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GTA 5 for $29 (Nuuvem) | Hola VPN | NO Region Lock for Activation

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XBP

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victor.m said:
Nothing illegal about using Hola to buy the game from Nuuvem. What about people using VPN to access licensed content on Netflix that would usually only be available in other countries? Do you stand morally against that? You're probably going to say you do, but it's irrelevant because doing it is so pervasive that nobody cares. Netflix knows people do it, and even though they recently implemented provisions into their ToS to combat it, they're probably not gonna do shit. As a percentage of total userbase, I am sure only a very, very small percentage of Netflix subscribers have the savvy or give enough fucks to do that.

By the way, nothing illegal about that, either.

If the company (Rockstar) cared, they would just block accounts that try to phone-in to RSC from a non-Brazilian IP. Implementing this kind of check would be trivial.

Spoiler: that's not gonna happen.
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Netflix = Same price charged but content is different across regions due to licensing.
Game keys = Games are made available cheaper to some countries where the average income is extremely low and people there are not able to buy games at full retail price. If this wasn't done these people will resort to piracy. Same content but different pricing to help people with low average income.

Is it really the same thing?


dex3108 said:
Tell me what is difference (for Rockstar) between buying game now and waiting it to drop at 30$?

They care about money and in this case they will get same amount and in my opinion it is better to to get it now for 30$ and not to pirate that game. Customers always have right to look for better deal and buying from nuuvem is not shady or illegal because you can always ask somebody from South America to buy it for you.
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You should look for the best possible deal, yes. What you shouldn't look for is ways to exploit regional restrictions imposed by developers to help people from low per capita countries.


Anyway, this is my opinion and no one here has to agree with it. It just feels shitty to me. Its also interesting how so many people are ok with pricing workarounds for a game made by rockstar but not so much by a developer like CD Projekt.
 
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texhnolyze

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XBP said:
You should look for the best possible deal, yes. What you shouldn't look for is ways to exploit regional restrictions imposed by developers to help people from low per capita countries.


Anyway, this is my opinion and no one here has to agree with it. It just feels shitty to me. Its also interesting how so many people are ok with pricing workarounds for a game made by rockstar but not so much by a developer like CD Projekt.
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What if I ask someone in Brazil to buy the game for me? Is that considered shitty for you as well? What's the difference?

As for your last sentence, are you following how do they treat gamers, especially PC gamers?
 
cripterion

cripterion

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XBP said:
Netflix = Same price charged but content is different across regions due to licensing.
Game keys = Games are made available cheaper to some countries where the average income is extremely low and people there are not able to buy games at full retail price. If this wasn't done these people will resort to piracy. Same content but different pricing to help people with low average income.

Is it really the same thing?




You should look for the best possible deal, yes. What you shouldn't look for is ways to exploit regional restrictions imposed by developers to help people from low per capita countries.


Anyway, this is my opinion and no one here has to agree with it. It just feels shitty to me. Its also interesting how so many people are ok with pricing workarounds for a game made by rockstar but not so much by a developer like CD Projekt.
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Maybe cause CD Projekt doesn't price gouge for their brand new game unlike Rockstar/Take Two who make you pay full price for a port?
 
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XBP

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texhnolyze said:
What if I ask someone in Brazil to buy the game for me? Is that considered shitty for you as well? What's the difference?

As for your last sentence, are you following how do they treat gamers, especially PC gamers?
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I did yes. And how is that relevant to the discussion of regional pricing workarounds?


cripterion said:
Maybe cause CD Projekt doesn't price gouge for their brand new game unlike Rockstar/Take Two who make you pay full price for a port?
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But they did. They too are charging different prices in regions which they feel deserve a discount. Rockstar values their port at 60$. If the market feels this price is inflated and acts accordingly, the price will come down pretty quickly. So far that hasn't been the case (going by GTA5 being the no.1 seller on steam for a number of weeks now).
 
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Vintage

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Hi, I'll be new to GTA5, so here's a few stupid questions:
1) In-game currency pre-order money. How much are they worth and what can they be used for?
2) Tomorrow my friend will lend me his XB1 with GTA5, but I also want to buy it on PC for myself next week. Are savegames tied to profiles, so I can create new one without overwriting my friend's savegame? Will I be able to transfer all my career progress from XB1 to PC?
 
cripterion

cripterion

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XBP said:
I did yes. And how is that relevant to the discussion of regional pricing workarounds?




But they did. They too are charging different prices in regions which they feel deserve a discount.
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Nope. On GOG I paid around 40€ for the game because of the price equity between regions. EDIT : actually might have been even less considering the Euro was much higher than the dollar when I preordered. As it stands now, I just checked and the game would cost 43.79 . I'd say that's quite good for a brand new AAA game.
 
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dex3108

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XBP said:
You should look for the best possible deal, yes. What you shouldn't look for is ways to exploit regional restrictions imposed by developers to help people from low per capita countries.
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I live in South Eastern Europe and guess what R* gave me two choices to buy Steam version for 60 euros or to by GMG version for 78$. An you tell me that is ok pricing for my region? People who can pay 60$ they will buy game for 60$ because they don;t want to deal with whole VPN thing and most important they even don't know that they can buy game for 30$. People who can't afford 60$ game are looking for deals so there is no difference if they buy game now or 6 months later on steam at 50% off. Why? Because if there wasn't 30$ option they wouldn't buy game at all.
 
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JambiBum

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Vintage said:
Hi, I'll be new to GTA5, so here's a few stupid questions:
1) In-game currency pre-order money. How much are they worth and what can they be used for?
2) Tomorrow my friend will lend me his XB1 with GTA5, but I also want to buy it on PC for myself next week. Are savegames tied to profiles, so I can create new one without overwriting my friend's savegame? Will I be able to transfer all my career progress from XB1 to PC?
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You can transfer your online character's progress over but not the single player. You will also probably need to make a new profile on his xbox and on rockstar's social club. If you aren't going to play the multiplayer at all then you don't need to do either of these things and just wait until you get your copy to make a social club profile.
 
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XBP

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dex3108 said:
I live in South Eastern Europe and guess what R* gave me two choices to buy Steam version for 60 euros or to by GMG version for 78$. An you tell me that is ok pricing for my region? People who can pay 60$ they will buy game for 60$ because they don;t want to deal with whole VPN thing and most important they even don't know that they can buy game for 30$. People who can't afford 60$ game are looking for deals so there is no difference if they buy game now or 6 months later on steam at 50% off. Why? Because if there wasn't 30$ option they wouldn't buy game at all.
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That was never my point. All my posts in this topic have been a general comment about regional pricing. I haven't said anything about prices in specific countries and whether they are fair or not.

One of the reasons why so many countries with low per capita income are still being charged global prices is that companies fear people exploiting these low prices. With the way online infrastructure is implemented these days, its very difficult for a company to deploy a perfect system that would decide prices based on the purchasing power of people. As its been awfully clear from this thread, if such a system was ever implemented and without proper check and balance, a large number of people will exploit this system. So a game that might be 10% of your income would be 0.001% for people living in countries like the US or UK.

fushi said:
Cheaper prices in Ukraine? GOG getting a bit political, huh? :)

Would be funny if they doubled their prices in Russia, hah. But probably not that feasible economically.
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That would be pretty funny.
 
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The Lone Courier

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I really close to pulling the trigger but I've got a few questions.I'm sure this is a dumb question but if in the future I want to install mods would I face any problems?Would there be any incompatibilities? Also would this effect DLC?
 
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Komo

Banned
Gonna grab it on Nuuvem later this week, hopefully

Really disappointed that I can't get it physical without paying close to $100 AUD, though. I've bought all my GTA games physical, but I just can't afford this one.
 
Majukun

Majukun

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so is there a realistic risk that Rockstar might have put some kind of region lock that will make you unable to play the game after downloading it?
have we ever had something similiar in the past? thinking about getting the game, but wanna be sure I'm not gonna regret it
 
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Komo

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Majukun said:
so is there a realistic risk that Rocester might have put some kind of region lock that will make you unable to play the game after downloading it?
have we ever had something similiar in the past? thinking about getting the game, but wanna be sure I'm not gonna regret it
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No, not from Rockstar at least.
 
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oceanskie

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We Aus Gaffers are really getting it in the ass on this game.

Trying to get it on steam but US$75=AU$97.

Steam trading takes it down by about US$15 but we can't be sure if it's not the Japanese version. R* support page indicates the multiplayer will isolate Japanese version from rest of the international version.

Edit: Correction: on closer examination of the text, it appears that the above restriction regarding the Japanese version only applies to the Xbox360 and One platforms. The language/region restrictions regarding PC are yet to be published.
 
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turtlesbonanza

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Something is only worth what the market is willing to pay for it.

If the price is too high, it won't sell and the price will inevitably fall.

Given that this game is the best selling game of all time, the price is just reflecting the demand.

P.s. I live in Australia so I'm not immune to high prices for games.
 
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rouken

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Hektor said:
No, you have to download the entire game withing a single 4-hour session
/s :p
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aw man, i just asked because i have horrible experience with origin's client. i hope this would be stable because im expecting to download this for days
 
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Komo

Banned
Ffffff

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Changed my mind. Going retail
 
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Megasoum

Banned
Hmm... The game was downloading when I went to bed last night but now this morning it lost connection to the server and won't reconnect.
 
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Megasoum

Banned
Ah right... The "Unable to connect to server error" message" is actually "Yo dawg, there's not enough free space on your HDD"...
 
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Goldenhen

Member
For Australian gamers, you can preorder the game with 30% discount from greenmangaming.

But of course the code is only work on Rockstar Social Club not Steam.

Anyway use this code GMGAUS-30J9MF-MUINWW for 30% discount.
 
Saiyan-Rox

Saiyan-Rox

Member
used Chillie and got my code :D

Hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the ass like buying WD from the russian origin did
 
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Xyber

Member
Megasoum said:
The Steam version will launch the Social Club launcher anyway so you're actually saving clicks when getting it from Rockstar directly....but then I guess you don't care anyway.
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I expect it to work just like Max Payne 3, no separate social club launcher on Steam. Just an overlay in the game you sign into one time and then never bother with again.
 
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BigMastadon

Member
Getting a Paypal error every time I try this. I've done everything I can think of in terms of troubleshooting. I guess it wasn't meant to be for me -_-
 
finalflame

finalflame

Member
XBP said:
Netflix = Same price charged but content is different across regions due to licensing.
Game keys = Games are made available cheaper to some countries where the average income is extremely low and people there are not able to buy games at full retail price. If this wasn't done these people will resort to piracy. Same content but different pricing to help people with low average income.

Is it really the same thing?
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Of course it's the same thing. When you pay a price for Netflix, you are paying solely for access to the content licensed by Netflix for use in your country. By effectively accessing different versions of Netflix with additional content licensed for different regions, that is not available or licensed for yours, then you are using VPN to bypass a restriction that's in place because Netflix does not want to pay for/can't license the content in your country.

If you want to be "ethical" to your own standards, then you'd need to purchase a Netflix subscription for every region you want to view content in. Netflix does not just arbitrarily block content in some regions (this might be true for certain things), it gauges what licensing it wants to pay for which regions and if it's viable.

Again, if Rockstar cared as much as the internet game pricing police in this thread, they would simply add region coding to their keys and make sure the extensive, in-house DRM used in their game checks for the region. Clearly they don't care, justly because a small portion of smart, well-informed consumers will always be smart and get a good idea.
 
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