I had a funny thing happen in a castle level I played tonight. I jumped on the edge one of the orange moving platforms, which moved into the ax triggering the end of the level. However, the platform kept moving back over the lava, so when Mario started walking towards the exit he fell straight off the platform and into lava Bowser had fallen into. lol, it made me smile
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Super Mario Maker |OT| Miyamoto Simulator 2015
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the problem is if you don't have a shell that you carry up with you. if that's the case and you're small mario, you're stuck in that upper level and can't get out. if you have the mushroom, you can at least break the blocks (which makes that last section harder but still doable).
I think the SMB (as well as the NSMB one) is just a turnoff for most people since it's the first ones you get, and a lot of player made garbage use them because of that.
Anyway, onto the critique. The dungeon crawl is a fun concept, and I of course went with my boy Ike. Work on making the combat scenarios a little more interesting or offering different rewards for going at them different ways. For example the coins don't make for a particularly more enticing rewards for going through the harder upper route of the Monty Moles. Also work on making the aesthetic of the stage more interesting, since a most of the stage just uses boring looking flat structures like square and rectangles. It should look like a dungeon proper!
Azure Dream
Member
Bloopers are pretty nasty in this game. Once you start spamming them into levels like that, it kind of tanks the level for me.
timetokill
Banned
Ohh, right, I forgot about getting back down if you need it.
I only did Keep Having the Same Nightmare
The first thing I want to say is that the aesthetic is really great. The asymmetrical and sporadic architecture genuinely make it feel like a dilapidated place. It's a really easy stage, and I only have a few minor things to say in regards to feedback. The first Goomba spawns as soon as you start the level and has a weird time for when it falls of the ledge because of that. Maybe move it farther back to accommodate players that are observing the level for the first time. The angry wiggler at the end is kind of lame if that was supposed to be the Big Bad or whatever. I'm also not sure I understand the falling Bowsers during the last segment.
KittenMaster
Member
I still want to make a tier list of enemies and then compare them to DOOM II enemies. Like for example Hammer Bros. are Revenants where they provide a huge challenge just by existing but level design can make them easier.
NSMB style is a turn off for me because wall clinging messes me up so bad.
Lady Siara
Member
I think it just alternates the timing.
I've got two new courses I'd like to present to GAF:
Gotta Go Fast!
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It's a Sonic inspired course created when the trail ability opened up. Lots of springs, spikes and invincibility stars. Looks hard but if you resist jumping unnecessarily, the hazards are designed for you to survive. Also some branching paths & exploration. It's well received so far, 8 stars out of 23 random players.
Money Is the Root of All Evil
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A SMB3 dungeon level, just finished by me. If you resist temptation, as the title suggests, it's quite easy. Try for the coins and you're going to be in for some Indiana Jones style death traps, lol. Hopefully that one works as intended, no one's played it yet though. I almost called it "follow the signs" because I don't want people to die, but I think it's so ingrained in our nature to go after coins that despite the title and the hint, people will probably get tripped up until they realize what's up. Hopefully the super obvious first couple of traps will alarm people to think puzzle style instead of standard platforming style.
Neither level is the typical enemy-gauntlet die-on-the-first screen kind of carnage, and I took a lot of care playing through them multiple times. If anyone has time to check 'em out, I hope you enjoy!
Gotta Go Fast!
28AE-0000-0034-3C34
It's a Sonic inspired course created when the trail ability opened up. Lots of springs, spikes and invincibility stars. Looks hard but if you resist jumping unnecessarily, the hazards are designed for you to survive. Also some branching paths & exploration. It's well received so far, 8 stars out of 23 random players.
Money Is the Root of All Evil
74BA-0000-0040-A20B
A SMB3 dungeon level, just finished by me. If you resist temptation, as the title suggests, it's quite easy. Try for the coins and you're going to be in for some Indiana Jones style death traps, lol. Hopefully that one works as intended, no one's played it yet though. I almost called it "follow the signs" because I don't want people to die, but I think it's so ingrained in our nature to go after coins that despite the title and the hint, people will probably get tripped up until they realize what's up. Hopefully the super obvious first couple of traps will alarm people to think puzzle style instead of standard platforming style.
Neither level is the typical enemy-gauntlet die-on-the-first screen kind of carnage, and I took a lot of care playing through them multiple times. If anyone has time to check 'em out, I hope you enjoy!
Beer Monkey
Member
My GF made her first level (I haven't really even finished one yet that I'd consider uploading. She used a lot of restraint and a bit of creativity, and it feels reasonably authentic to a classic level from a retail SMB game. We don't have all the tools unlocked yet (not a bad thing, though we sure want to use the second area). Anyhow, it's all hers, I only playtested. Check it out.
Sunshine Village:
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Sunshine Village:
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Gotdatmoney
Member
Alright, made a new level, and I'm reposting my original one since nobody played it
I'd appreciate it if people would take a look at either one (particularly the first.)
Solid Ground
(5C77-0000-003F-F0C4)
I'm happy with this one. It's an autoscrolling level that reallly pushes NSMBU's mechanics, and offers up a pretty sizable challenge. Tough, but fair.
Cavern Thrash
(491B-0000-003F-EEE3)
Pure platforming. Medium to hard difficulty, with sections that look more intimidating than they are. I think the level flows pretty well and lends itself to speedrunning.
I played solid ground through a few times. Its pretty good. I really dislike autoscrolling in combination with precision wall jumps so that first section was pretty bad for me. The part with the vines I dislike though, its more frustrating than actually challenging. The propeller suit part was actually the easiest section of the level. Starred it.
Actually its just like hearting a player in Little Big Planet. Whatever you play a level, or go in your "played levels" or click on a user that played some of you levels, etc, you can end up on its user "page" if you wish and then you "heart" that player clicking on the icon top right (a heart icon, what a surprise).
After that, you can always go get the level published by those users when enter the "makers" section.
Belgian Dude
Member
Finally free of stuff to do so I just wanna chill and play some levels tonight! I'm definitely no expert (though my levels aren't bad either) but I can offer some good feedback, so whoever wants to, just quote this post and I'll definitely check your level(s)! If it is super difficult or something like that, though, don't expect me to finish. I'm not really great at platforming, heh.
Bloopers suck and they should never ever be used. (Yes I'm petty)
Bloopers suck and they should never ever be used. (Yes I'm petty)
I don't think the extremely tight timer pairs well with how you've hidden stuff around the level. I think that cape is required for getting to the goal and I just happened to find it by frantically jumping around. The first area with the tracks is a little too visually confusing the "where the fuck even is Mario in all this?" sense. There was also a very strange area I got to thanks to an arrow and a P-Switch and it just took me to what seemed to be an empty death room.
I feel like strict timer levels are actually underexplored in SMM right now, so I would like to see more of those ideas implemented, but right now I feel your level is too explore-oriented and trial and error based for the time to compliment it.
I would be happy to critique if you could post me a specific level of yours.
I wouldn't say it isn't hard at all. Dodging the jumping piranha plants seems impossible at first but if you just run below them it's pretty easy. It's just not obvious to do that. I enjoyed the level, but it was too short.
Nice level. The location of blocks and enemies was pretty good although I think it had too many Mushrooms. I enjoyed the variety of tasks. Very fun!
Fun level! Nice idea for the checkpoint, I may steal it haha. First section felt way harder than the second one. Dodging those giant fireballs can be very tricky depending on when you take the rollercoaster.
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Any feedback on any of my levels is very appreciated: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=178647401&postcount=4749 .
It's a fun, short, novel idea and you're probably going to get a lot of stars for it. The error sound playing when I destroyed the home crowd was a hilarious touch. Exiting the arena is definitely not intuitive and I probably would have just quit out of the stage without finishing. Despite the fun concept, it's short and not played up to any considerable degree, so there really isn't much to say about it.
KittenMaster
Member
I'll be falling asleep soon. If anybody else wants to check out my latest level, that would be cool. As a warning, as another poster said this level might be harder for others than it was for me when I tested it.
Not going to be able to pump out another level for my series for a few days due to busy school stuff, so I'm posting this one last time since barely anyone played it;
Day 3: Shy Guy's Spikey Swim
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Tried to make a quick level that has a fast-paced momentum to it like my first two levels, with 100 coins collectable throughout the level. Only this time it's underwater. You can essentially just hold right the entirety of the way after you get going in the beginning, or you can play it cautious.
Let me know what you guys think, I'm curious since I'm usually not a fan of water levels in general.
Day 3: Shy Guy's Spikey Swim
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Tried to make a quick level that has a fast-paced momentum to it like my first two levels, with 100 coins collectable throughout the level. Only this time it's underwater. You can essentially just hold right the entirety of the way after you get going in the beginning, or you can play it cautious.
Let me know what you guys think, I'm curious since I'm usually not a fan of water levels in general.
Grinchy
Banned
Nice, thanks! I am still really new to this game and I haven't spent a ton of time on Wii U outside of Splatoon and a few others.
Thanks man! The few comments on miiverse echoed the sentiment that it was too hard to find the P-Switch to exit the arena - though I intentionally added another method of escape. As small Mario, you can jump on one of the net blocks and get enough height from there to get on top to exit. If your still big Mario and have killed all the enemies, you can bounce the "puck" at your face to become small Mario again to pull the trick off. But yeah - I think we're all learning more and more here that people aren't willing to apply patience to any given level to figure these things out. I certainly don't care to - I automatically skip a stage if I feel even slightly inconvenienced, since most levels are just absolute rancid garbage piles. I'm planning a GAF level only night soon, and I'm sure those levels will be ace, but the general population is so bad at that Mario life.
Anyway, thanks again!
Awesome thanks for the feedback, guess i still need some fine tuning keep forgetting how easy i can run through my own created stages, i set the timer due to that which isn't the brightest of ideas. the beginning part was suppose to represent traffic
P switch can get u to the finish as well. since it turns into coins just gotta bring p switch closer if needed. 3 ways u can actually pass that last part
Hah. Thanks for giving it a go! Yeah, that seemingly inaccessible coin entrance to the flag is a little joke I'm playing on the player. There is a wholly different way to access the flagI gave it a go and I'll admit the ending outsmarted me.Here's my second level, "Whacker Mole Hollow". Took me over 30 hours to make! Whew. Hope someone digs it! This one has a bit of a cunning ending, hope it's fun to figure out!
Code: 029E 0000 003B E066
I got as far as finding the giant mole and guiding it to the P switch, but since I had hit an invisible block beneath one door I could not access the little room with the door and the entrance to the goal area just below it again.
Hope you enjoyed it
I apologize in advance because I don't believe I made it far enough to see your mirror concepts, but I do have a few things to say from what I did play. I know it's going to hurt your aesthetic, but the Drybones really just make poor enemies for bouncing off of due to the random nature of their bone throws. It can force you to wait and throw off other elements of the level. The circle Boos early on dysnced because of this and made it impossible to progress past them without taking a hit. I would also strongly advise adding another Super Mushroom in the Bowser room just before the series of spike jumps. Bowser's patterns can be really bullshit, and if he does the upwards fire shot, you're almost guaranteed to be taking a hit. Also consider extending the beginning platform. There isn't a lot of room to grab the mushroom as it is now, and it's easily to lose it off the cliff. Again, sorry for not making much more progress in your level. I hope you find the limited feedback useful!
Metaternal
Member
I'm jumping in here now that I've made a few levels! Gonna check some of you guys's stuff and post mine.
One of those precision platforming levels with the single blocks everyone loves. My first level.
I really wanted to name a level Coming In Hot so I made this. It's a tricky one if you don't find the secret. It's also a little tricky if you find the secret.
A level with a theme kinda. Shorter than my other levels and quite a bit easier. Was aiming for a 50% clear rate with this one.
This one's brand new so play this one! Pretty challenging but nothing crazy I don't think.
Momentum 1
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One of those precision platforming levels with the single blocks everyone loves. My first level.
Coming In Hot
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I really wanted to name a level Coming In Hot so I made this. It's a tricky one if you don't find the secret. It's also a little tricky if you find the secret.
Goomba Peaks 1
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A level with a theme kinda. Shorter than my other levels and quite a bit easier. Was aiming for a 50% clear rate with this one.
It's at 45% as I type this.
Scorched Hall
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This one's brand new so play this one! Pretty challenging but nothing crazy I don't think.
DeuceGamer
Member
Couple of questions.
How do you copy items that show up randomly on your floor?
How do you creat the type of floor you can jump through from underneath, but land on (hopefully that makes sense)?
How do you copy items that show up randomly on your floor?
How do you creat the type of floor you can jump through from underneath, but land on (hopefully that makes sense)?
"Wario's Mystery Mansion". A puzzle-based level that has you trying to escape a mansion as Wario by solving the puzzle of the mansion. Pretty proud of this one. Its creation was fueled by whiskey.
"Wario's Mystery Mansion"
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It really did feel like a Wario Land stage, which if that's what you're aiming for, is really cool! There were a couple things I didn't particularly like with the stage though. The time on the first P-Switch is really strict, with couple with how frustrating the jumps are up the hidden block ledges, can be really annoying and require multiple attempts. Maybe use vines instead of hidden blocks to alleviate the problem. Also, when you take the wrong pipe and come out on the roof, it's hard to identify a way down without possibly hurling yourself off a cliff. A coin trail could help players figure out how to get down without killing themselves.
Thanks for the feedback. Hrm. I suppose it could be possible to have a pipe that spawns stars instead of a question block. Then the only non-renewable part of the stage would be if you accidentally get a coin with the p-switch section.
I tried to make it so that it was impossible to miss the invisible blocks, that there's always a little block you have to jump over and when you do that you hit one of them.
But yeah, I looked at the results of a few people playing the level and almost everyone died before getting through the first barrier.
So I did an updated, streamlined version:
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This one removes the higher blocks that required you to be running to get enough height to hit, and it adds a very basic initial segment that shows the player how to use a koopa shell to progress.
JinjoUnchained
Member
Alright, made a new level, and I'm reposting my original one since nobody played it
I'd appreciate it if people would take a look at either one (particularly the first.)
Solid Ground
(5C77-0000-003F-F0C4)
I'm happy with this one. It's an autoscrolling level that reallly pushes NSMBU's mechanics, and offers up a pretty sizable challenge. Tough, but fair.
Cavern Thrash
(491B-0000-003F-EEE3)
Pure platforming. Medium to hard difficulty, with sections that look more intimidating than they are. I think the level flows pretty well and lends itself to speedrunning.
Finished Cavern Thrash and starred it. The level design is really good; I like how it gently curves up, down, left, and right. It's a good flow and use of space. The hazards were creative, like the combination of Thwomps and Piranha Plants.
Check out my level 3936-0000-0031-C411 and tell me what you think. I've got a couple others if you like that one; all SMB1 style.
Green Mamba
Member
--Copy the ground tile(s) that the background element appears on.
--Those are semi-solid platforms, you may not have them yet.
Azure Dream
Member
One of the triggers held down puts you in Copy Mode, just grab that tile that the item spawned up from, and you should take a duplicate of it.
It's an item called Semi-Solid Platform. It looks wildly different between themes, but functions the same. Also, be sure to shake it, as it has three different designs for every theme (in addition to every game).
Let's go with Buzzy's Cavern.
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I enjoyed it, but I would like to see more being done the Buzzy dropping mechanic. The most interesting idea in the level is when they drop onto the moving platform. Otherwise, it's basically the same thing repeated over and over. The beginning feels maybe a bit sparse, but other than that. there isn't a whole lot more I know to say about the level.
Thanks for the feedback! So I made a couple edits to the course taking yours and jholmes feedback into account. I added some coins to make the path to the vine block more obvious, some to guide you on the blind leap, and a few others to sort of point out a route for speedrunning (there are a few routes that work). I removed the first blooper and put a cheep cheep there. I left the second blooper in since his job is to make you want to go up. I also moved the feather underwater to a slightly safer spot. You can actually jump on the goombas underwater and grab them to kill the blooper if you need to.
It pained me a little to delete my most popular course just to fix a few things, but I'm happier with the course overall now.
Take two!
Goombas Take a Dive
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Unrelated note: I was happy to see this comment on one of my other levels.
This one took me a real long time to make. I call it the 100 Coin Challenge. Beating the course isn't overly difficult but getting all 100 coins is tough, at least I think so. I actually haven't been able to get all 100 yet in one run. It's my first ever course so please be gentle. Note: This isn't a jerk track.
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Please let me know if you're able to get all 100 coins.
P.S How are you guys posting the screenshots?
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Please let me know if you're able to get all 100 coins.
P.S How are you guys posting the screenshots?
This is my favorite traditional Mario course I've made so far, I'm super happy with how it came out. Give it a try and see if you can find Yoshi. Among other little secrets..
Find Yoshi 1-2 Splish Splash (7812-0000-0040-48A8)
got killed by the thwomps so many times... D:
Hah. Thanks for giving it a go! Yeah, that seemingly inaccessible coin entrance to the flag is a little joke I'm playing on the player. There is a wholly different way to access the flag
Hope you enjoyed it
Wow I can tell you spent a lot of care on this one. I couldn't pass it, sadly. Around the area with the P-switch I figured out how to go through it twice to clear the coins/blocks but then had that 3 one-way section that kept forcing me down. Couldn't find the high road. But I'm sure it's a good course.
Bearing in mind the Yoshi trick, I decided to throw together a Miiverse post showing some options. None are particularly pretty, but if you can work them into the design of your level they might work well.
A few solutions for progressive power-ups. 1 and 2 give a mushroom if small, blocking you from the secondary power-up.
Yoshi egg goes mushroom->flower->feather.
The leftmost is not my design but I can't find the level I found it in. The lower blocks in the two left designs are invisible blocks with mushrooms. If using design 2 with a flower, make sure the player can reach the top of the block.
A few solutions for progressive power-ups. 1 and 2 give a mushroom if small, blocking you from the secondary power-up.
Yoshi egg goes mushroom->flower->feather.
The leftmost is not my design but I can't find the level I found it in. The lower blocks in the two left designs are invisible blocks with mushrooms. If using design 2 with a flower, make sure the player can reach the top of the block.
I think that little Yoshi basement looks not too bad, actually!
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Welp, I didn't think Splatoon could be beat, but this is my GOTY easily.
I haven't laughed this much playing a game in a long time.
I haven't laughed this much playing a game in a long time.
JinjoUnchained
Member
Momentum 1 was fun and satisfying to complete. Only issue is you can get stuck if you accidentally destroy the two turtle shells, so you'd have to suicide. If there is a way to instead cause the player to lose a life if they get stuck, that would be better in my eyes. Good level though, I starred it.