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[Lord of Castamere]

That was a great trailer. THE MUSIC Day 1.

 

[More_Badass]

" Hey, let's make The Godfather 4 a romantic comedy about an ageing man who is a young teenager's godfather and they all go on silly adventures, because, you know, the word "godfather" means the same thing here as well "

I couldn't come up with a more silly comparison, but it's basically the same thing.

Yeah, sorry, no. Not even remotely the same thing

 

[jmood88]

" Hey, let's make The Godfather 4 a romantic comedy about an ageing man who is a young teenager's godfather and they all go on silly adventures, because, you know, the word "godfather" means the same thing here as well "

I couldn't come up with a more silly comparison, but it's basically the same thing.

There is absolutely nothing valid about that comparison.

 

[MMaRsu]

Not my cup of tea. Looks too much like an open world shooter instead of a real maffia game.

And yes to italian mobsters please. Not interested in the black maffia.

I agree with Red Hood here. Does everyone need to be excited? Nope. I was hoping they would explode the options they gave us with Vito and make it into a full fledged game instead of just story stuff.

 

[BlackJace]

Wait

When did the term Mafia exclusively mean "Italian Mafia"?

Some of you do know that there are a bevy of Mafias that go into different areas/nationalities right?

You might as well just say you want your criminals to be white men in suits and be done with it.

Talk to em

 

[HighResTomato]

I'm a member friend, all my life.
Complete with various nick names like:

White boy
High Yellow
Red man (before it was a thing)
Redbone
Brightman (not to be confused with Brightness)

Hope this helps.

Oh I know those terms, just wasn't aware that there is such a divide between light and dark skinned African Americans, having different societies.

 

[Sasie]

You might as well just say you want your criminals to be white men in suits and be done with it.


...No, it isn't the same thing. Wtf?

The suits parts is pretty much true but really I wouldn't have liked it to be the irish either. I dropped GTA for similar reasons ages ago. I want the glamour mixed with violence that eventually makes everything go to hell. Most of the classical mafia movies are about the italians, Goodfellas and the like.

I wouldn't been happy with it going to Asia either but anyway not going to be hugely upset over this. It's not a genre I play a lot so passing Mafia 3 won't trouble me too much.

 

[spindashing]

but none of them are remotely as interesting and captivating as the Italian/Sicilian kind to me, which is why this reveal has been extremely disappointing.

Why is that? Shit comes in different colors and smells but it's still shit.

And yes to italian mobsters please. Not interested in the black maffia.

At least you are honest.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

You guys are dismissing the idea of a black mafia without even giving it a chance. Other races have mafias too. We have the Yakuza and the triad. I don't want another Godfather I welcome this change.

 

[shadowhunter89]

I am cautiously optimistic about this, it could be good, or really bad..

 

[michaelius]

Meh if I wanted GTA clone I'd have bought GTA.

Bargain bin sale maybe for me.

 

[jmood88]

Wait

When did the term Mafia exclusively mean "Italian Mafia"?

Some of you do know that there are a bevy of Mafias that go into different areas/nationalities right?

Since people watched some movies and decided that mafia and Italian are synonyms. This is exactly why diversity in popular entertainment is important. People only get exposed to one thing, then think that whatever they keep seeing is the only example.

 

[FadedRevolution]

why would racial problems in a mafia game, escpecially one set in this era, be bad?

Because he has to play a black character. You know he can't relate to that.

 

[MMaRsu]

Wait

When did the term Mafia exclusively mean "Italian Mafia"?

Some of you do know that there are a bevy of Mafias that go into different areas/nationalities right?

No it doesnt. But thats what most fans of the Mafia games were hoping/looking forward to.

 

[Red Hood]

...No, it isn't the same thing. Wtf?

It is nowhere near the same thing. You're just being ridiculous now so I'm just going to leave this paticular topic.

You might as well just say you want your criminals to be white men in suits and be done with it.


...No, it isn't the same thing. Wtf?

Yeah, sorry, no. Not even remotely the same thing

There is absolutely nothing valid about that comparison.

What? Why not?? I mean it's not like The Godfather 1 and 2 for example already set a certain vision that you can expect in sequels, right? Oh wait--

 

[Benclank01]

So, despite of people complaining about the graphics and its story premise, I would say that Mafia III might be delayed to Spring 2017 and I think it would be probably because of more polishiness, more in-depth storytelling to tell more about the characters and the graphical vision.

That's my prediction, folks, if they're willing to make a slightly different take on the Mafia franchises to make it a good game. Not a great game, a good game.

 

[Zoned]

Wait

When did the term Mafia exclusively mean "Italian Mafia"?

Some of you do know that there are a bevy of Mafias that go into different areas/nationalities right?



Talk to em

Well the original term always referred to Italian/Sicilian mafia. Now the term has been expanded.

 

[grandwizard]

Since people watched some movies and decided that mafia and Italian are synonyms. This is exactly why diversity in popular entertainment is important. People only get exposed to one thing, then think that whatever they keep seeing is the only example.

Nailed it.

 

[soundahfekz]

I for one wanted italians, might sound bad but for me the mafia is the Godfather or if in Asia the Triads. Even Mafia 2 annoyed me a bit because we played at the edge of the family affairs instead of being part of it for most of the game.

When I play a criminal I want it to be something like the Godfather or A Bronx Tale. Not that interested in playing a character involved in street gangs.

Not my cup of tea. Looks too much like an open world shooter instead of a real maffia game.

And yes to italian mobsters please. Not interested in the black maffia.

GTA: SA thread part 2

 

[spindashing]

The suits parts is pretty much true but really I wouldn't have liked it to be the irish either. I dropped GTA for similar reasons ages ago. I want the glamour mixed with violence that eventually makes everything go to hell. Most of the classical mafia movies are about the italians, Goodfellas and the like.

I wouldn't been happy with it going to Asia either but anyway not going to be hugely upset over this. It's not a genre I play a lot so passing Mafia 3 won't trouble me too much.

You say this as if stories that tell the tale of other races being involved with gangs/crimes cannot fit this bill...

 

[Red Blaster]

i can only relate with white murderers

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Oh wow. This thread is starting to remind me of the GTA SA reveal thread. Not a good turn.

 

[MMaRsu]

What? Why not?? I mean it's not like The Godfather 1 and 2 for example already set a certain vision that you can expect in sequels, right? Oh wait--

Dont worry about it. It seems some people are quick to jump to conclusions.

You have no interest in playing the black mafia in the 60's, neither do I.

Well I would, but not in a game called Mafia 3 where I was very much looking forward to continue Vito's life story.

 

[RocketRacoon]

My bad for derailing the thread, but it looks like it has promise. Loved Mafia 2.

 

[Rollo Lawson]

Look at the liberals, yall. Replace the word black with gay in this thread and half the posters in here would be banned already.

 

[Machinehead]

The footage looks kinda.....arcadey? What happened to Mafia landing on the more serious, realistic side of open world crime action games? The cars flipping and blowing up + catching on fire from seemingly every hit, the way he dives out of the muscle car, the ramp at a police roadblock to jump over it, the gratuitous knife kill, popping off grenade launchers in the middle of the street in broad day....What? le sigh. I was really hoping this was going to be a situation where car chases were heavy and realistic, and combat was raw and powerful without being over the top.

Still looking forward to what they can do with the setting and these characters, but I can't say I'm really excited for the tone of the gameplay they showed.

Yep. When he talked about authenticity during the interview, the scene where he rams the car and it flips and explodes just popped into my mind and I laughed internally.

I was expecting something a lot more grounded.


EDIT: The gratuitous knife kill didn't phase me, though. This kind of shit happens in criminal organisations here sometimes. Who knows what is the context. Everything else, though, is a bit too much for me.

 

[ironcreed]

You guys are dismissing the idea of a black mafia without even giving it a chance. Other races have mafias too. We have the Yakuza and the triad. I don't want another Godfather I welcome this change.

I think it looks brilliant and is a needed change of pace from the usual cliches. And the NOLA setting in the 60's is the icing and cherry.

 

[MHWilliams]

I couldn't come up with a more silly comparison, but it's basically the same thing.

At least you know it's a silly comparison. And, no it's not the same thing.

For 2K, the Mafia series is about crime families.

2K today officially revealed Mafia III, the next installment in the popular series known for immersing players into a world of organized crime through rich narrative storytelling and beautifully crafted game worlds.

They're sorry you misunderstood.

 

[Scotia]

You guys are dismissing the idea of a black mafia without even giving it a chance. Other races have mafias too. We have the Yakuza and the triad. I don't want another Godfather I welcome this change.

My thoughts exactly. God forbid 2K/Hangar 13 actually try something new with this genre.

 

[MMaRsu]

GTA: SA thread part 2

Please gtfo and stop jumping to conclusions. I think franklin is my most played gtav character.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

As long as I can still wear a trench coat over a suit, I'm good. That was my favorite thing about Mafia 2, and I loved that game.

 

[Red Hood]

Why is that? Shit comes in different colors and smells but it's still shit.


At least you are honest.

Your response to MMaRsu implies that somehow I'm not being honest? It's like I said, I don't know why all other organised crimes are uninteresting to me, whether they're black, white, or whatever, they never have had the same sense of "feel" compared to the other organised crime in fiction. Stuff like The Godfather and Goodfellas shit on all other organised crime fiction from such a height it's not even funny, and I've come to expect certain things after two instalments from Mafia.

 

[BlackJace]

No it doesnt. But thats what most fans of the Mafia games were hoping/looking forward to.

So, fans of a series plainly named Mafia (not Italian Mafia) expect explicitly Italian Mafia stories going forward?

Even though I just explained to you that nothing about the term or concept of a Mafia is exclusive to Italy?

 

[mckmas8808]

Hmm they're actually going to address the racial issues of the time (and heck which are still going on)

I feel they've hedged their bets with a mixed race main character obviously going for the is he or isn't Vin Diesel effect. Although it's good to know from the video that even that will be commented on.

Nobody cared if you were mixed. You were/are still black so they can still tackle the issues.

 

[More_Badass]

What? Why not?? I mean it's not like The Godfather 1 and 2 for example already set a certain vision that you can expect in sequels, right? Oh wait--

Subtly expanding "Mafia" from a series about the Italian Mafia to series about mafias isn't remotely the same as trying to compare the Italian Mafia defintion of "Godfather" to familial relationship definition of "godfather"

 

[MMaRsu]

So, fans of a series plainly named Mafia (not Italian Mafia) expect explicitly Italian Mafia stories going forward?

Yes.

Seeing as previous games focused on italian mafia.

Whats so hard to understand lol

 

[BlackJace]

Please gtfo and stop jumping to conclusions. I think franklin is my most played gtav character.

lmao next level "I have a black friend"

 

[Rulp]

Concept is fresh, original, and exciting. Hope the game play is not generic. Loved Mafia II, Hoping this will be great too.

 

[Scotia]

lmao next level "I have a black friend"

lol so true

Getting San Andreas reveal thread vibes here. Like others have said this is basically part 2 of that thread.

 

[Hip Hop]

Please gtfo and stop jumping to conclusions. I think franklin is my most played gtav character.

Is this the "But I have black friends" of the Mafia 3 reveal?

Spoiler

EDIT: Beaten lol

 

[Xaero Gravity]

lmao next level "I have a black friend"

Oh for fuck's sake. That's my cue to gtfo of this thread. I think this is about to get extremely ugly.

 

[cripterion]

Every Mafia game? Yes.

And if you have new ideas dump it in a new IP.

But that's the thing, Mafia doesn't have to be about the Italian Mob exclusively. Or else they could go on making, Cosa Nostra : The Game.

Hell, I wish other devs diversified and made a game with the Russian Mob, gives us Eastern Promises vibes.

 

[MMaRsu]

lmao next level "I have a black friend"

Why? Dude was claiming or insinuating im somehow a racist because of my comments? Like I dont enjoy playing as a black character or I cant relate?

I was countering that by saying Franklin os my most played gtav character. Not sure whats wrong with that. I aint no racist.

but if people want to assume and insinuate instead of having a conversation thats fine

 

[BlackJace]

Yes.

Seeing as previous games focused on italian mafia.

Whats so hard to understand lol

I can't believe I still have to explain this.

This was never a series that was exclusively about the Italian Mafia. Never. Ever.

The first two games were of the Italian Mafia, great. Our next two could be of the Dixie Mafia, the next could be about the Russian Mafia.

Do you see how the game is still about the fucking Mafia in the end?

 

[TalonJH]

I'm a member friend, all my life.
Complete with various nick names like:

White boy
High Yellow
Red man (before it was a thing)
Redbone
Brightman (not to be confused with Brightness)

Hope this helps.

Not sure what interview I watched this morning but they said being mixed race will play into the story. He is treated as different by some black characters and as black by white characters. That's why the killing of his new family is such a big deal. He finally found somewhere he belongs and BLAM...all alone again.

 

[MMaRsu]

I can't believe I still have to explain this.

This was never a series that was exclusively about the Italian Mafia. Never. Ever.

The first two games were of the Italian Mafia, great. Our next two could be of the Dixie Mafia, the next could be about the Russian Mafia.

Do you see how the game is still about the fucking Mafia in the end?

It seems you dont understand expectations in a multiple game series. You dont need to explain jack shit, I know what you are saying. But people cant be dissapointed that its not going to focus on Italian mobsters?

Maybe Halo 6 should be about the fucking birds and bees on another Halo planet. Its still about HALO after all.

 

[Scotia]

If this series was called 'Italian Mafia' I'd understand some of these comments, but it's not.

I swear to God, some of you act like change is the Bubonic Plauge reading some of these posts.

 

[spindashing]

Your response to MMaRsu implies that somehow I'm not being honest? It's like I said, I don't know why all other organised crimes are uninteresting to me, whether they're black, white, or whatever, they never have had the same sense of "feel" compared to the other organised crime in fiction. Stuff like The Godfather and Goodfellas shit on all other organised crime fiction from such a height it's not even funny, and I've come to expect certain things after two instalments from Mafia.

I'm getting a "I don't know" from you in comparison to MMaRsu who plainly admitted why he did not like the game. You making a grandiose comparison a few posts ago to a romantic comedy or whatever did not help your case either.

I still never got why in fact you prefer one form of organised crime to another. It's really interesting and sort of scary that people can admit to liking one form of organised crime to another, to be honest. What feel? Doing stupid shit and running away from the law? Because stories like New Jack City deal with the same things.

 

[MMaRsu]

If this series was called 'Italian Mafia' I'd understand some of these comments, but it's not.

I swear to God, some of you act like change is the Bubonic Plauge reading some of these posts.

They dont, but please keep assuming so.

I think maybe you should read some good reasons why people are bummed this isnt going to focus on italian mobs.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Your response to MMaRsu implies that somehow I'm not being honest? It's like I said, I don't know why all other organised crimes are uninteresting to me, whether they're black, white, or whatever, they never have had the same sense of "feel" compared to the other organised crime in fiction. Stuff like The Godfather and Goodfellas shit on all other organised crime fiction from such a height it's not even funny, and I've come to expect certain things after two instalments from Mafia.

The same could be said about gta and San Andreas ended up being one of the best games in the series.

And just because there hasn't been an award winning movie about other mafia groups it doesn't make them less interesting. Sleeping Dogs showed us a glimpse of the Triad and that game is almost universally loved, many people saying it's a breath of fresh air after gta only focusing in America and largely on Italian style mafia.

Give me a cartel, triad, Yakuza title any say of the fucking week. I'm tired of Italian mobs.