Funky Papa
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Reddit analyses protein powder; advertised protein percentage vs actual protein
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Get me a maid.
Yeah because cooking food in comparison to making a protein shake is so much harder
brb, cant be arsed cooking food but can be arsed to work out.
people who have this lazy mentality will always be fat slobs.
It was the ads that always made me skeptical about how bogus the supplement industry is. I tried a bunch of different stuff, but would always focus on real food.
Psychotext
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lmfao. Not eating 2,000kcal is apparently taking a placebo.
Did they give the other group chalk to eat instead of calories? I think you mean control, you massive asshats.
I'd actually love to be proven wrong on that and find that these people were eating some sort of fakery rather than real calories.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Hey smartass, I cook most of my food, but I can still find value in shakes and how convenient they are. Not every day I can be arsed to grill chicken (which usually tastes like shit from day to day) or make an egg whites omelette. Good isolates are also excellent for cutting and eating copious/frequent amounts of food may upset more than one stomach, not to mention drowsiness.
The fat slobs remark just goes on to show how off base you are.
Double Rich Chocolate
Psychotext
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There's really no point in making egg white omelettes unless you're a bit broken and prefer them. That particular bit of nutritional science has long since hit the wall.... thank god (I used to do the same, once upon a time).
Oh, and if your chicken tastes like shit you're doing it wrong
(Breasts for life!)
Funky Papa
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My chicken is fine. I just dislike how its flavour changes over time, specially if reheated. Yuk. I mean, I eat chicken almost on a daily basis these days, but the taste is so nasty if I make several rations and eat them through the week. It's fresh or nothing for me.
I also love egg white omelettes. What can I say.
Edit: There's an exception, and that is rotisserie chicken. Flavour keeps consistent for 48 hours and I can use the leftovers to make some badass chicken soup. Day old grilled chicken tastes just nasty, IMO. Same with non-stewed beef.
TheWarrior
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Ziplock freezer bags will work wonders for grilled chicken. I grill 8 lbs a week, cover with foil and let it sit for about an hour, portion it out and freeze it, then defrost in the fridge the night before. Just letting grilled chicken sit in the fridge and reheating 3 days later, it will taste like shit. gotta freeze it after its been freshly cooked.
Funky Papa
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I may have to try that then.
Psychotext
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Yup, all my chicken is either fresh or cooked, frozen and reheated. Nice.
Phatosaurus
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I actually work for MyProtein and I can go through the details of what we put in our products.
The standard impact whey concentrate that we sell is literally just whey protein concentrate that we get from a supplier and a concentrated powdered flavour mixed together.
The banana powdered flavour is extremely strong so we don't add as much of that as we do with the other flavours, so that has a higher protein content than other flavours.
We obviously don't use powdered flavour in the unflavoured IWC so that has an even higher protein content than the flavoured varieties.
Every single batch is quality checked (including a taste test) to ensure it meets our "gold standard".
It's the same deal with the impact whey isolate that we sell.
Since we're based in the UK, we have to abide by the UK FSA (along with many other agencies).
Whey protein is considered a food here, not a supplement so we do keep a high standard in our production.
The standard impact whey concentrate that we sell is literally just whey protein concentrate that we get from a supplier and a concentrated powdered flavour mixed together.
The banana powdered flavour is extremely strong so we don't add as much of that as we do with the other flavours, so that has a higher protein content than other flavours.
We obviously don't use powdered flavour in the unflavoured IWC so that has an even higher protein content than the flavoured varieties.
Every single batch is quality checked (including a taste test) to ensure it meets our "gold standard".
It's the same deal with the impact whey isolate that we sell.
Since we're based in the UK, we have to abide by the UK FSA (along with many other agencies).
Whey protein is considered a food here, not a supplement so we do keep a high standard in our production.
Perhaps I'll try a different protein powder once my 5lb bag of Muscle Tech runs out, but my bench max has gone up 60 pounds in the past 10 months using no other supplements besides fish oil and a multivitamin
Psychotext
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I spend way too much money with you guys.
Also, what the hell happened to your muffins? You only seem to sell the muffin mix now, but the pre-made muffins were delicious.
TheWarrior
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Going to make some assumptions here but it was most likely proper diet and training that contributed to that.
Definitely not a proper diet lol
I was previously into weight lifting in high school and my bench max then was 255. I stopped working out all together for 6 years and over the course of that put on 40 pounds (230). When I started again 10 months ago, my max was an embarrassing 185. I'm not at 245, which is still disappointing since my 18 year old self was stronger than I am now at 25.
Thug Waffle
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yeah i only ever bothered with optimum nutrition
all the other stuff seemed fluffed like crazy
yeah sorry if I directed my opinion at you, its nothing personal, its more of a general thought.
and yeah protein shakes can be useful.
You just dont need them or are they optimal.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
That I can agree with.
Also, holy shit, some guys at SomethingAwful and Reddit made some HARDCORE LAB BROSCIENCE and detective work with American Whey's shitass powders and results were amazing. The company replied that they tested their powders using "certified professionals in a certified laboratory", but apparently said laboratory was nothing but a fake company created by the manufacturer so they could claim a % of purity.
Insanity.
Also, holy shit, some guys at SomethingAwful and Reddit made some HARDCORE LAB BROSCIENCE and detective work with American Whey's shitass powders and results were amazing. The company replied that they tested their powders using "certified professionals in a certified laboratory", but apparently said laboratory was nothing but a fake company created by the manufacturer so they could claim a % of purity.
Insanity.
entremet
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Whey protein is food.
Honestly, although I prefer meat, fish and poultry, whey is great if you're on a budget. You save way more money over animal protein.
Psychotext
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Awesome.
TheWarrior
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Well still awesome for you for working out for 10 months to get yourself fit, even if you don't eat right, you're at least doing something positive for yourself. I'm 35 and also found myself in a rut in my early 20's, wasn't until I got older that I started to care more about my health.
lmfao. Not eating 2,000kcal is apparently taking a placebo.
Did they give the other group chalk to eat instead of calories? I think you mean control, you massive asshats.
I'd actually love to be proven wrong on that and find that these people were eating some sort of fakery rather than real calories.
It sounds like they're citing some study that has nothing to do with Mass Impact. In the study people that ate more gained more muscle. Then Mass Impact is saying eating Mass Impact is eating more, so more muscle.
Phatosaurus
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I spend way too much money with you guys.
Also, what the hell happened to your muffins? You only seem to sell the muffin mix now, but the pre-made muffins were delicious.
I've no idea. We normally get the premade muffins/bars/cookies from a supplier and then dispatch them out. A few months back we did get a dodgy batch of toffee muffins from our supplier, so maybe we stopped selling them after that.
Lovely Salsa
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whats wrong with protein shake? its still protein
doesn't matter if you get it from meat or shake
Do you even lift?
ThreePiMatt
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I primarily have taken ON, not necessarily because of them being legit (though it helps), but because I'm a baby and chocolate/vanilla/etc all make me gag. ON has a Tropical Punch and Strawberry flavor that I like quite a bit.
Nah, the extra body weight doesn't mesh with the things I enjoy doing.
Apologies, didn't realise this was a body-building thread. Thought it was about general nutrition.
As you were.
Psychotext
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That's exactly it, but it was more that "not eating" = "placebo". The base idea is laughable enough as it was though, I should have left it alone.
IrishNinja
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ouch, might gotta switch up this syntha-6
Krauser Kat
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the fact that all of vegan proteins are so far down the list makes me super sad. back to just snacking on soybeans and peanutbutter bagels.
TheWarrior
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This is what I don't like about this study. They lump everything that contains protein together.
Synta-6 looks to be marketed more as an MRP than a protein supplement. If people want pure protein, it's better to look one of the isolates, NOW ISO, Dymatize ISO, ON Hydro
Let's break this down a little
Synta-6 serving size is advertised as 47 grams
Label indicates 6 grams of fat, 22 grams of protein and 15 grams of carbs total of 43 grams of macros, which leaves 4 grams of filler, most likely the cocoa powder, artificial sweeteners and lechitin.
Checking the labdoor website, they measured 20.4 grams of protein per serving, compared to 22 grams advertised, that's pretty good.
The data they present can give you a lot of information, but I am afraid it's being interpreted the wrong way.
I use Muscleform AVI-Pro 94, seems legit, its the purest powder I have seen consistency wise. (but it is also expensive)
PER 100g (unflavored)
Energy 1590kj/374kcal
Protein 94g
Fat 0.2g
Saturates 0.1g
Carbohydrate 1g
Sugars 1g
Salt 0.7g
Its good if you are trying to build muscle while loosing weight. Sometimes its not the best supplement to use, only if you already have some fat deposits the body can "eat" from. But if you are already ripped your body actually need some of the shit that are in the less pure powders..... Beeefcake!!
PER 100g (unflavored)
Energy 1590kj/374kcal
Protein 94g
Fat 0.2g
Saturates 0.1g
Carbohydrate 1g
Sugars 1g
Salt 0.7g
Its good if you are trying to build muscle while loosing weight. Sometimes its not the best supplement to use, only if you already have some fat deposits the body can "eat" from. But if you are already ripped your body actually need some of the shit that are in the less pure powders..... Beeefcake!!
IrishNinja
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...huh. might keep the syntha then, haha...for real, it's been good by me for years now
God Dayumm
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That is a looot of meat. I eat a pound of chicken on off-days and that plus cottage cheese are still not enough to fill my protein macros. So I have to drink 1-2 scoops of protein every day. Would cook more but cleaning dishes already takes too much time from me
Glass Rebel
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Might have to take a closer look at this. I currently use the MP Combat Powder which is pretty much in the middle but it has given me decent results and I like that it's extremely dissoluble. Depending on the price/protein I might switch though.
The MyProtein whey is sourced from Glanbia, correct? Same company that own ON..
Fried Food
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Glad to see the general consensus on ON gold standard held true *stares lovingly at pile of empty canisters*
Psychotext
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Interesting, thanks for the info.
Phatosaurus
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We have multiple suppliers. Most of it comes from Germany, but we have at least 4 different suppliers. I can't think of the names unfortunately. Next time I'm in work I'll take a note of them.
TheWarrior
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Don't get me wrong. It's a good amount of work but its easy to stick to a diet when you have all your meals ready to go.
If I have protein its first thing in the morning or some casein before bed.
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Sure, but it's also much quicker to drink a protein shake than to eat an extra 1 lb chicken breast, and I would argue tastier as well. Depending on brand for chicken and whey, could be cheaper too.
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