Syphon Filter
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Where did i say it was in H5? I was talking about H4.
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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)
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Where did i say it was in H5? I was talking about H4.
Well let them make the game they wanna make. If you prefer you can buy something else lol.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
Long time Halo fan, don't mind sprint. ADS is a much bigger gameplay tweak that I think will fundamentally changed how the game feels, but sprint not so much. I'm all for adding sprint. Playing prior Halo's feels like trudging through molasses after Halo 4. Sprint, map based weapon spawns (no load outs), and I'm good.
MisterAnderson
Member
If the ADS doesn't impede mobility or add any accuracy, then it's still an arena shooter as far as I'm concerned. Besides, ADS already exists in the series in the form of the Halo 1 pistol, Battle Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Carbine...etc. etc.
Twin Tails
Member
no, we can voice our opinion and change it. That's the reason for the beta.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Love this post. Put it much better than I did.
No, you didn't mention Halo 4. And since this thread is about Halo 5 people assumed you talk about Halo 5. But I get you now. Still, I don't really see the argument when it's already clear that Halo 5 won't have any of these ... Also Sprint was added n Reach by the way - not 4.
Monocle
Member
This. For fuck's sake, this.
Dr Amazon MD
Member
They did it's called Halo 4. Now they said they want to make the game we want, and go back to it's roots.
BuggeryBugz
Member
Imagine what the reveal of the beta MP thread is going to be like.
Anyway, I'll wait for that before I offer my opinion. Not sure if I'll mind if sprint is in or not.
That Stone Dude
Neo Member
Mostly campaign. I tried the multi for 3, Reach, and 4 but never lasted for more than a week. Just never really clicked for me the way CoD does.
I thought Halo 4 was okay. I didn't care for the Prometheans very much and didn't find any of the missions as memorable as other Halo's but the combat felt right and I liked the stuff they did with Chief and Cortana. Plus I'm one of the 6 people on Earth that don't hate Sarah Palmer.
The difference being that your weapons never obscure your screen outside of making areas outside the view darker. Having a weapon covering the bottom middle of your screen is just...pointless.
too much eslim
Member
there are no other games like Halo though.
Seems you're still talking about H4... Don't know why when its already proven on twitter than things like flinch, perks, KS's are not in this game at all.
Also its a fucking sprint, and last I checked spartans were humans. How different do you want their sprint animation to be?
LMFAO What? There was more to that gif? That fucking head pat. What a response to that shit post.
Syphon Filter
Member
Right but sprint is still in and its one of the bigger issues.
NullPointer
Member
Its right there in the title of the very first game.
Every Halo has changed things up. All of them.
Not everything works, sure, but there are as many Halo fans as there are campaigns and differences in multiplayer.
Caayn
Member
Jup I wish that PD would make GT7 an arcade style racer and hope that Valve makes Half-Life 3 a tree simulator. And if any fans of those series has any problems with that they should just shut the fuck up because that's what PD and Valve want >.>
Knock it the fuck off. Troll for what. Im getting the collection on tuesday and have played every halo game except Halo 4. Im just not as invested in this as you are.
The point is that Halo was the last major franchise that catered to this preference.
What else /can/ we buy aside from MCC?
(Just hoping the new info about hip fire accuracy is good news).
PanicFreak
Member
This person gets it.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Not only is it in the title but every game should evolve. If you're in a camp that wants things to stay the same (in any industry) then you're in the wrong camp. Life is about evolution. Survival of the fittest. Halo is not going to survive being the same game. Its not going to be fun either.
If you don't want change then don't play new games.
ROUGE_BLOCK
Member
Sprinting I have no problem with, because you're a damn spartan and those bastards can run really fast canonically. I know it's multiplayer but even back in the Halo 2 days before sprint was a thing in all FPS' I always wondered why the hell spartans were going so slow. If 343 are going to put in sprint and if it's an armour ability like it was in Reach, that will probably be better than it being enabled for everyone. Or just make the damn basic movement a lot faster therefore making sprint negligible (Once again their cybernetically enhanced supersoliders, they shouldn't be going at a snails pace, imo).
Now about that ADS, to me I'm betting it will work like zoom always does on the rifles. If they add some customization to the guns which allows you switch scopes for different types of sights its not the worst thing in the world. I think the outrage on here is classic GAF hyperbole, but everyone had so little information other than that 6 second clip initially so I guess it was expected.
Actually some should do a psychology study on these kinds of threads. I'm mean were talking about a tiny little clip that revealed a rather large change possibly in the Halo formula, and this place exploded like a nuclear bomb.
I will just wait and see what we get tomorrow from the Halofest event.
Now about that ADS, to me I'm betting it will work like zoom always does on the rifles. If they add some customization to the guns which allows you switch scopes for different types of sights its not the worst thing in the world. I think the outrage on here is classic GAF hyperbole, but everyone had so little information other than that 6 second clip initially so I guess it was expected.
Actually some should do a psychology study on these kinds of threads. I'm mean were talking about a tiny little clip that revealed a rather large change possibly in the Halo formula, and this place exploded like a nuclear bomb.
I will just wait and see what we get tomorrow from the Halofest event.
Reach introduced sprint to Halo - not Halo 4. And sprint clearly wasn't the main problem in that game. If sprint usage comes at a cost (which probably will be the case if we take Stinkles post), then it's just another interesting addition to the sandbox. Sprint isn't a problem in general. It only will become a problem if the implementation is bad.
Syphon Filter
Member
For perks they never said it wont be in, for all we know its a playlist with no perks and that's all. It's a sci fi game,it does not matter if spartans are humans or whatever. The gameplay is effected by it. Also the abilities like thrusting also interfere's with the map flow.
Monocle
Member
Those people would be the vocal minority, the idiots who insist on change for the sake of change. Why fix what obviously isn't broken?
A hammer doesn't need a fucking laser sight as long as it hammers nails damn good.
If the gunplay and movement was the same, this thread would be full of nothing but praise from the people who actually care the most about this series.
The series can evolve without changing a core mechanic even slightly.
Halo didn't survive when it changed.
See: Halo 4 population
People thought COD4 was perfect and every COD game has been following the same formula since and people bitch about that all the time
Final Verdict
Member
The argument here over sprint is quite entertaining to watch.
I personally do not mind it...
I always thought Halo 1-3 was a bit slow, but i liked sprint better in reach than it was in Halo 4.
In reach, the movement speed for sprint was faster than in H4, but it didn't last as long and took a while to recharge.
Anyways, I think it will be ok as long as they can balance it right.
I don't want them to make it feel like CoD, but i don't want them just making H2 with better graphics either...that's what the anniversary is all about...
Hoping for a truly fresh and fun Halo experience.
I personally do not mind it...
I always thought Halo 1-3 was a bit slow, but i liked sprint better in reach than it was in Halo 4.
In reach, the movement speed for sprint was faster than in H4, but it didn't last as long and took a while to recharge.
Anyways, I think it will be ok as long as they can balance it right.
I don't want them to make it feel like CoD, but i don't want them just making H2 with better graphics either...that's what the anniversary is all about...
Hoping for a truly fresh and fun Halo experience.
Well said, I honestly cannot understand why people don't want changes, there's Halo MCC there for you. They say "evolution" not necessary, but then there can be changes which are not sprint, but every change which has come has been bashed on by the same people. It's a never ending cycle.
Change is necessary for anything to survive, heck even fucking mario has changed from it's 2D side scrolling to a 3d platforming with so many mechanics.
Syphon Filter
Member
I know it was in Reach[and limited btw] what is your point? Sprint cant be implemented to perfection because you must choose one way to make a map.
Guys evolution is fine, 2/3 and some of Reach for me made great additions to the game. 343 have shown they know how to fuck up Halo and nothing else. It's normal to wary of anything else they intend to put into the game and stuff they leave in from Halo 4. Evolution is all well and good but I just really don't think sprint or ADS have any place in a Halo game.
I'd be happy if they just re-released Halo 2......oh shit.
Then it can evolve without ruining why people like it in the first place. Its like if they took MGS and added magic elements and then say it evolved. You have to evolve it by adding things that the majority of the Halo fanbase will enjoy. Not by unnecessarily tacking things on.
Dr Amazon MD
Member
That's a pretty good analogy. lol. Also there's a difference from evolving and copying.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Why did Halo ever evolve combat in the first place? Golden eye did a well enough job. Doom did as well. Why evolve anything? Just play the tunes that the crowd loves. Don't do anything new. Don't do create anything new. Just stick to what you know.
There are always ways to do things better. We don't know that what we're playing actually is broken. And it takes innovation or evolution to show us that.
I remember this being plastered all over the Bungie forums back in 2010 lol.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Except Halo 4 Legendary BRs > all of Reach. Except maybe Invasion. 343 knows how to make a good Halo game, they need to learn where to stop.
Uno Venova
Banned
It has to be good change or evolution though, or else it ends up like Halo 4. Probably why there was so little faith in 5.
What is innovative about the changes people don't like coming to Halo?
Syphon Filter
Member
Its not that we dont want change. Halo 3 added equipment and it was fine. its the deliberate pandering to the COD crowd regardless of how it effect the Halo gameplay that is the issue. It actually is an issue in general,not just Halo.
Yeah but to others (you have to realize there is another side to the coin) there was nothing to really compare halo to on Consoles back then, now we do, the people have spoken over the last two games now. Honestly, at this point, I think the series should just have a permanent home on Pc where that crowd thrives. Console players have been moving away from the halo style of game play for a long while now. They did different things with 4, load outs ect ect, but it was still halo, who cares if there was sprinting? Do what everyone else does when a new mechanic introduced, learn it, master it, adapt, and most importantly still have fun. I think halo 4 gets a bad rep for alllll the wrong reasons. Backed by the blops2 migration, people make halo 4 to be a travesty when it was anything but that
(ps, there is tons of other FPS, they are not all COD)
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Looking forward to seeing high quality video of it tomorrow.
NullPointer
Member
But every last Halo game has made significant changes to the formula. Or should we just have gotten nothing but Halo: CE templated games since?
Or is Halo 2 the truth and the glory?
Or was it Halo 3?
Totally true, that's why h5 sounds so great after what stinkles said about sprint not being a get out of jail card.
Also H4 tried to change TOO much in too short of a time, and that was a problem.
Pseudo judo
Member
Sorry, but that's just a dumb. If you have to go so far removed from realism to make your point then it's probably because your point is extremely weak.
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