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E3 2015 | Nintendo Digital Event

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GamerJM

Banned
I actually like the spin-offs. If they're killing the Wii U early it should at least have a diverse amount of games even if some of them are low tier. I also like the FE anime pandering since I'm in that demographic, though I think it's totally understandable if you're not happy about it since I know anime tropes don't appeal to everyone.

Otherwise it was definitely poorly paced with no megatons though.
 

Cindro

Member
Treehouse once again showing how people are exaggerating things to hell and back.
The presentation was lame, the games look really neat.
All of these games really do look great. Like, across the board. Even Happy Home Designers and Metroid - the two games I thought looked the weakest in the direct (aside from Skylanders and the AC board game) - are now looking like games I will buy.

These are smaller titles in scope and ambition, stopgaps to ride out to NX no doubt, but for what they are they're looking really enjoyable.

That doesn't mean the direct itself was still anything more than rancid tree rot, though. There was no hype, no sense of bombast to reassure skeptical fans, and nothing to compete with the levels of greatness Microsoft and Sony bought.

In fact, this direct made Nintendo look like nothing more than a supplementary company for gamers who play Xbox/Playstation to use as a secondary resort when nothing is available on their console of choice. I know that has been a common sentiment for a while, but never have I seen Nintendo play so directly into that stereotype that has been created for them.

Again though, next year bombs will be drop. Nintendo E3 2016 HYPE!
 
It would be nice if Nintendo were to reward the loyal customers who bought a Wii U, especially after it would seem they're about to kill it off so soon.

You were already rewarded and add to that starfox, zelda and smtxfe, if thats not enough for you, next time dont buy a nintendo home console until you are sure its getting enough games to warrant your purchase
 

Porcile

Member
The whole Digital Event thing stinks of Nintendo in coasting mode. They've done it before, I'm thinking E3 2007, 2008, 2009 etc They didn't need to do jack shit in those years and their showings reflected that.

This time around, 3DS is steady but probably never going to blow up like DS, It's on the way out but they aren't ready to announce its successor. While console-wise, Wii U performance is lacklustre and never going to recover. I guess they didn't feel the need to really push the boat out this year. Last year was kind of do or die with Bayonetta, Smash and Mario Kart and it didn't work out hugely.
 

faridmon

Member
Very underwhelming showings. The only cool thing about it was Xenoblade Chronicles and Fire Emblem and neither of them were huge surprises. Also, why not make another Super Mario Strikers instead of yet another Super Mario Tennis game, really disappointed by how focused they are on some franchise while neglecting others who are in some cases, superior.
Also, what is Monster Games and Next Level Games working on? Nothing so disappointed. Where is Retro? Didn't they also said that they are moneyhatting some big 3rd Party collaboration? Where is that Pokka fighting game?

The potential was there, instead they had to just underwhelm with them being too safe. Paper Mario X Mario & Luigi? How lazy of them
 

Sendou

Member
This exceeded every expectation I possibly had for how lame it could be.

Just

What were they thinking

Made worse with the puppets lol. They have to understand that a cheeky approach like that only works if rest of the content is going to please the fans. It's never going to replace actual fan pleaser games.
 
Folks here really need to separate bad announcements from bad software lineups.

This was a bad announcement. Nintendo overplayed their hand in 2014 and paid the price for it this year by having to reiterate everything we already knew.

But after the 2014 Digital Event, I pre-ordered four games for the Wii U that all came in the back half of the year: Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, SSB, Captain Toad. All of them ranged from fairly good to stupendous.

After the 2015 Digital Event, I pre-ordered four games for the Wii U that are coming for the back half of this year: Super Mario Maker, Yoshi, Star Fox, Xenoblade. On the face of it, not that much weaker (and that's with skipping the Animal Crossing spin-off and probably Mario Tennis). Granted, last year we had MK8 DLC and the packed-in Bayonetta 1 to keep us company, but this year I know I'm not remotely done with Splatoon.

Admittedly, people not already on board with this console have no reason to get aboard now. But as someone who is a Wii U owner, I'm just not worried. I'll have more than enough to play.

Do things look bleak for 2016? Sure they do: really bleak. Zelda is likely to be bumped (now that we have a confirmation they'll talk NX next year) and SMTxFE, already very niche and divisive, isn't anywhere close to a western release. My Wii U calendar for the first half of 2016 is empty, whereas this year we at least had Kirby and Splatoon. We were told we'd hear about games up to "early" 2016 and there's nothing of interest there. But I'll worry about that when I'm through the backlog of everything out this year.
 

oti

Banned
Nintendo amiibo Board Game

- $20 game on eShop/$40 with 2 amiibo
- amiibo unlock boards, Mario, Animal Crossing etc.
- 1 player = 1 amiibo

Instead we get an Animal Crossing board game.
 

Terrell

Member
I love that Nintendo is already doing damage control. They know they didn't meet expectations this year.

Well, if they're honestly listening and comparing it to last year, the reason it fell flat should become immediately apparent. Which is good.

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*snip*

Yeah, I think a lot of people are on the same page. It's a 2008 to 2009 sort of transition.

The whole thing was just them painting in big red letters on the wall: "We know we failed, let's just get this generation over with."
 

The_Lump

Banned
The Digital Event was badly executed and there wasn't enough for WiiU. But, other than that the games they did show look mostly great.

We shouldn't forget that Nintendo's e3 'conference' is still happening technically over on the Treehouse live stream. And that 'canniblised Metroid game" everyone is slamming is actually looking really cool, as did Starfox.
 
I get that it wasn't Nintendo's best, but there is some massive over-reaction going on. They showed 7 new games, 8 known games in the Digital Event. Granted, they may not be what we want, but there's decent content there. It's not like they came with nothing but casual games.

It was more what those games were, for me. It just seemed as if Nintendo were running out of ideas and there's nothing there that I found really exciting. I wanted to see more stuff like Splatoon, or something along those lines. Everything outside of Star Fox just looked derivative and uninspired.

We got:

- Port of Hyrule Warriors for 3DS.
- A spiritual successor to 4 swords which looks like a slapdash game made from LBW assets.
- An animal crossing/mario party mash up
- Another cheap looking game with the Metroid name slapped on top for whatever reason.
- Yet another mash up of two Nintendo formulas (Mario RPG x Paper Mario)
- And another Mario Tennis game.
- As well as footage of games we've known about for the past 2 years already.

Nintendo's occasional gems like Splatoon etc don't really dismiss their incredibly formulaic and safe line up for me. As someone who's supported them since launch with both the 3DS and Wii U, I just expected more interesting games. Not a bunch of Mario/Animal Cross and Zelda spin offs.
 

Daknight

Member
Man, they should had use the mini-direct and Smash stuff on THIS direct to save it. This was boring to watch. Star Fox had my interest and still does, but everything else was boring.

Kind of expected since they will clearly aim new stuff for NX and they already mention they would be no talk of it or Zelda.
 
All I gotta say is thank God for Kickstarter. Yookulele, Bloodstained and now the possible chance of Shenmue 3 coming to Wii U with stretch goals have kept the platform with some hope of new games in 2016/2017.
 

RedFyn

Member
My reaction as a huge Nintendo Fan for the past 18 years.

Star Fox
-Honestly loved it. My big take away was that this is a real Star Fox game and not some gimmicky episodic thing. With Platinum assisting I have no Doubt that it will be the greatest Star Fox since Star Fox 64. Easily the highlight of the conference.
Skylanders Reveal
-Cool, but not into amiibo/Skylanders
Zelda Triforce Heroes
-Kinda neat, looks like a more fleshed out Four Swords. ALBW was great so this could be good too.
Hyrule Warriors 3DS Port
-Have a 3DS, don’t want to buy. Hopefully the Wind Waker characters come to the Wii U version as DLC
Metroid Prime Federation Force
-Almost insulting. Both Metroid Prime and Next Level games are better than this
Fire Emblem Fates
-Awesome footage and a much better name. I’m excited.
Fire Emblem x SMT
-Can’t find the Fire Emblem or the SMT. Can’t tell what this is supposed to be.
Xenoblade X
-Japanese reception worries me, but the trailer was awesome
Animal Crossing Home Decoration
-Don’t care
Animal Crossing Amiibo Party
-Don’t Care
Yoshi’s Wooly World
-Looks cute, but it’s clearly finished and should’ve been released about 2 months ago
Paper x Mario and Luigi
-Cautiously optimistic, not sure what to think yet
Mario Tennis
-Meh
Mario Maker Montage
-Looks better than it originally did, but not that exciting

Overall I think a lot of these reactions are knee-jerkish. This definitely was better than 2008 and 2012, but overall was disappointing. Overall about a 6.5/10 on par with E3 2009 and better than their E3 2011 showing.
Pretty much how I feel. Plus, I believe everything they showed will be out by spring 2016

I also don't understand why people thought they were going to keep trying to sell the wiiu. Its "dead." There's nothing they could show that would revitalize sales.
 

MouldyK

Member
I think this whole E3 Hype and criticism has turned me off video games quite a bit.


Life was much better and happier before E3 because people didn't butt heads as much or whine about games we barely know much about.
 

The_Lump

Banned
Folks here really need to separate bad announcements from bad software lineups.

This was a bad announcement. Nintendo overplayed their hand in 2014 and paid the price for it this year by having to reiterate everything we already knew.

But after the 2014 Digital Event, I pre-ordered four games for the Wii U that all came in the back half of the year: Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, SSB, Captain Toad. All of them ranged from fairly good to stupendous.

After the 2015 Digital Event, I pre-ordered four games for the Wii U that are coming for the back half of this year: Super Mario Maker, Yoshi, Star Fox, Xenoblade. On the face of it, not that much weaker (and that's with skipping the Animal Crossing spin-off and probably Mario Tennis). Granted, last year we had MK8 DLC and the packed-in Bayonetta 1 to keep us company, but this year I know I'm not remotely done with Splatoon.

Admittedly, people not already on board with this console have no reason to get aboard now. But as someone who is a Wii U owner, I'm just not worried. I'll have more than enough to play.

Do things look bleak for 2016? Sure they do: really bleak. Zelda is likely to be bumped (now that we have a confirmation they'll talk NX next year) and SMTxFE, already very niche and divisive, isn't anywhere close to a western release. My Wii U calendar for the first half of 2016 is empty, whereas this year we at least had Kirby and Splatoon. We were told we'd hear about games up to "early" 2016 and there's nothing of interest there. But I'll worry about that when I'm through the backlog of everything out this year.

Eloquently put. Things aren't nearly as bad as that dire presentation made them seem.
 
I think this year was just straight up saying that developers have moved on to NX and mobile. Wii U software is officially on life support.

Well, relative to what it was before.

Count me as a "Zelda simultaneous launch on NX' believer now.
 
I think this whole E3 Hype and criticism has turned me off video games quite a bit.


Life was much better and happier before E3 because people didn't butt heads as much or whine about games we barely know much about.

I'm 38 and remember people hyping/criticizing games based off of EGM and Nintendo Power screenshots. Gaming has always been like this, you just weren't paying attention.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Nintendo deserves absolutely all of the negativity heading their way after how bad their show was. Hopefully they'll finally understand how out of fucking touch they are with their audience.

We finally get an HD nintendo console and they insist on throwing it in the garbage.
It's really kind of sad this year especially.

I feel like this is the most exciting E3 in over a decade with announcement after announcement of games I'm excited about.

Nintendo should be part of this but, instead, they basically took the year off. :(

I'm 38 and remember people hyping/criticizing games based off of EGM and Nintendo Power screenshots. Gaming has always been like this, you just weren't paying attention.
Yeah, it really hasn't changed. What has changed is how quickly information gets into people's hand.
 
One of the worst E3 shows I've seen. Barely new content, and what they showed either looked dated (Star Fox) or not what I asked for (Metroid Federation Force, Animal Crossing Party).

This is really the last year of Wii U then.
 

MouldyK

Member
I'm 38 and remember people hyping/criticizing games based off of EGM and Nintendo Power screenshots. Gaming has always been like this, you just weren't paying attention.

I know, but E3 is just the worst time because so much things get announced and shut down without people giving it a chance.
 

Altazor

Member
They're showing Mario & Luigi Paper Jam @ Treehouse Live and it looks great, IMHO. One of the few titles I'm really interested in.

plus, Sam Robertson from Treehouse is there and I have such a crush on her <3
 

Addi

Member
I know, but E3 is just the worst time because so much things get announced and shut down without people giving it a chance.

Yeah, some of the games, like the Metroid thing, wouldn't have been as trashed by people if a huge game was announced next to it. It would be like "oh ok, might be fun, might or might not play it", instead of "nintendo, you're ruining my life and pissing on metroid's grave".
 

Apathy

Member
I liked the paper x mario & luigi stuff. Looked fun. Starfox maybe has potential, and Mario Maker was awesome. Oh and yoshi is yoshi so thats all well in good. The rest was a little bland and the metroid prime thing was just a kick in the balls.

Oh mario tennis looked good too
 
It's weird how much they were just saving for Treehouse to talk about.

The digital event had a ridiculous amount of padding. If you weren't going to do new game announcements, at least actually talk about the games.
 

JoeM86

Member
One of the worst E3 shows I've seen. Barely new content, and what they showed either looked dated (Star Fox) or not what I asked for (Metroid Federation Force, Animal Crossing Party).

This is really the last year of Wii U then.

TBF, it was around 50% new game reveals. Hardly barely.
 
I liked the paper x mario & luigi stuff. Looked fun. Starfox maybe has potential, and Mario Maker was awesome. Oh and yoshi is yoshi so thats all well in good. The rest was a little bland and the metroid prime thing was just a kick in the balls.

Oh mario tennis looked good too

Man I just wasn't feeling it with the Paper Mario and Luigi game. I finished Paper Mario Sticker Star, but wasn't able to get through Mario & Luigi: Dream Team. It felt like a chore with so many tutorials I was burnt out halfway through. 5 years ago I would have been thrilled at the concept though
 

Cosmozone

Member
I'm usually still happy about Nintendo showings others complained about, but this time I'm totally in line with them. The only new Wii U game was Mario Tennis? It should've been Strikers so much. Xenoblade release date at least, but it had to be the latest possible to be still in 2015.
The Metroid and Zelda multiplayer games are sure fun, but I'm not a MP person, so that's a letdown. Still not feeling FExSMT and new FE was CG only.

At times like these it's painfully obvious, they're not big enough for a constant stream of games to support their platforms without 3rd party support.
 

Pinky

Banned
I love Nintendo, but that was just bad. REAL bad. Last year was so good. All I wanted was Metroid in glorious HD and we get a 3DS co-op game that looks like it could run on the DS.
 
Paper Mario, Star Fox, Metroid Federation Force, Zelda Trip Force Heros and the 3DS animal crossing spinoff looking good after seeing more footage and information of them on the treehouse. Pretty decent E3 for Nintendo.
 
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