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[ps3ud0]

Nothing prevents them to use TouchSense, as all previous models.

If thats the case couldnt you just dupe the Device ID so a G25/27 declares itself as a G29?

My understanding is that theres still some length to the Immersion patents so I guess they could have negotiated a token fee

Its gonna be an interesting run upto the G29s release and then the end of the year hopefully...

ps3ud0 8)

 

[DieH@rd]

I really hope this is true.

And if they are making G29, I hope they will be kind to add driver support for older models [at least for DF G25 and G27].

 

[adamantypants]

I like how everyone's takeaway is "they better add G27 support". I already know there's going to be a song and dance why that's not possible. After all, if they decide to support the old wheels, what incentive do they have to sell you the new one? I'm guessing this is going to be a co-marketing/licensing deal with Sony with GT branding. Also, I don't think this would hit at $150. The DFGT was $150. This is supposedly called the G29, presumably a successor to the G27 which launched at $300.

edit: If you guys are serious enough to be spending $300+ on a gaming peripheral you really should be playing PC sims.

 

[DieH@rd]

I like how everyone's takeaway is "they better add G27 support". I already know there's going to be a song and dance why that's not possible. After all, if they decide to support the old wheels, what incentive do they have to sell you the new one? I'm guessing this is going to be a co-marketing/licensing deal with Sony with GT branding. Also, I don't think this would hit at $150. The DFGT was $150. This is supposedly called the G29, presumably a successor to the G27 which launched at $300.

G27 launched with shifter. This one will not.

I expect $199-249 price, that would put it below T300.

 

[Zeknurn]

G27 launched with shifter. This one will not.

I expect $199-249 price, that would put it below T300.

It's a bit weird to have a higher number for a lesser product.

 

[isamu]

If Jefferson breaks out with proper FFB wheel support for the Titan One before this G29 arrives, it will render it irrelevant.

Interesting none the less.

 

[DieH@rd]

It's a bit weird to have a higher number for a lesser product.

Why do you think it would be a lesser product? If a wheel and pedals are good, then tG29 can be appealing to many people who don't have money for T300 [which btw has shit pedals]

 

[Betta Lines]

It's a bit weird to have a higher number for a lesser product.

Not including a shifter wouldn't make it a lesser product - it would almost guarantee a better one (if pitched at roughly the same price as before).

 

[psn]

If Jefferson breaks out with proper FFB wheel support for the Titan One before this G29 arrives, it will render it irrelevant.

Interesting none the less.

A titan wheel?

 

[Branson]

virtualr just removed that same pic from the op, on request from logitech. http://www.virtualr.net/logitech-g29-first-photo-leaked



which thrustmaster? it should be vastly superior whatever this turns out to be. probably a barely upgraded g27.

Its a TX.

 

[Zeknurn]

Why do you think it would be a lesser product? If a wheel and pedals are good, then tG29 can be appealing to many people who don't have money for T300 [which btw has shit pedals]

Not including a shifter wouldn't make it a lesser product - it would almost guarantee a better one (if pitched at roughly the same price as before).

Quality of the product aside, since we don't know anything about it yet, it just seems like lesser value by not having everything that the lower numbered product had.

Also the G29 seems incomplete to me by having a clutch pedal but no shifter. I wonder how they will market that?

 

[le-seb]

If Jefferson breaks out with proper FFB wheel support for the Titan One before this G29 arrives, it will render it irrelevant.

A device masquerading an unsupported wheel into a standard controller won't ever be able to provide proper FFB to the wheel, as a controller is simply lacking any FFB functionality.

 

[ddikxela]

Hopefully it works with G27 shifter and pedals. Id like to see a base version sold on the cheap that I can plug my G27 gear into

 

[TheNamelessOne]

Great. I just bought a G27 a few weeks ago.

 

[Betta Lines]

Also the G29 seems incomplete to me by having a clutch pedal but no shifter. I wonder how they will market that?

I imagine it would be presented in a similar way to the T500RS.

 

[Dave_6]

Great. I just bought a G27 a few weeks ago.

Me too :/

 

[Metfanant]

Looks like a quality piece...if it was PS4/Xbone compatible for a reasonable price it MIGHT get me to bite...

But I already have a t500RS and a DFGT...so bother PlayStation only wheel is out of the question...even if it will be "officially" supported...

 

[Shaneus]

I was under the impression that Logitech moved out of the video game peripheral business

Well shit. If this isn't the case anymore, maybe they'll work on drivers for PS4 for existing wheels?

A device masquerading an unsupported wheel into a standard controller won't ever be able to provide proper FFB to the wheel, as a controller is simply lacking any FFB functionality.

Maybe it could masquerade it into thinking it's a G29?


I have a feeling I'd be on board with this. I'd assume that the existing shifter would work and I could probably palm off my G27 and pedals fairly easily on eBay. Hell, I should sell them now given I paid a pittance for them ($140AUD new).


Edit: So what does this mean for Thrustmaster, the "official" PS4 wheel manufacturer? Has it been a certain amount of time since the PS4 came out... like it was a one or two-year exclusivity deal?

 

[Mutagenic]

This has to use belts or I'm out.

 

[Lion Heart]

Um, gorgeous!!

I gave my DFGT to my cousin, honestly I was due for an upgrade. Only thing I'm worried about is the brake pedal dampening.. I was way more effective with the brakes of the cheaper dfgt than the G25 because I couldn't get use to its sensitivity.

The buttons on this thing seem GOAT.

 

[psn]

Oh yeah, please release it already Logitech. I want it now!!

 

[Koutsoubas]

I want this thing, yesterday! G27 was one of the best wheels ive ever had the chance to drive!

Really looking forward to test it!

 

[DieH@rd]

Also the G29 seems incomplete to me by having a clutch pedal but no shifter. I wonder how they will market that?

So, for you RS500 [which costs a bit over $580 currently on amazon] is also incomplete?

G27 has a great pedals, and these ones will be upgraded in some way. I count that as great addition to G29. Presence of clutch on them is a good thing, it gives users more freedom to enhance their wheel with optional shifter.

 

[xenorevlis]

Be prepared to get angry then. PS4 support requires physical hardware. Not happening for older wheels.

This may be the official statement, but a steering wheel input for computer hardware is not something crazy or special. It's statistical math being sent out and force feedback / resistance coming back the same way. Logitech were just scaling back and didn't want to pay to update these wheels so they could repackage the innards in a future model and sell if for a large price again. Simple, really.

 

[Jeseus]

My position exactly.

mine too

 

[le-seb]

Well shit. If this isn't the case anymore, maybe they'll work on drivers for PS4 for existing wheels?

Maybe. Maybe not.

Maybe it could masquerade it into thinking it's a G29?

I doubt they could, unless you plug a G29 in lieu of the DS4.
In which case, you wouldn't need this kind of device at all.

Edit: So what does this mean for Thrustmaster, the "official" PS4 wheel manufacturer? Has it been a certain amount of time since the PS4 came out... like it was a one or two-year exclusivity deal?

More like there was no exclusivity deal at all, but no other wheel maker than Thrustmaster was ready coming to the PS4 with a new product before.

 

[foxbeldin]

Yeah... i need to have faith into a manufacturer before i shell out money into a wheel. Right now, with the state of the G27 on PS4/XB1, there's no way i'm gonna trust Logitech with a purchase.

I don't want my wheel to be useless again when the PS5/XB2 come out.

 

[GoonerTRON]

Can I have a wheel that supports PS4, XB1 and PC please?

I like Gran Turismo and Forza...

 

[Business]

Well that came out of nowhere... would be one of the best fakes ever.

Looks decent enough to me if a bit gamey, but convenient. Now let's hope Logitech are decent people and add G25/27 support.

And Driving Force Pro, please!!

Spoiler

Yeah, I'm a cheap arse...

Heh sorry forgot about that one I would guess if we get G25/27 we get DFP too.

 

[amar212]

Can I have a wheel that supports PS4, XB1 and PC please?

I like Gran Turismo and Forza...

You can.

Fanatec CSW V2 base + XboxOne Wheel Rim

 

[Sidewinder]

Well that came out of nowhere... would be one of the best fakes ever.

Looks decent enough to me if a bit gamey, but convenient. Now let's hope Logitech are decent people and add G25/27 support.

And Driving Force Pro, please!!

Spoiler

Yeah, I'm a cheap arse...

 

[hesido]

Maybe. Maybe not.

I hope, if they refuse to add some driver / dongle solution for the existing wheels, that some bright engineer in some part of the world makes a dongle that provides that compatibility. A dongle solution would work best in the interest of Logitech because they could sell it and offload whatever the license cost incurred to the user. If they don't, I'd like to see someone else cash in on it while Logitech watches from the side.

 

[le-seb]

I hope, if they refuse to add some driver / dongle solution for the existing wheels, that some bright engineer in some part of the world makes a dongle that provides that compatibility. A dongle solution would work best in the interest of Logitech because they could sell it and offload whatever the license cost incurred to the user. If they don't, I'd like to see someone else cash in on it while Logitech watches from the side.

The dongle thing [edit: that makes your legacy wheel work like it's a PS4 one] is something you probably will never see, neither from Logitech, nor from anybody else.

That being said, it's not required to offer some support in games.
All they have to do is writing some drivers for the PS4, bringing them to the developers and offering them a bit of support. Thrustmaster and Fanatec have done that before to support their older wheels on the PS4.
Will Logitech show the willingness to do the same? is the true question.

 

[desu]

You can.

Fanatec CSW V2 base + XboxOne Wheel Rim

and for a reasonable price?

If I didn't miss anything the Fanatec sets costs you more than probably two G29 would cost you?

 

[mrklaw]

The dongle thing [edit: that makes your legacy wheel work like it's a PS4 one] is something you probably will never see, neither from Logitech, nor from anybody else.

That being said, it's not required to offer some support in games.
All they have to do is writing some drivers for the PS4, bringing them to the developers and offering them a bit of support. Thrustmaster and Fanatec have done that before to support their older wheels on the PS4.
Will Logitech show the willingness to do the same? is the true question.

My assumption is that this wheel won't be dramatically different from the DFGT and G25/27, so the drivers are likely to also be similar (perhaps even the same on PC).

If that is the case, then by them developing drivers for PS4 for this wheel, they automatically get support for older wheels (or for very little extra cost).

IMO, it would appear that legacy wheel support is more about willingness now, rather than cost. The hardware supports it, they have new wheels to sell. Now do they embrace the community by allowing us to use older wheels - and hope that encourages some people to upgrade, or do they shit on people that bought their hardware before in a vain attempt to force them to buy new wheels?

Fingers crossed.

 

[Memorabilia]

People are going to justifiably lose their collective shit when Logitech/Sony spin some BS about why the G27 isn't going to get PS4 compatibility.

 

[R_thanatos]

People are going to justifiably lose their collective shit when Logitech/Sony spin some BS about why the G27 isn't going to get PS4 compatibility.

I'm already flipping because the G27 is such a great piece of hardware IMO and mine is in perfect condition.

 

[Eirulan]

How about you go fuck yourself Logitech, unless the G27 gets patched for PS4 use then they will never get another £ from me.

This!
They wont see any more money from me in the future...

 

[Afrikan]

seems like the same box under this desk.

 

[johnnyquicknives]

Agreed, if they arent willing to continue supporting the G25/27 at this point why on earth would I trust the G29 not to suffer the same fate?

 

[anx10us]

Agreed, if they arent willing to continue supporting the G25/27 at this point why on earth would I trust the G29 not to suffer the same fate?

Agreed, the whole new console, new wheel is bullshit, no reason not to support any previous wheels, or at least G27/G25.

 

[chrominance]

seems like the same box under this desk.

The box says "Driving Force." That said, the wheel looks like it has the telltale blue stripe at the top and the pedal set is clearly different from the DFGT. The plot thickens.

 

[Pachimari]

I'm still planning on getting the G27, even after this reveal. The G29 looks smaller in size, compared to the G27. But I'll surely have my eyes on it.

 

[mhayze]

Has anyone here tried their G27 with the CronusMaxPlus or its clones? I believe a laptop/PC is required to get them working with a PS4/XBO but I'd be willing to give that a try..

The pics in this thread certainly make this new wheel seem more like Driving Force gt replacement than a g27 replacement.

 

[xptoxyz]

The box says "Driving Force." That said, the wheel looks like it has the telltale blue stripe at the top and the pedal set is clearly different from the DFGT. The plot thickens.

Driving Force could very well be their new branding for driving stuff as I think the other photo has the separate box for the "Driving Force Shifter."

 

[Mascot]

Has anyone here tried their G27 with the CronusMaxPlus or its clones? I believe a laptop/PC is required to get them working with a PS4/XBO but I'd be willing to give that a try..

Rumble not FFB though, no?

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

Amar, is this Gran Turismo Sport thingy the new official GT wheel by Polyphony and Logitech?


Only one Logitech wheel insight in that NFS dev photo. RIP legacy Logitech support.

 

[Jimrpg]

When I got my G27 last year I made a decision then and there that was the only wheel I was getting and that there's plenty of PC sims anyway. The only possible game that's exclusive and really requires a wheel on PS4 is GT7. I can live without a wheel for one game.

As good as driveclub is, it's arcadey nature is perfectly fine without a wheel.

 

[Betta Lines]

I'm still planning on getting the G27, even after this reveal. The G29 looks smaller in size, compared to the G27. But I'll surely have my eyes on it.

It looks the same size to me, possibly slightly bigger (or perhaps a slightly thicker rim).

The pics in this thread certainly make this new wheel seem more like Driving Force gt replacement than a g27 replacement.

When I saw the initial blurry pic I thought the same, as I was concentrating on the buttons that seem to be sourced from the DFGT parts bin, but the clearer image makes the overall design seem more in line with the G27.

It appears to have the same base, the same metal paddles, the same size wheel finished in leather, similar metal three-spoke design, a similar piece above the centre hub probably containing shift lights, and the same pedal design. The only similarity with the DFGT is some of the buttons, everything else is G27.

 

[family_guy]

Agreed, if they arent willing to continue supporting the G25/27 at this point why on earth would I trust the G29 not to suffer the same fate?

You're guaranteed support for the console you bought it for. I understand people not wanting to have keep buying wheels every generation but if it's that big a deal then just play PC racers.