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[Neff]

Shenmue III is two years away at least. If Sega is legally able to port the first two, they'll do it, albeit closer to the release of Shenmue III as anticipation builds.

Yes. I think our next logical step is hurassing SEGA the right way. Basically, we want Shenmue I & II with updated controls, Game-Transfer to Shenmue III, uncompressed sound, and with these Remastered graphics (of course, colour correction will be required):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWhauvTOWY

We'll get 60fps, a save transfer feature, and be happy with it. The rest will require an obscene amount of work and I suspect Sega just won't think it's worth it.

Assuming they still have the code.

They won't need it. They'll just reverse-engineer the game disc, as is the norm for ports and remasters.

 

[Nightengale]

Assuming they still have the code.

Just port an emulator if that's the case. =/

 

[N.A]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

 

[flipswitch]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

I wouldn't care if they didn't re-touch things, like improve textures and so on. Even 30fps would be fine, but 60fps would be sweet. I would love it on Vita too.

 

[Slaythe]

Getting annoyed at people demanding not just a port, but graphics and gameplay overhaul.

Why not redo the audio too ?

Completely unrealistic,not only would it alter the games, they obviously don't have this kind of budget for a remaster.

Also a remaster wouldn't be for the fans only. But mostly for people new to the series.

So "I d totally pay 60 bucks" is completely irelevant. Hell most fans would pay even 100.

The price has to be realistic for the market.

Anything over 40 and it would bomb hard.

 

[SuperInuit]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

I've never played a Shenmue game, but that does look fantastic aside from the low res textures.

 

[Infinite_Daremo]

I've never played the originals but would love to try them. I kickstarted the new game but would love to try the originals. I contemplated buying a Dreamcast for £15 just to try it once.

I'd definitely back a HD remaster.

 

[hunterst]

dual audio is all i want after playing the kogami undub

 

[flipswitch]

Have sega ever responded on the possibility of a remaster of SH1/2?

 

[Neff]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Man, I would be totally all over that. I'd happily pay £20 apiece.

 

[Haunted]

Maybe Sega is waiting with the rerelease until Shenmue III has a release date (~2018).

If they still exist outside of mobile at that time, of course.

 

[Aselith]

Gerstmann was right

 

[GitarooMan]

Gerstmann was right

Lol, I pledged, but I've been thinking the same exact thing the last few days.

 

[Nightengale]

Have sega ever responded on the possibility of a remaster of SH1/2?

SEGA hasn't even ever acknowledged Shenmue 3 in any shape or form in the past month.

Gerstmann was right

You calling me a fool? /jk

 

[TheSecondSpitter]

Getting annoyed at people demanding not just a port, but graphics and gameplay overhaul.

Why not redo the audio too ?

Completely unrealistic,not only would it alter the games, they obviously don't have this kind of budget for a remaster.

Also a remaster wouldn't be for the fans only. But mostly for people new to the series.

So "I d totally pay 60 bucks" is completely irelevant. Hell most fans would pay even 100.

The price has to be realistic for the market.

Anything over 40 and it would bomb hard.

The nearest precedent is the ICO/SotC Collection and that sold well at full price. And I'm willing to bet a lot more people played the original that than they did Shenmue 1&2.

 

[Benclank01]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

I would say the game series still looks good, but if SEGA and YsNet might possibly be in control of remastering the whole series. Here's my prediction. All they need is to do, like Grim Fandango Remastered, better textures and better lighting but in Shenmue I/II HD, better models and all of these needs to be in supervision of Yu Suzuki on how to handle a remastered version of Shenmue I/II.

 

[R10Neymarfan]

Sega just needs to contact NocoonKid give him a small team and some source code and have at finishing this HD remaster.

Then reorchestrate the music

 

[AlteredBeast]

Forgive me, but I thought Yu Suzuki made it very clear that he'd spoken to SEGA about this but the decision was ultimately in their hands. On that basis I don't think it's entirely fair to bring that up.

The reasoning is irrelevant. It is a fact that it would have helped the campaign. Obviously Yu Suzuki tried to get it done, but, as with Shenmue III, the HD ports are probably in our hands, now! Not issuing blame, just pointing out the obvious.

I will be tweeting and retweeting #ShenmueHD routinely until we get an answer. I invite everyone to do the same.

 

[Fisty]

We need Bluepoint, Hexadrive, or Blitworks in the job. Will tweet whatever template GAF agrees on.

Maybe add Blitworks to the tweet, they have already expressed interest in the project, not to mention ability

 

[JonathanNemo]

Forgive me, but I thought Yu Suzuki made it very clear that he'd spoken to SEGA about this but the decision was ultimately in their hands. On that basis I don't think it's entirely fair to bring that up.

I was fairly certain that Suzuki reiterated during last night's stream that we should make our voices known for Sega to greenlight remasters. I'd have to check the stream again to be sure. Can't say I remember too much!

Formal requests between executives present and former are good, sure, but customer demand helps quite a bit more. And it's not like Sega has given everything Yu Suzuki wants so far over the past 14 years.

Speaking of, thank whatever higher power is responsible for convincing Sega management to allow Suzuki the right to create a Kickstarter funded Shenmue 3. It's still a smidge surreal that this is happening at all.

 

[ozz ex machina]

Gerstmann was right

yes, yes, yes.

Some of the messaging in this thread is gross.

 

[danwarb]

yes, yes, yes.

Some of the messaging in this thread is gross.

Where is that?

 

[DigtialT]

They have no power over the creation of remaster though so that was kinda stupid of you

I didn't expect it from Yu, I was hoping SEGA would. It was just unfortunate circumstance that SEGA decided against doing it or announcing sooner before the kickstarted ended.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Gerstmann was right

I don't know what this means.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Despite it being segas fault the lack of being able to play 1&2 without having to go through hoops was a big part as to why I didn't back it.

 

[Altazor]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

never played Shenmue but I think that looks great, aside from some obvious low-res textures and flat lighting.

 

[lordfuzzybutt]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

That looks surprisingly great.

 

[Mimosa97]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

This looks great. I would pay 40-50$ for this. Day One.

People who want a complete remaster are delusional. How do you go from " Please Sega release Shenmue on PC/newer platforms " to " I'll only buy it if they remake the game completely or I won't spend one cent ! " Ugh ....

Wake up.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

The games look ok, but newcomers/newer gamers are going to tear the gameplay and controls to shreds.

 

[Maligna]

The games look ok, but newcomers/newer gamers are going to tear the gameplay and controls to shreds.

It needs dual analogue support at the very least.

 

[bengraven]

Dual sticks and I would say maybe a new voice actor for Ryu, but that's pushing it.

I'll accept dual sticks and maybe a first person mode.

But please make it happen. I could go for some Lucky Hit.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

I'm in, with my twitter and my time for a shenmueHD collection.I need it.

We have to send tweets to sega about that.

 

[Steverulez]

This might be a stupid thing to say, especially as Sega won't view it like this but they should focus on getting more people to play the games rather than charging a high price for the remasters.

They should be $15, maybe $20 each. A pack for $30 with both in or something would be better. Charging high prices is the easiest way to fuck them up and have no-one play them.

 

[Nightengale]

This might be a stupid thing to say, especially as Sega won't view it like this but they should focus on getting more people to play the games rather than charging a high price for the remasters.

They should be $15, maybe $20 each. A pack for $30 with both in or something would be better. Charging high prices is the easiest way to fuck them up and have no-one play them.

With Shenmue 3 being $29 dollars at the lowest it's made available (digitally), I think that puts SEGA's potential pricing at a ceiling.

 

[Glitchesarecool]

Did you guys really need another Shenmue thread talking about another attempted twitter campaign?

Gerstmann was right indeed.

 

[yazanov]

Shenmue 1 & 2 HD kickstarter . lets do this!

Fall 2016 release date.

 

[Maligna]

Did you guys really need another Shenmue thread talking about another attempted twitter campaign?

Gerstmann was right indeed.

What is this in reference to?

 

[Sectorseven]

The community needs to clarify exactly what it wants. Does "HD" mean straight up emulated versions of the originals, or full on remasters (or both, like the Halo 2 remaster)? While I'm sure everyone would settle for emulation, I think for this series to draw in new players it needs a considerable overhaul in certain areas, the most noteworthy being the controls.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Did you guys really need another Shenmue thread talking about another attempted twitter campaign?

Gerstmann was right indeed.

Yes, we do!! And if you don't understand why, then you never will. This is about the best possible outcome for the series. Without easy access of the old games for new players you are automatically driving away a large potential group of customers. This in turn means far fewer sales, resulting in a potential Shenmue IV in jeopardy scenario that is my nightmare.

Honestly, is it that hard to understand?

 

[Robert at Zeboyd Games]

The important question you should also ask is what is the ideal price point for Shenmue 1+2 HD. Cuz with all the hype and praise S1+2 got, if an HD remaster would b released, what price would get people to even buy it?

It depends on if you're selling these to existing fans (in which case you can price gouge) or trying to reach new people. If you're trying to reach new people, then $15 per game is pretty much the highest you can go. $20 for the collection would be best IMO.

 

[JonathanNemo]

Maybe they mean the part where Gerstmann said "it's a fucking bullshit forklift simulator for assholes"?

Gerstmann says many things. I can't tell what these people are smugly agreeing with.

Not the man's best moment, anyway.

 

[Fisty]

Maybe they mean the part where Gerstmann said "it's a fucking bullshit forklift simulator for assholes"?

Gerstmann says many things. I can't tell what these people are smugly agreeing with.

Not the man's best moment, anyway.

Wow this guy is can be worse than the worst that GAF has to offer. And he gets paid for this.

 

[border]

Gerstmann was right

What did Gerstmann say?

 

[Social]

Maybe they mean the part where Gerstmann said "it's a fucking bullshit forklift simulator for assholes"?

Gerstmann says many things. I can't tell what these people are smugly agreeing with.

Not the man's best moment, anyway.

it's about him saying this will just be chapter X of X in the grand scheme of things etc...

 

[IbizaPocholo]

The community needs to clarify exactly what it wants. Does "HD" mean straight up emulated versions of the originals, or full on remasters (or both, like the Halo 2 remaster)? While I'm sure everyone would settle for emulation, I think for this series to draw in new players it needs a considerable overhaul in certain areas, the most noteworthy being the controls.

I want the original versions emulated in 1080p nothing more nothing less.No remasters/remakes something very cheap to produce for sega.A remaster/remake would be a huge investment for sega.

 

[SpotAnime]

This is what an untouched Shenmue I/II looks like at 1080p/60fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zB-R-Dbw8

Personally I think it looks gorgeous but I'd be interested to hear what those who didn't play I/II think.

Absolutely agree. I just replayed Shemue II on DC via VGA and upscaled to 1080p and it looked fantastic. I wouldn't have imagined it being a 14 year old game if I didn't know any better.

All they need to do is enable a 1080p resolution with the original assets. The game will look good enough.

 

[border]

Gertsmann is funny and bombastic -- I wouldn't take him that seriously though. He hates Yoshi.

 

[Glitchesarecool]

Maybe they mean the part where Gerstmann said "it's a fucking bullshit forklift simulator for assholes"?

He's also said that the fans have had very bizarre behavior including death threats, especially following reviews of the games.

Honestly, is it that hard to understand?

But the continual bashing in/forcing of the Shenmue name, don't you think that's somewhat detrimental as well? Also, even with a campaign, a remake/relrelease will not draw in new fans on its own, it would need to basically redo the controls of Shenmue and possibly some mechanics. You would need a remaster, which needs another studio and probably another KS.

Side note, why do you think there would be a Shenmue 4?

I'm not trying to be a bad guy, your dedication to the franchise is understandable, but it feels like there's a new Shenmue thread almost every day that largely boil down to the same thing.

 

[danwarb]

He's also said that the fans have had very bizarre behavior including death threats, especially following reviews of the games.

Whaaaaaat? These games came out before 2002, to very positive reviews.

 

[Coxy]

if we're doing this, maybe involve blitworks, JSRF and skies of arcadia hd too?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1079501