobiFist
Banned
C'mon, you knew this was going to happen guys. This is Kenji after all.
Oni Link 666
Member
So Getter.
-Plasma Reus-
Service guarantees member status
You pay to kickstart the project, you also have to pay to purchase the game..now they want you to pay to fund DLC, which you will probably also have to pay for?
Why should anyone kickstart a game/movie/anything else they don't get a copy of for free is beyond me. You think Yoshida needs to pay for his copy of Playstation games he's helped publish?
Crowdfunding needs to be killed because there is no point to it. These people talk about creativity and whatnot, but the truth is different.
Why should anyone kickstart a game/movie/anything else they don't get a copy of for free is beyond me. You think Yoshida needs to pay for his copy of Playstation games he's helped publish?
Crowdfunding needs to be killed because there is no point to it. These people talk about creativity and whatnot, but the truth is different.
But why is this a problem? You don't have to back them if you don't want to. People who already backed them get the content for free if it gets funded. It's not like they're making original backers pay more for extra content.
I could understand the complaints if they were behind schedule and hadn't delivered on promises, but as far as I'm aware, that's not the case.
Candescence
Member
I love how everyone is getting their panties in a twist despite all they're doing is announcing a stretch goal that involves post-release content that backers will inevitably get for free. This is not the only game to still have crowdfunding constantly open along with stretch goals, just look at Star Citizens, Shantae, Deliverance, etc.
Seriously, continuous crowdfunding isn't uncommon for games that have already hit their goal - hell, why should any crowdfunded game lock out people who want to pay just because the initial campaign has already passed? It's not like they're not gonna finish the game, in fact, it seems like they're well on-track to doing so, what with the regular stage updates to the beta.
Seriously, continuous crowdfunding isn't uncommon for games that have already hit their goal - hell, why should any crowdfunded game lock out people who want to pay just because the initial campaign has already passed? It's not like they're not gonna finish the game, in fact, it seems like they're well on-track to doing so, what with the regular stage updates to the beta.
fredrancour
Member
Yeah, this doesn't actually feel that slimy to me. It's an additional stretch goal added way after the fact. If the "all backers get it once the goal is met" thing didn't exist, I'd be pretty grossed out.
Granted, in my mind this is being achieved through additional customers signing up late, not more money coming from the same people. Is that what "slacker backers" means, or is this money expected to come entirely through people revising pledges upwards?
rockman zx
Member
No they don't, if you are a backer, you get this for free, they rely on slacker backers to get this done, if you are a slacker backer, for $23 you will get the game, the DLC and help this DLC to be made (as it happen before with the VA).
They are not asking the backers to give them more money.
LOL Dagger.
Terrible_Majesty
Member
vote with your wallets. im a backer. so far asg was an above average game, havent beat it yet. im hopeful for mn9
DarkLordMalik
Member
Kamiya is always on point.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Also I am really iffed on the concept and design of the character
I mean, getter robo jokes aside, it really feels like a retread on protoman and zero. Compare to what Kamiya does - he always uses the "rival doppleganger" in some of his games but they're still distinct from each other.
I mean, getter robo jokes aside, it really feels like a retread on protoman and zero. Compare to what Kamiya does - he always uses the "rival doppleganger" in some of his games but they're still distinct from each other.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
That design is such a blatant design of self-plagiarism (it's Zero and Bass) that it reeks. Disappointed.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
Would be buyers: PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
Ban Puncher
Member
Someone with much more talent than I should shop Inafunes face onto MM and Pharaoh Mans arm canon into a wallet.
This feels bad on a number of levels. First, it's crowd funding for Day One DLC, which is pretty unethical If you ask me. If the game was fully out by now it'd be understandable even if it was still going to be DLC that non-backers had to pay for, but it's not so it's quite inexcusable. Secondly, Zero was originally put in MMX as a means to fit the original main character's design in the game once Capcom forced Inafune to put (a version of) Mega Man in the starring role, so there is a good reason for him to be there, and Bass originally had a whole game's story arc dedicated to him and his emerging rivalry with Mega Man - this isn't really fitting in as anything except a cynical Edgy Antihero/Rival trope, so it has much less reason to be in there as a narrative since it's DLC and not being integrated into the game (despite being worked on before the main game is finished!). Thirdly, I would mind less if Comcept hadn't tried their hardest to turn Mighty No. 9 into a franchise before the damn game is even out yet, but with the multiple cameos and a TV show being worked on too... I really feel like their priorities aren't in any of the right places.
Needless to say, I won't be funding this DLC.
Needless to say, I won't be funding this DLC.
What was the statement?
Edit: Nvm found it. Shots fired (over 2 years ago)
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/249735186936369153
That's not even a shot. It's the truth.
Conrad Link
Member
This is one of the few Kickstarter things I've actually ever funded and like, I feel its pretty stupid to be campaigning now for DLC shit when the actual game isn't even out yet. :|
How bout spending that time doubling your efforts on the actual game and getting that done before thinking about extra stuff lol.
Seriously. :|
How bout spending that time doubling your efforts on the actual game and getting that done before thinking about extra stuff lol.
Seriously. :|
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Keiji is taking Megaman fans to the cleaners.
Disclosure: I worked on the original MN9 Kickstarter campaign.
FWIW, it's not Day One DLC (the full update spells this out really clearly a couple places, though if you just saw the OT I can see how you might think this). And it's basically saying that all pre-order money (slacker backers) from this point through the end of the year will go towards making this DLC, if they get enough to make it -- and if they do, the 80K backers who already funded the main game will get it for free.
They are showing their costs (which are over what they are saying they need in pre-order money) and seemingly being totally open about the entire process -- I'm not sure how this can be construed as unethical just because the game isn't out yet, unless you think taking money for pre-orders is unethical.
I do know some people personally don't like hearing about DLC before a game is out yet, for any reason, which I can certainly understand. The update makes it sound like (and I know from working on other games) they are probably talking about it now cause of how some parts of game dev finish before others.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
WTF the game isn't even out yet and lmao that character design can't be real. Come on.
SuperAndroid17
Member
TV-shows, toys, DLCs before the game is even out.
What is this bullshit?
What is this bullshit?
I don't know where you're getting your information, but you're significantly misinformed.
Candescence
Member
Pretty much this. This is just an extra thing that the character designers are fooling around with because they've finished with everything else they can do right now. They probably won't even start working on the DLC until the game is suitably finished enough that there's enough manpower available to start working on it while the rest of the team polishes things up. If anyone actually thinks this will somehow take priority over the main game content, they're misinformed and/or deluded.
Seriously, everyone is making mountains out of molehills. Come on, now.
Good take on it, with the bold being my opinion exactly.
Kamiya was so right about this guy. Not looking forward to this game at all any more, and that's a damn shame. Bitter taste in my mouth.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Jeez, that's one way how not to handle this stuff. I'd be okay with DLC for the game but....not before the game is out. And not via crowdfunding.
Damn, this is almost as bad as the last time they wanted money for the voice acting in game.
Damn, this is almost as bad as the last time they wanted money for the voice acting in game.
IsntChrisL
Member
This is getting egregious.
I think its okay if its for a game already out, like Skullgirls DLC characters crowdfunding and Awesomenauts expansion.