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A Vita Renaissance: Is It Possible?
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vicoakland
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Wait a second. That significantly expands my options. (I'm assuming it ONLY works on remote play.)
But that would mean games like Einhander, RayCrisis, and R-Type Delta can be played on a Vita?
Hmmm. And, on the go?
flatearthpandas
Member
While PS4 rp quality has been variable, PS3 has only ever been shit in my experience. Maybe you can get some acceptable quality sitting in the room next to your PS3 while, I assume, someone else uses your TV and your comfy DS controller sits quietly. You won't get anything approaching usable on the go.
vicoakland
Member
Einhander played fine, but tiny comparatively. (And yeah, I was sitting on the couch in front of a 27 in CRT, so point taken.) But I'm surprised this works at all and am grateful for the info since my gf occasionally takes over the living room for work calls.
I put Spelunky, Limbo, Teraria, TxK, Retro City and Velocity Ultra on the internal memory and still have space left. That should cover BART rides for a bit.
Is there anything in the old school PSP library that I could add to these that doesn't eat up too much space?
Lumines only takes up 150mb if I remember right.
I think the only way Vita could regain any relevance if it stopped pandering to its current audience. I briefly considered buying one but the amount of Otaku-bait content on the system puts me right off. Not to mention that I am entirely disinterested in mobile PS3 experiences. I think the Vita needs to differentiate itself from its home console counterpart by having new and specifically portable experiences; much like how the 3DS differentiates itself from the WiiU.
Pennywise83
Banned
This.
PSP was an amazing machine for what concerned software. It had two beautiful Ace Combat; Tekken; high-production values SQEX games; Monster Hunter; a top-notch Metal Gear Solid; very good porting / remakes (Breath of Fire, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean); awesome platform games such as LocoRoco and Patapon. PSV is plaing at comparison.
I think when people start hoping for Deus Ex The Fall to come to the Vita it's time to pack it up. That game was awful, even for a mobile game.
family_guy
Member
Internal memory is disabled when you use a card.
I haven't played it, but I'd rather give it a shot than play any of the Japanese games releasing on the system, and big majority of the indies I play on the PS4, so there's nothing else left really.
Deus Ex would be better than nothing at least.
Whenever these discussions come up, while I agree that the PSP had a wealth of support from major developers that just isn't there on Vita, I feel that the Vita gets no credit for the decent range of downloadable stuff on it. Frozen Synapse, Spelunky, Soldner X, Rogue Legacy, Hotline Miami, Guacamelee, The Swapper, Walking Dead, Terraria, etc etc. It allows western developers to release stuff for it, I can't wait to play Banner Saga for example.
Considering that it also plays the PSP and PSOne digital range, while it's own exclusive library is lacking as a successor, it does allow you to tailor a really nice collection to play on the move.
All the regular complaints (poor exclusive library compared to PSP, memory cards, lack of AAA support) are perfectly valid, but they don't stop it being a great portable gaming system with a large range of compatible games unless you only care for what is new and what is exclusive.
thelastcrusader
Banned
But I thought it was dead?!?
small44
Member
AAA games are system sellers so they increase the install base considerably which will help indies games to sell better
It's down yearly every week
sturgboski
Member
Why not do for the Vita what is happening a lot this generation: remaster. Like I think I've suggested a Patapon qHD collection as an addition to the Vita roster that shows that Sony supports the device. Maybe a GT Vita which is a remaster of GT PSP with maybe some tracks and cars that are in GT5 and GT6? Last one is a bit more effort and costly BUT should be cheaper than a GT being built from scratch for Vita. Maybe a Syphon Filter bundle as well? There's some other Sony published PSP titles as well. Outside of my GT suggestion, I would assume most would be low cost and would most likely have a nice return on investment.
thiscoldblack
Unconfirmed Member
Better learn Japanese. The only place the platform is thriving is in Japan.
If the Vita had SD or micro SD card support, it would probably be a really popular platform worldwide, in my opinion. I'm still using a 16 GB card and managing games is a pain in the neck. I don't even bother playing that much new games from PS+ because of it.
If the Vita had SD or micro SD card support, it would probably be a really popular platform worldwide, in my opinion. I'm still using a 16 GB card and managing games is a pain in the neck. I don't even bother playing that much new games from PS+ because of it.
Musou games, Telltale games could all be considered AA and they're all on the Vita.
small44
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In west
flatearthpandas
Member
Whoa, Disgaea 5 is out this week!?
This is the game I've been waiting years to remote play grind on Vita.
Hopefully that wasn't linked to show the Vita thriving though.
Nomination for post of the year.
VenomSnake
Neo Member
The inclusion of L2/R2 triggers or an official trigger case would have prolonged the lifespan as an actual "portable PS3" or remote play machine. Other than that, people with larger hands like me have trouble holding the device for a long period of time without cramping. Bought it and sold it within about 2 months.
Would have been a turn-off for me. It's a sleek and well-designed handheld as it is. With L2/R2 triggers, the design would probably be quite bulky. Part of its appeal for me is that it is quite easily portable so trade-offs shouldn't be made on that part imo. So I definitely do not think that a design like that would have prolonged its lifespan since the ease of portability is a key factor for handhelds (and therefore for people who buy handhelds like PS Vita).
You can always get a grip if you don't find it comfortable enough.
AlbionHero
Banned
Vita is what it is... If you enjoy niche Japanese games or want indies on the go, its your system. If not then Vita isn't the system you want.
As a fan of Japanese games, I love it and play it as much as any other system. As long as the NISA, Xseed and IFIs of the world keep on supporting it I'm happy.
As a fan of Japanese games, I love it and play it as much as any other system. As long as the NISA, Xseed and IFIs of the world keep on supporting it I'm happy.
VenomSnake
Neo Member
I understand however remote play is/was such a pain to deal with the touch screen. Especially for shooters which rely on those triggers pretty much all the time. Not to mention metal gear was nearly unplayable with the current layout. I have seen case mods that add triggers to the back and seem to work very well. Makes me wonder why Sony could just release a case themselves for those interested in it.
Telltale is a western company.
I honestly think that if some more of the larger kickstarters had come out on the Vita it would have done a bit better. If games like Shadow Run Returns had been on it, or if Hyper Light Drifter had released in time it might have saved it.
That being said I love my vita and just want more turn based rpgs on it.
That being said I love my vita and just want more turn based rpgs on it.
sono
Member
Most everyone who has one writes this including me.
It deserves a renaissance. I understand it is selling fairly steadily in Japan
Hmm yeah, for Remote Play I can understand that the controls not translating 1:1 to PS Vita might be a small annoyance. But yeah it's a trade-off between amount of controls options and portability.
For Remote Play couldn't the Game Control Mount (for DualShock 4) be a solution for people who want the original DualShock 4 controls? (like you can do with Xperia Z3 Remote Play) Or is there no DualShock 4 support for PS Vita Remote Play yet? Since PS Vita has Bluetooth it should be technically possible I think.
Fordfx2
Member
Amen to that!!!
Hmm yeah, for Remote Play I can understand that the controls not translating 1:1 to PS Vita might be a small annoyance. But yeah it's a trade-off between amount of controls options and portability.
For Remote Play couldn't the Game Control Mount (for DualShock 4) be a solution for people who want the original DualShock 4 controls? (like you can do with Xperia Z3 Remote Play) Or is there no DualShock 4 support for PS Vita Remote Play yet? Since PS Vita has Bluetooth it should be technically possible I think.
I dont think that would work with the way things are setup now, the PS4 recognizes the Vita as an actual controller that is signed into your acct and i dont think there is a way to have just a "screen mode" or have the vita accept ds4 commands. They could possibly do it where you have the ds4 communicating directly with ps4 with vita strictly as a screen, but youd need to be in the same area as the ps4.
also i wrote a bit about how to save the Vita, which basically ends up being a way to save the games on vita instead of the hardware itself. Here it is, for the curious http://www.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=935809
Fordfx2
Member
Your link is broken ^^
AlbionHero
Banned
Its still very healthy in Japan... its kind of like the opposite of Xbox where its dead in Japan yet healthy worldwide. I think people are a bit too pessimistic about the Vita simply because its not doing well in the West so they don't realize how its been a success for Sony in Japan. With how more and more Japanese devs aren't able to keep up with the console development costs, Vita gives them a viable alternative as well (that or mobile, at least).
Seriously?! That's dumb as hell. I just bought my (Japanese) Vita yesterday and my 16 GB card is still in the mail.
EdReedFan20
Member
Wait....you can do this!?!
You could actually do it on PSP, but it was just laggy. Very, very laggy. Sony's had three remote play iterations. One Blu-Ray based game you could do on PSP was (hahaha) Lair. PSP and PS3, PS Vita and PS3, PS Vita and PS4. Each one improved on the other. The only major improvement I can see left for PlayStation remote play is if there is a Vita 2 and it has L2/R2 triggers and L3/R3 and 1080p video. Or they could make an add on for Vita, but I fear it would only be compatible with the new LCD Vitas.
Pennywise83
Banned
The point is: I mainly play indie games on PC and PS3, therefore those are not an added value on PSV; I played PSP games on PSP; I played PS1 on PS1 / PSP / PS3. I mainly care for what is new and what is exclusive because that's why I usually buy a platform.
Sorry its fixed now
Those numbers are not what I'd call "very healthy" at all, they only look like that because Vita is 3rd place by default. The same can be said about those PS4 and 3DS numbers, though, Japan is just not buying a lot of hardware right now.
AlbionHero
Banned
Fordfx2
Member
Still showing "File not found"
Renaissance confirmed, then!
Honestly, before Vita and WiiU, a system selling ~3.6 million units from 2011 to 2015 would have never been considered "very healthy".
spons
Gold Member
I assume you can backup everything to your PC using CMA, then install the memory card and restore everything to it.
VenomSnake
Neo Member
Hmm yeah, for Remote Play I can understand that the controls not translating 1:1 to PS Vita might be a small annoyance. But yeah it's a trade-off between amount of controls options and portability.
For Remote Play couldn't the Game Control Mount (for DualShock 4) be a solution for people who want the original DualShock 4 controls? (like you can do with Xperia Z3 Remote Play) Or is there no DualShock 4 support for PS Vita Remote Play yet? Since PS Vita has Bluetooth it should be technically possible I think.
I use remote play on my Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 with a DS4 and it is a much better experience.
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