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Fighting Games Weekly | June 29 - Jul 5 | Frauds Among U.S.

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MrDaravon

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The Ultimax patch talk reminded me I need to play that game some before Evo so I have some sort of idea what the fuck is going on. Seems like a lot of people are speculating Atlus' announcement at Evo will be 2.0 related, but who knows if that will be a new disc version or paid or god knows what. Supposedly there's still a bunch of locked/placeholder content on disc even in Japan. As someone new to ASW games and looking at this from the outside it all seems super crazy.
 
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petghost

Banned
N4Us said:
I remember reading about some con last year with a Skullgirls panel that got absolutely packed, and then the Skullgirls tourney they held that weekend had something like 6 entrants.
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This is why it's a good a thing they are making a non fg
 
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Infinite

Member
Anne said:
not how arcades work

Japanese cultural difference on top of a different culture of business.
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It fair to feel the way he does though if you're a loyal customer and the business you're supporting passionately treats your money as secondary.
 
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Karsticles

Member
Anne said:
not how arcades work

Japanese cultural difference on top of a different culture of business.
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Didn't Ultra release simultaneously, or close to?

I am just saying that if ASW wants to become popular, it needs to stop treating the rest of the world as an afterthought. No one wants to practice an outdated game for 6 months. That is how games die.
 
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Professor Beef

Banned
Parallax Scroll said:
Pretty sure they've let people late register every year as long as they're friends with the TOs
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You don't even need to be a friend of the TO. A couple years ago a friend of mine forgot to register, and another friend who already registered talked the TO into letting him late reg. Of course Friend B nearly blew it by showing up when it was done and said "did he buy it?"

He ended up scrubbing out, if you were curious how he did.
 
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Ragingnight

Member
Karsticles said:
Didn't Ultra release simultaneously, or close to?

I am just saying that if ASW wants to become popular, it needs to stop treating the rest of the world as an afterthought. No one wants to practice an outdated game for 6 months. That is how games die.
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funny enough I wanted to ask at the Aksys panel about BB Chrono extend and EVO, but I didn't get a chance.
 
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Lostconfused

Member
Karsticles said:
Didn't Ultra release simultaneously, or close to?

I am just saying that if ASW wants to become popular, it needs to stop treating the rest of the world as an afterthought. No one wants to practice an outdated game for 6 months. That is how games die.
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Thats also how popular games operate in japan and the japanese business is perfectly satisfied with that.

Nobody outside of Capcom cares about the entire rest of the world.
 
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sixteen-bit

Member
Ragingnight said:
o yeah random pic of skullgirls panel line


not my pic. But skullgirls was super popular. Didn't check out Guilty gear but I assume it was just as hot in terms of attendance.
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Sg.gif
 
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Karsticles

Member
Lostconfused said:
Thats also how popular games operate in japan and the japanese business is perfectly satisfied with that.

Nobody outside of Capcom cares about the entire rest of the world.
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They care enough to release the games over here. /shrug

Hopefully these things will change soon.

Master Milk said:
Nintendo is also ass.
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The best, really. Also, best balancing practice of all companies so far. Really impressive.
 
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Dahbomb

Member
Parallax Scroll said:
Yeah I think FChamp is gonna be a tough wall to climb for KBR and Full Schedule. Champ has way too much experience against PR Rog for KBR's inexperienced Wolverine team to be enough of a threat.

Against the field though, I think KBR's Wolverine will be pretty effective. And that's when he even feels the need to switch away from big bodies. He plays it in his normal yolo style which is a great fit for team PR Rog.
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I feel that KBR will only use that team against Zero and Morrigan teams (which destroy big body teams due to their multi-hitting normals and flooding screen with hit box zoning)... MAYBE against FChamp's Magneto team. It's a strong team of course but KBR's Doom and Vergil are lackluster.
 
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FSLink

Banned
Karsticles said:
Also, IMO, the real value of customs was personalizing your character, not countering bad Matchups. I think Mario's fireball custom is probably the best idea of this. Default fireball is ideal for approaching, while the little version is ideal for harassing. Neither is necessarily better in any particular matchup, but different Mario players might have different preferences. If customs were all like that, it would be an incredible feature to have in the game.

Counterpicks are likely not good for the game. Mega man, for example, does not normally have a reflector. With customs, he does. Since no projectile character gains an anti-reflect through customs, this gives Mega man an inherently unfair advantage through customs. Samus, for example, can fight Mega man with defaults by powering up her Charge Shot, which destroys all of MMs projectiles. This creates an interesting dynamic between the two characters. It creates pressure. What the hell is Samus supposed to do against MM with a reflector?
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Mario actually has a better fireball for certain matchups. You don't want to use the fast fireball if the opponent is very aerial based for example, against Yoshi it's not as effective.

For the reflector, MM's can't reflect past 25%, so Samus can actually shoot through the Charge Shot when it's fresh.
 
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CurlyW

Member
Dieminion, Flux, Neo, Yipes, NeoGaf's own Clockwork, and plenty of others have all been able to pay the emergency registration price for Evo (which is $100 or more) and get into the bracket on site.

Look at the UMvC3 Top 16 bracket from last year's Evo: http://evo2014.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/mvc3_n41.html The bye that beats Flux and JDM is Yipes. The bye that beats Em Pony and Full Schedule is Clockwork.

True story: Evo 2013 a friend of mine was in a Marvel pool with Ranmasama. Then Flux gets added to that pool. My friend finishes 3rd in the pool, losing to Flux twice. (The pool bracket for that pool: http://evo2013.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/mvc3_l7.html)

Meanwhile, the pool that was happening right next door at the same time as that one had two bye slots and was won freely by JJJ. (http://evo2013.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/mvc3_l8.html)
 
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Ragingnight

Member
yeah evo always had those late comers. They don't float once the tournament starts but they do change things around from what is posted online.
 
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Tripon

Member
I remember LTG saying he had to pay $160 for late reg for Ultra, so there is late regging this year. The TOs might let Marm do it since he is always saying he has no money, he's in Asia, and he's raising a stink instead of emailing Wizard about it.
 
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Parallax Scroll

Banned
Dahbomb said:
I feel that KBR will only use that team against Zero and Morrigan teams (which destroy big body teams due to their multi-hitting normals and flooding screen with hit box zoning)... MAYBE against FChamp's Magneto team. It's a strong team of course but KBR's Doom and Vergil are lackluster.
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His Doom and Vergil have no fear, which doesn't work against everyone but it works a lot of the time.
 
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