tonythedemon
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I've been seeing it drop frames when I am driving really fast but that's about it.
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What the fuck is up with the input lag in Grand Theft Auto V on PS4??
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masterrace indeed. fucking sad
Tainted
Member
Serious question: Are the people complaining about this have not played any of the GTAs since GTA:SA ?
Its obvious to me (and others), that the controls are exactly the same as they were in lastgen GTAV and GTAIV regardless of platform.
The input lag, dead zone or whatever you want to call it is definitely present, but its been present for a long time.
Its obvious to me (and others), that the controls are exactly the same as they were in lastgen GTAV and GTAIV regardless of platform.
The input lag, dead zone or whatever you want to call it is definitely present, but its been present for a long time.
dreamstation
Member
Finally! I thought I was the only one who felt the controls weren't as tight as they should be. Aiming and driving were the worst - everything felt unresponsive. Definitely not my TV either as I haven't had any issues with other PS4 games.
I never played the PS3 version so I'm not sure how it felt there or if the controls were this way on purpose but it definitely felt unresponsive after playing Destiny and Watch Dogs.
I never played the PS3 version so I'm not sure how it felt there or if the controls were this way on purpose but it definitely felt unresponsive after playing Destiny and Watch Dogs.
The deadzone is definitely there , but it was there on the 360 version I played last year as well.
You get used to it ( and compensate I guess) but it always feels more apparent when I have been playing other games and then go to GTa than when I've only played GTA for a few days.
At this point there is no chance that R* will change it.
You get used to it ( and compensate I guess) but it always feels more apparent when I have been playing other games and then go to GTa than when I've only played GTA for a few days.
At this point there is no chance that R* will change it.
matrix-cat
Member
Aiming controls are bad. The deadzone, reticle acceleration, 'stickiness' and whatever else you're supposed to do to make a shooter feel good have been done poorly in this game. Shooting dudes feels like shit; hell, even shooting targets at the shooting range is awful. Some challenges have you fire at a moving target, and trying to match your reticle's speed to the target's is almost impossible.
You just have to use the lock-on controls, unfortunately. Shit's bad, but at least the lock-on aiming makes shooting dudes a trifle.
You just have to use the lock-on controls, unfortunately. Shit's bad, but at least the lock-on aiming makes shooting dudes a trifle.
Reckless Onion
Member
lmfao chill the fuck down, it was a joke
alexandros
Banned
Holy crap, I didn't know this was such a problem with the console versions. Hopefully the PC one will be fine but I am worried.
Summer Haze
Banned
Would you kindly upload a clip? I find this hard to believe.
ChainsawFilms
Member
NoHeDidn't
Member
Gonna chime in and say turn up camera sensitivity if your referencing to camera movements.Otherwise show vid pressing action buttons and actions occurring ingame to show input lag.Otherwise gonna say especially with first person issues guess it comes down to base game being developed as a third person game.
Summer Haze
Banned
I have all sensitivity settings on maximum in the video I posted. Here it is again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He77KcLJN-o
ChainsawFilms
Member
Sensitivity is nothing to do with this problem. Increasing Sensitivity will simply increase the rate of turn in relation to the analogue stick reading - ie less analogue motion is needed to turn at speed X.
What you're seeing in the videos is the camera moving after the analogue has been flicked. Delay. Latency.
What you're seeing in the videos is the camera moving after the analogue has been flicked. Delay. Latency.
Militant17
Member
Have you played GTA before? It's definately there and always has been. Why are we talking about this now?
Summer Haze
Banned
Because, for me at least, first-person mode makes it much more noticeable and makes it harder to aim. And I think the DS4 sticks having more resistance than the DS3 sticks accentuates it even further.
Why not talk about it now? If Rockstar were to take notice and fix it, then that would be great for everyone who notices it and/or is bothered by it.
Uiki
Member
By doing what, adding 30 frames?
Rockstar needs to see these videos. The deadzone is a real problem. I think the title of this thread should reflect that.
Summer Haze
Banned
Uiki
Member
That's not the problem and it's pretty clear in the videos floating around this topic.
Deadzone could use a tweak (or maybe even a slider in the options to tweak if you experience drift) but it would solve absolutley nothing about input lag. It's their engine, it's 30 frame. It's like that for gta4 and rdr too.
I didn't notice the lag until I tried first person mode and then flipped back. That's when it became obvious. I think it's always been there.
It's definitely not the TV or the PS4. Easy way to test this is to just quickly flick one of the analogue sticks ingame. You'll notice it takes around 300ms for the input to execute ingame.
However, this effect does not occur in the GTA V menus when flicking between menu options, or in other games, or in the PS4 home screen itself, clearly suggesting this is a GTA V issue.
Summer Haze
Banned
Then it would be their engine, not the 30fps specifically, that's the cause. Far Cry 4 is 30fps on PS4 and is much more responsive.
Man...I really hope it's not due to their engine, that would mean we have no hope of this being fixed.
moniker
Member
In the first video you can see a good amount of input lag as well when he's using the movement stick. That could of course just be his TV though, but otherwise the problem is both input lag and screwed up dead zone for aiming.
Uiki
Member
Well.. The only rockstar game that has less input lag is max payne. But it's not in first person and you still see the delay.
I didn't play fc4 on ps4 so i don't reall know :/
ricardo_sousa11
Member
It has a huge deadzone, but no lag...ps4 here.
instead of moving the camera, try firing a gun and see how much delay u get.
instead of moving the camera, try firing a gun and see how much delay u get.
Summer Haze
Banned
Up until a couple of weeks ago, I was switching between GTA V and FC4 on a regular basis, and it was so obvious the moment I switched that the GTA V controls were less responsive. I actually temporarily stopped playing GTA V until I finished FC4 and traded it in because it was too much contrasted against FC4.
ChainsawFilms
Member
Then why is the camera still moving after the controls have been released?
Can everyone please stop saying there is no latency. If you're that convinced it's not there, post a video. We've asked repeatedly.
Summer Haze
Banned
This. You can clearly see in my video that the camera is still moving after the stick has returned to its original position. This is what causes me to over-aim and get my ass killed when playing MP missions. Lol.
ChainsawFilms
Member
Yep. Makes first person aiming worthless, and as for shooting while in a vehicle - it's torrid. There's so much amazing stuff in this game, such a shame the controls detract so much.
TheContact
Member
Ps4 user here and not experiencing what Op is. I could understand the frustration tho. I wonder if that's a Tv issue. Weird.
Netherscourge
Banned
Is your controller charged?
Do you have any other WIFI devices that may be interefering with the reception?
I had to get rid of a wifi mouse once because it was cutting out on me alot. We had a wifi baby monitor on the same frequemcy and it messing me up big time during WoW raids.
I tried different channels, but didn't work. Both were 2.4ghz and apparenatly on the same wave or something.
I went back to a wired mouse and never had problems again.
Do you have any other WIFI devices that may be interefering with the reception?
I had to get rid of a wifi mouse once because it was cutting out on me alot. We had a wifi baby monitor on the same frequemcy and it messing me up big time during WoW raids.
I tried different channels, but didn't work. Both were 2.4ghz and apparenatly on the same wave or something.
I went back to a wired mouse and never had problems again.
I think its fairly save to say no one will upload this clip, because its impossible.
Where did you acquire your copy of GTAV from mate?
if you're playing with a pad, it's gonna be the same shit, guaranteed.
Unless they patch it.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
Theres a video up in this page that shows it.
While moving your character you do not have any delay, only on the aiming, so its a Deadzone+Acceleration problem instead of a lag problem. And its much more noticeable in first person view than 3rd person.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Not a good one.
Summer Haze
Banned
This is the best proof anyone has given in this thread. The camera doesn't even start moving until the stick is in its original position, holy shit.
We need to send these to Rockstar, along with my video, and giffy's.
Edit: If you don't mind, can I use these GIF's in a thread on the GTA forums?
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Go on man, shows us a clip. I must have bought the Input Lag version on accident.
Summer Haze
Banned
I just crated a thread on the GTA forums about this:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/754440-input-delaydead-zoneacceleration-issue-ps4/
Hopefully Rockstar take notice. I would tweet them, but I don't have twitter.
http://gtaforums.com/topic/754440-input-delaydead-zoneacceleration-issue-ps4/
Hopefully Rockstar take notice. I would tweet them, but I don't have twitter.
Ivan
Member
Firing a gun is also tied to game mechanics/physics/animation system, it could be slow by design, so that's not a way to measure input lag.
You have Quake's shooting response times and you have other games, for example.
Problem with gta are huge deadzones and bad camera acceleration, combined with clunky animation system.
The game is still awesome...
You have Quake's shooting response times and you have other games, for example.
Problem with gta are huge deadzones and bad camera acceleration, combined with clunky animation system.
The game is still awesome...
ChainsawFilms
Member
I'll watch that thread with interest. It will either get ignored or filled with people saying it's your TV and / or their version doesn't do it and they're super sensitive to latency
Summer Haze
Banned
I'll watch that thread with interest. It will either get ignored or filled with people saying it's your TV and / or their version doesn't do it and they're super sensitive to latency
Yup, I'm expecting 99% of comments to be like this.
Sigh.
Well, I also contacted Rockstar Support directly. So now we just wait see what they say in the reply, if I even get one...