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Atlus USA responds to question on PC Persona 5 release, sounds unlikely

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Nirolak

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Might be because the games are kind of in a weird spot there. There's no definitive version of Persona 3, so a port is unlikely. Persona 4 Golden is Vita exclusive right now. And it's entirely possible they might be worried about piracy and/or don't think there is a market and/or there are technical issues regarding Persona 5. To say nothing of the older titles.

It does seem like a missed opportunity, you're right. Especially in light of the Falcom and NIS games up there on Steam.

Ignoring ASP for a moment, here's some of the bigger selling Japanese titles on Steam along with some more niche titles, so both are available for comparison:

Dark Souls Owners: 2,026,674 ± 35,599
Dark Souls 2 Owners: 1,001,616 ± 25,077 (plus Scholars Owners: 298,982 ± 13,720)
Final Fantasy VII Owners: 885,060 ± 23,578
Cave Story+ Owners: 719,473 ±21,266
Final Fantasy VIII Owners: 439,806 ± 16,636
Valkyria Chronicles Owners: 478,273 ± 17,347
Metal Gear Rising Owners: 486,692 ± 17,498
MGS Ground Zeroes Owners: 431,221 ± 16,473
Final Fantasy XIII Owners: 416,198 ± 16,184
Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale Owners: 412,071 ±16,103
NARUTO SHIPPUDEN: Ultimate Ninja STORM 3 Full Burst Owners: 407,118 ±16,007
Dragon Ball XenoVerse Owners: 319,454 ±14,181 (Notably has went on pretty reserved sales so far)
Long Live The Queen Owners: 294,030 ±13,606
Final Fantasy XIII-2 Owners: 224,195 ± 11,882
Ys Origins Owners: 220,563 ±11,786
Sakura Spirit Owners: 197,120 ± 11,142
Agarest: Generations of War Owners: 169,055 ±10,319
Chantelise Owners: 168,724 ±10,309
Neptunia Owners: 162,286 ± 10,111
Dynasty Warriors 8 Owners: 153,371 ± 9,829
Go! Go! Nippon! ~My First Trip to Japan~ Owners: 123,654 ± 8,826

It's hard for me to sit there and imagine there isn't an audience for at least late ports of their older games.

That said, I'd say the same thing about porting Persona 4 Golden to other platforms as well, and I've already played through it on Vita.
 

4Tran

Member
That really doesn't have anything to do with Atlus though. They're operating like they always have. Notice that they still publish their own games rather than Sega doing it. "Sega" hasn't been releasing much of anything lately, while Atlus has a fairly steady stream of game releases.
While Sega mostly leaves Atlus alone, it's also obvious that the corporate heads talk to each other. And given Sega's heavy PC focus, talking about Atlus releases on PC is likely to be one of their prime topics of discussion.
 
These figures don't seem impressive, like, at all.

Barely 400k, despite occasional discounts, and not to mention the noticeable drop-off for the sequel too.

Lightning Returns will probably take forever just to reach 200k.

They also came out years after the people interested in playing them would have likely already done so on PS3 or Xbox 360. It would be interesting to see a platform split on a JRPG that actually releases on PC at around the same time as console, I think Tales of Zestiria is one of the first doing so?
 
While Sega mostly leaves Atlus alone, it's also obvious that the corporate heads talk to each other. And given Sega's heavy PC focus, talking about Atlus releases on PC is likely to be one of their prime topics of discussion.

Is it or is it simply something you're hoping is a topic of discussion? There's really nothing to suggest at all that Atlus, the Japanese arm, is going to start making or having their games released on PC aside from that hope that Sega's going to suddenly make them release them on it.
 

Sophia

Member
It's hard for me to sit there and imagine there isn't an audience for at least late ports of their older games.

That said, I'd say the same thing about porting Persona 4 Golden to other platforms as well, and I've already played through it on Vita.

Yeah, we both know that there's an audience. But does Atlus see it that way? That's the million dollar question none of us can answer. :S
 

Pennywise

Member
Well now that you mention it I am reminded that I do own a PSTV(and PS3) and did play Persona 4 Golden on it. How does P3P stack up to P3 FES?

I'm no fan of P3P.
Starting with the ridicilous price differences.
P3P costs about 30€ on EU store, which is quite a hefty sum compared to the 10€ for PE3 FES.
FES got more content and is visually alot more appealing.
Watch some videos, it's sadly nowhere near to the quality the delievered with P4 Golden.
 
Persona 5, while being new and shiny, I'd rather we saw more older Atlus titles being ported to PC.

Actually I'd really like it if they released SMT1 on PC. The only official translation of this game is on iOS. Just iOS. It feels a bit wasted on there. I bought it, played it and enjoyed it. I'd like for it to see a wider audience. Throwing it up on Steam for cheap to me sounds like a neat idea.
 

Jigorath

Banned
Siliconera (July 2014):

One month later, and Persona 5 was announced for the PS4.

They could still have deals in place with Sony, but if you're going to suggest an exclusivity deal here, you're going to have to do that when it comes to all games that are released on a single manufacturer's platforms.

A reasonable enough reply. Atlus got assistance from SEGA. Okay. I would still expect Sony had a hand in getting Atlus to do a PS4 version simply because they need the help in Japan and probably offered some nice incentives.

They could still have deals in place with Sony, but if you're going to suggest an exclusivity deal here, you're going to have to do that when it comes to all games that are released on a single manufacturer's platforms.

No I don't. That's absurd. Persona 5 is a game that has potential to sell 2m copies worldwide. It's not some uber niche visual novel that's going to clear 50k in Japan. It shouldn't be a shocking development that a company would try to lock down exclusivity on a title like this. Of course, judging by Atlus' history with PC games it also wouldn't be a surprise if they simple don't want to put in on PC.

My original comment was probably poorly worded and I'm going to go edit it but I think there is a possibility of an exclusivity deal.
 

DeSolos

Member
Well at least I can say I own a PS4 to play Persona 5 as well as FFXV and KH3 before their inevitable "definitive" PC releases.
 

orochi91

Member
That's pretty impressive actually. They're both bad ports for old games.

Both were relatively poor ports at launch, especially FFXIII.

These are fair points, especially considering how non-existent the graphical options were upon release.

It would be interesting to see a platform split on a JRPG that actually releases on PC at around the same time as console, I think Tales of Zestiria is one of the first doing so?

A new Final Fantasy releasing on PC, simultaneously with consoles, would be a better test.

Maybe FF15 will have a PC port announced soon.

I think "Tales of..." is too niche, even within the JRPG fandom, to prove anything substantial.
 

4Tran

Member
Is it or is it simply something you're hoping is a topic of discussion? There's really nothing to suggest at all that Atlus, the Japanese arm, is going to start making or having their games released on PC aside from that hope that Sega's going to suddenly make them release them on it.
It absolutely is a thing. JRPGs on PC are a thing and Sega likes releasing games on PC. The only thing missing is buy-in from Atlus, and it really wouldn't be surprising if it happened.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Persona 5 is whatever; I want Catherine on the PC with online multiplayer.

No I don't. That's absurd. Persona 5 is a game that has potential to sell 2m copies worldwide. It's not some uber niche visual novel that's going to clear 50k in Japan. It shouldn't be a shocking development that a company would try to lock down exclusivity on a title like this. Of course, judging by Atlus' history with PC games it also wouldn't be a surprise if they simple don't want to put in on PC.

That's true, but Persona has always leaned towards Sony platforms since the series started, so only now coming up with the possibility of it being an exclusive due to deals seems weird.
 

4Tran

Member
No I don't. That's absurd. Persona 5 is a game that has potential to sell 2m copies worldwide. It's not some uber niche visual novel that's going to clear 50k in Japan. It shouldn't be a shocking development that a company would try to lock down exclusivity on a title like this. Of course, judging by Atlus' history with PC games it also wouldn't be a surprise if they simple don't want to put in on PC.
The unlikeliness comes from Sony not really seeing PC as a competitor (see Street Fighter V) and Atlus' reluctance to make PC games in the first place. Sony's main interest in Persona 5 is to help lock in the Japanese home console market, and any PC release will have no bearing on that anyways.
 

randomkid

Member
Not to burst your bubble but this is more likely

Persona 4 Diamond - PS4/PS3/PS Vita/Vita TV/iPhone/Android

A persona 5 on Xbox....LOL....time to wake up, Neo.

Persona 4 Arena and Catherine both released on 360, Persona games on Xbox consoles is not as outlandish an idea as you think. The expectation for a while was that P5 would be PS360, before development hell hit and market realities changed.
 

Almighty

Member
I'm no fan of P3P.
Starting with the ridicilous price differences.
P3P costs about 30€ on EU store, which is quite a hefty sum compared to the 10€ for PE3 FES.
FES got more content and is visually alot more appealing.
Watch some videos, it's sadly nowhere near to the quality the delievered with P4 Golden.

Thanks for the advice I will check out some videos. I am leaning towards PS3 FES as ten bucks is a pretty good deal. It will be nice not having to bust out my Ps2 every time I want to play
 
Atlus is turning down easy money, but they do that pretty frequently anyway, and if nobody wants to port it well there's not much to be done about it. Oh well, it's good to have confirmation at least.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
There's a slim chance P5 could happen. No chance in hell for Catherine.

And even if it was, who would say they'd add in online multiplayer? Why does that matter in terms of what I personally want to see; it's obviously not a point of contention as a concept for this thread.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
And even if it was, who would say they'd add in online multiplayer? Why does that matter in terms of what I personally want to see; it's obviously not a point of contention as a concept for this thread.

Well, just to preempt anyone getting their hopes up.
 
Persona 4 Arena and Catherine both released on 360, Persona games on Xbox consoles is not as outlandish an idea as you think. The expectation for a while was that P5 would be PS360, before development hell hit and market realities changed.

Xbox 360 was the clear best choice of platform after PS3 during the time those games came out to get their games to western audiences. That's not really the case anymore with the rise of Steam and PC in that time. Japanese games have also sold like shit on Xbox One so far, so more niche titles like Persona would REALLY struggle to be worth the effort on the platform.
 

wmlk

Member
I just wanted to say that Persona 5 will be a very good game and I can't wait for it. Don't remember the last time I was so confident about the quality of a highly anticipated title.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
It would be foolish from Sony to let Persona go.

I don't think sony has any claim in this. Unless i'm wrong, it's just developer preference.

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With that said I just find it more odd that Atlus still hasn't done anything with PC yet. Obviously i'm talking about their own actual titles and not their publishing efforts.
 

wmlk

Member
We already have Persona 5 for XBOX One.

persona5.png
 

Ray Down

Banned
Persona 4 Arena and Catherine both released on 360, Persona games on Xbox consoles is not as outlandish an idea as you think. The expectation for a while was that P5 would be PS360, before development hell hit and market realities changed.

What? people thought PS3 or 3DS.

Arena is a fighting game not a traditional Persona game and neither is Catherine. Mainline persona games have always been on Playstation.

So yeah where do you get the idea of a traditional Persona game would hit the Xbox?

It would be foolish from Sony to let Persona go.

Doubt sony has any control over that.
 

Hawkens

Member
It's hard for me to sit there and imagine there isn't an audience for at least late ports of their older games.

That said, I'd say the same thing about porting Persona 4 Golden to other platforms as well, and I've already played through it on Vita.


The problem is that nearly all of those games were released for $15 or less. Persona, and many JRPGs have lived by being able to keep there msrp high for years.
 

Kolx

Member
I don't think sony has any claim in this. Unless i'm wrong, it's just developer preference.

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With that said I just find it more odd that Atlus still hasn't done anything with PC yet. Obviously i'm talking about their own actual titles and not their publishing efforts.

This implies they even have a hold on it.

Doubt sony has any control over that.

I never said Sony has a hold on it. what I'm saying is that Sony should get this locked since its probably the biggest title they have for Japan now.
 

Nyoro SF

Member
The problem is that nearly all of those games were released for $15 or less. Persona, and many JRPGs have lived by being able to keep there msrp high for years.

Heavy exaggeration on your part. "$15 or less" my butt. Do I really have to go through that list and note the launch price of each?
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
The problem is that nearly all of those games were released for $15 or less. Persona, and many JRPGs have lived by being able to keep there msrp high for years.

Atlus games haven't been keeping their MSRP high for two generations now. They are among the most consistent companies in the console space when it comes to lowering the price of their goods physically and especially digitally.
 
These figures don't seem impressive, like, at all.

Barely 400k, despite occasional discounts, and not to mention the noticeable drop-off for the sequel too.

Lightning Returns will probably take forever just to reach 200k.
Shit ports for shit games.

Sales numbers seem fine.

Someone bring up the original sales and compare them?
 

DasFool

Member
Valkryia Chronicles went from 33,000 (1 month) on the PS3 to 200,000 (2 months) on Steam. VC also had the unfortunate fate of being one of the most niche titles out there.

I think Persona is vastly more popular in comparison and Atlus would be foolish not to reap the profits.
 

Nyoro SF

Member
Valkryia Chronicles went from 33,000 (1 month) on the PS3 to 200,000 (2 months) on Steam. VC also had the unfortunate fate of being one of the most niche titles out there.

I think Persona is vastly more popular in comparison and Atlus would be foolish not to reap the profits.

VC1 also launched at $20 and had great reviews out of the gate (along with great reviews from its PS3 original version).

It's tough but there aren't too many examples of a modern Japanese game launching at the same time as PC... I think Xenoverse actually did, and that title is incredibly successful for Namco.

Is PC gaming even big in Japan?

It used to be.
Even Capcom back in the day created PC ports of Ace Attorney.
 
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