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Final Fantasy Type-0 HD | Review Thread

daveo42

Banned
You can beat the game in 25 hours BUT you really need to play through at least a second time to get the rest of the story.

Ugh...I'll probably play through it once and then get the rest from a wiki. I don't have the time to play through the same game twice just to see everything, especially at a runtime of 25+ hrs.
 
I believe there's a fuller/true ending for people that beat it twice.

There are parts in the story that happen behind the scenes and in the second play through you can see what happened during those moments. Also beating it a second time unlocks a further ending.

Ohhh, I see. I guess a second playthrough would go much faster knowing where to go and what to do/skip. I wonder if the second playthrough stuff is as interesting/well done as Nier's other playthroughs.
 

Fraxin

Member
While not the next-generation Final Fantasy game fans are anxiously waiting for, Type-0 is a fun action/adventure with a lot of compelling ideas. There's enough variety in the gameplay to keep the combat fresh for dozens of hours, and the story is surprisingly emotional for a political thriller. Sadly, Final Fantasy Type-0 HD is held back by its handheld roots, but don't let that keep you from discovering this oddity.

8.8 - GamingNexus
 

SerTapTap

Member
Sounds good not great.

You can beat the game in 25 hours BUT you really need to play through at least a second time to get the rest of the story.

25 hours sounds okay, second time less so...maybe I'll beat it once and look up a synopsis for the rest. I was mostly worried this would take too much time.
 

RDreamer

Member
Interesting... I know FF Type-O is a great game but it is getting reviews akin to FFXIII-2 and LR.

That's about what I expected.

I played a bit of the PSP version (before my PSP decided to take a dump and I got distracted by other shit and decided just to wait it out for the HD version... so that I could justify getting it for the XV demo). Anyway, the game is typical Square Enix spinoff stuff. It has all the problems that XIII-2 and LR had: A bunch of gameplay jankiness hindering a few innovative ideas, a bunch of half baked ideas, a storyline that doesn't make much sense at all, and overall much less polish than a mainline game. I do applaud SE for their experimentation in the RPG genre, but it doesn't always work quite as well as the fully polished brothers they also put out. Hell, even those sometimes get lampooned (FFXIII). Don't get me wrong, I actually rather liked the whole XIII saga, warts and all. I thought they were better games than the scores they got would imply (then again, I kind of think most JRPGs deserve better scores).

I didn't have much problems with the camera on the PSP, but the battle system seemed kind of weird. I didn't quite like what I saw of the Kill Sight mechanic. There were way too many characters. Those characters didn't seem to have much personality. The story was kind of out there. On top of that, Type-0 was built for mobile platforms. Like everything about it from what I played was built to be played on the go. I have always been worried about that translation to consoles.

I personally think anyone hyped up and thinking this is a better game than FFXIII will be disappointed. It isn't. Then again, I suppose I thought anyone who thought XIII-2 was a better game than XIII was fucking nuts, too.

Anyway, that's my long take. I'm expecting reviews similar to XIII-2 and LR. This isn't the return to FF glory that some people have expected for years. It's a quirky spinoff title with some interesting ideas and some heart to it. Luckily, that's what I'm in the mood for right now.

You can beat the game in 25 hours BUT you really need to play through at least a second time to get the rest of the story.

Seriously? Is this like "get a few more cutscenes" type of story, or are you saying a lot of story is given the 2nd time? I really really hate mechanics like that...
 
Ugh...I'll probably play through it once and then get the rest from a wiki. I don't have the time to play through the same game twice just to see everything, especially at a runtime of 25+ hrs.

25 hours sounds okay, second time less so...maybe I'll beat it once and look up a synopsis for the rest. I was mostly worried this would take too much time.

Sounds like other people feel as I do. It's funny because I don't mind playing a long game (although it takes me a while; DA:I recently was 100hours for me), but replaying it twice is something that feels very ehh especially considering I have a huge backlog as it is.
 

KupoNut

Member
The question is, is it actually like FFXIII, where you don't need those encyclopedia entries to understand if you have even a cursory ability to pay attention, or is it undecipherable nonsense without reading the entries?

I think so yes, Type-0 still has a ton of terminology similar to FFXIII. Tabata said multiple times FFXV won't have any of those
 

Jinaar

Member
I hope this game is as fun as Crisis Core was for me compared to XIII. I'm really looking forward to this.

But the question is to buy it now only to place it to the side by next Tuesday when I'll be bleeding blood profusely with BloodBorne. AHHHH!!!
 

RDreamer

Member
Sounds like other people feel as I do. It's funny because I don't mind playing a long game (although it takes me a while; DA:I recently was 100hours for me), but replaying it twice is something that feels very ehh especially considering I have a huge backlog as it is.

It feels like a really shitty way of forcing extended gameplay. I really hate when games do that.
 

SerTapTap

Member
Sounds like other people feel as I do. It's funny because I don't mind playing a long game (although it takes me a while; DA:I recently was 100hours for me), but replaying it twice is something that feels very ehh especially considering I have a huge backlog as it is.

Both are a factor for me, I have tons of stuff to play though I will occasionally still get sucked into a super long game. Replaying, unless it's super quick, is generally a turn off though. Especially if I have to watch the story scenes again...are they clearly delineated so I can skip the same olds but see the new stuff? Is a second run through significantly different/ shorter? If it's like, the same thing but with a different ending I can skip that.
 

LiK

Member
After playing through P4G twice, 25 hours seems like nothing and with NG+, I guess that's about double that?
 

Thoraxes

Member
I think so yes, Type-0 still has a ton of terminology similar to FFXIII. Tabata said multiple times FFXV won't have any of those
Yes we already discussed the FNC stuff. That doesn't mean that XV still can't have a lot of confusing names and terminology. Hell, I feel like people are speaking Chinese whenever I read stuff about the cities and people mentioned for XV so far, and I say this as someone who studied Latin.
 
So is the story better or worse than FFX just as a gauge? I got over FFX's story because the gameplay was fun, so just curious.
 

zennyzz

Member
The question is, is it actually like FFXIII, where you don't need those encyclopedia entries to understand if you have even a cursory ability to pay attention, or is it undecipherable nonsense without reading the entries?

It's nothing you NEED to read up on to get, thre's a lot of proper nouns as the kotaku article noted, but they're all straight forward things. Type-0's biggest issue s that it's very disjointed and ike is mentioned most of its world building and strength comes from talking to people in your down time rather than the story proper.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
I am personally adding 25% on top every review score as a "don't have to see Lightning's vapid mug" bonus.

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It has her forgotten sister at least.
 

Thoraxes

Member
So is the story better or worse than FFX just as a gauge? I got over FFX's story because the gameplay was fun, so just curious.
It depends on why you didn't enjoy X's story. Like, I didn't love all the characters in Type-0, but I had my 8 or so favorites.

It's a more gritty game than X is
 
It's nothing you NEED to read up on to get, thre's a lot of proper nouns as the kotaku article noted, but they're all straight forward things. Type-0's biggest issue s that it's very disjointed and ike is mentioned most of its world building and strength comes from talking to people in your down time rather than the story proper.

this sounds like a strength, honestly. camera looks TERRIBAD though. WTF is the deal with that motion blur? WHY CAN YOU NOT TURN THAT OFF??
 

daveo42

Banned
After playing through P4G twice, 25 hours seems like nothing and with NG+, I guess that's about double that?

The difference between P4G and this is that you can get the true ending of P4G on your first play through. NG+ is just gravy in that game.

Does NG+ in Type-0 let you skip scenes and old dialogue? That might make it a bit better.
 

zennyzz

Member
this sounds like a strength, honestly. camera looks TERRIBAD though. WTF is the deal with that motion blur? WHY CAN YOU NOT TURN THAT OFF??

It honestly depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a major epic narrative. Type-0 wouldn't give you that. Its main story is very removed from most elements, it's more of a "These things happen and as a result these other things happen." much like a documentary.

Most of the really intriguing and interesting stuff comes from side missions and story lines which are substantially more thought out and engaging.

The difference between P4G and this is that you can get the true ending of P4G on your first play through. NG+ is just gravy in that game.

Does NG+ in Type-0 let you skip scenes and old dialogue? That might make it a bit better.

you can skip them on the first playthrough.
 
Stevivor.com - 6

If you’re a big Final Fantasy fan you may be considering picking this one up; depending on how big a fan you are impacts how much you’ll enjoy it. If you’re a huge fan there’s a damn good chance you’ll be grabbing this simply because it comes with a demo for Final Fantasy XV. Removing that, I honestly had a little trouble deciding how I felt about FFT0; it’s not bad, it just feels a bit like focus at Square Enix has shifted (rightfully) towards other — and quite big — upcoming games.
 

Jeels

Member
The difference between P4G and this is that you can get the true ending of P4G on your first play through. NG+ is just gravy in that game.

Does NG+ in Type-0 let you skip scenes and old dialogue? That might make it a bit better.

Yes it does.
 
It depends on why you didn't enjoy X's story. Like, I didn't love all the characters in Type-0, but I had my 8 or so favorites.

It's a more gritty game than X is
Interesting.
Mostly my issue was the religion conflict was not that interesting, specially after Tactics pulled it off so much better.
 

Skilletor

Member
The difference between P4G and this is that you can get the true ending of P4G on your first play through. NG+ is just gravy in that game.

Does NG+ in Type-0 let you skip scenes and old dialogue? That might make it a bit better.

Pretty sure you can skip scenes on your first playthrough.
 

daveo42

Banned
It honestly depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a major epic narrative. Type-0 wouldn't give you that. Its main story is very removed from most elements, it's more of a "These things happen and as a result these other things happen." much like a documentary.

Most of the rally intriguing and interesting stuff comes from side missions and story lines which are substantially more thought out and engaging.

you can skip them on the first playthrough.

You mean full sets of dialogue between characters and not just the CG cut scenes?

Edit: I guess I should have clarified that in my original post. Skipping CG cut scenes isn't really new and most games do that. P4G lets you speed up old dialogue to make NG+ much shorter.
 

CorvoSol

Member
I am personally adding 25% on top every review score as a "don't have to see Lightning's vapid mug" bonus.

Was gonna tell you that technically a character in game looks just like her, but I see others have.


I think people need to understand that NG+ isn't just rerunning the same story. Most of the missions in NG+ are different, with different cutscenes. Major story ones still play and can be skipped, but there is a LOT of new stuff. There are also like, bonus ops to do in NG+ so you don't have to spend time at school talking to the same people again. You can instead take part in more of the conquest of Orience and stuff.

There's a bunch of content that's relegated only to second or later playthroughs. That's its own problem, sure, but at least NG+ isn't a straight rerun.
 
It honestly depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a major epic narrative. Type-0 wouldn't give you that. Its main story is very removed from most elements, it's more of a "These things happen and as a result these other things happen." much like a documentary.

Most of the really intriguing and interesting stuff comes from side missions and story lines which are substantially more thought out and engaging.

yeah, this sounds pretty good actually
 
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