partyphone
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it's funny because all anyone does is link what he says. in context.
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SXSW cancels a panel on "Overcoming Harassment in Games" due to threats of violence
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SolicitorPirate
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As a lawyer, I can say idiots like this are a good source of pocket change.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Zabant
Member
Libel is libel, if he can prove what was said was outright lies and defamation of character he has every right to lawyer up.
Would you want people dragging your name through the mud?
Aren't they just linking to his tweets?
Zabant
Member
If that's the truth then why would he need lawyers?
'HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT SOMETHING I SAID!'
QuantumZebra
Member
That's what amazes me about GG.
They rant about censorship and freedom of speech, but then when someone speaks out against a GGer or the movement, they immediately move to threaten/sue/censor them.
Harassment issues aside:
People are going to have to start moving away from leaning on the crutch of gaming parlance if they want their ideas to be taken seriously. Titling your panel something like "Start Button" or "Game Over," especially when they seem to have little to do with the content of the panel (like the above) is a good way of telling me that their appeal to attract "gamers" is more important than what they actually have to say.
Could the panel not just be called "Overcoming Harassment in Games?"
Movies and books and other related media have this problem, too, when talking about games. It always feels like its removing legitimacy from real issues that need to be meaningfully addressed in the community. But this is also a community that has a hard time discussing anything without falling back on memes, so what else can I expect?
People are going to have to start moving away from leaning on the crutch of gaming parlance if they want their ideas to be taken seriously. Titling your panel something like "Start Button" or "Game Over," especially when they seem to have little to do with the content of the panel (like the above) is a good way of telling me that their appeal to attract "gamers" is more important than what they actually have to say.
Could the panel not just be called "Overcoming Harassment in Games?"
Movies and books and other related media have this problem, too, when talking about games. It always feels like its removing legitimacy from real issues that need to be meaningfully addressed in the community. But this is also a community that has a hard time discussing anything without falling back on memes, so what else can I expect?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I'm surprised people are still surprised at the basic ignorance of your common Gator.
QuantumZebra
Member
We're talking about GG here. These are the same people that tried to have Zoe Quinn arrested for treason for speaking at a UN Panel on harassment (using an ancient US law about consorting with foreign governments).
SolicitorPirate
Member
A complete lack of introspection and self awareness is kinda needed for someone to still be supportive of GG at this point.
GG likes excuses for sending people to moon jail.
I know this isn't their fault, but there is a little irony in a anti-harassment panel getting shut down over harassment, albeit death threats (as many like to pretend for some reason that these things don't happen and aren't common forms of harassment). Also a little strange about the panels they ARE allowing. Makes you wonder if there are motives we aren't hearing about.
Its come to the worst generation.
It's not just a little ironic.
It's just sad tbh. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a 8chan op or some bullshit like that.
weevles
Member
Gaming culture has been building up to this for years. This is just the chickens coming home to roost.
pixelpatron
Banned
Seriously disgusted this is allowed, and no one is being charged for criminal offenses.
Yabberwocky
Member
I do have to respectfully disagree with your wife, men can absolutely be feminists. (The intrinsic belief that women are inferior is absolutely not written into a man's genetic code, either.) Continue being awesome, dude!
Zabant
Member
Has anyone got any evidence he's just talking out of his ass?
I mean if this is another case of gamergate idiocy then nail the dude on his bullshit. Simply dismissing him out of hand doesn't sit right with me.
I see a whole lot of shit flinging whenever this topic comes up but never any names linked to actual events. just anonymous accounts and amorphous terms like the 'SJW's' and the 'MRA's'
It's exhausting to try and comprehend. If these people on the gamergate panel have been proven to be harassing people then get the damn cops or sue their ass!
DICKS AHOY
Banned
My experience from seeing the amount of times people have threatened lawsuits during GamerGate is this sort of legal retribution is way easier said than done. Nothing ever seems to hit the courts and it just comes across more as scare tactics than anything else.
TheOohChild
Member
Really don't blame SXSW for just wanting absolutely nothing to do with this
partyphone
Banned
for as much as GGer's whine about their free speech rights being violated by things like blockbots they sure are quick to threaten legal action to silence people.
not to mention sending death threats to shut down a panel that was about how to deal with online death threats.
not to mention sending death threats to shut down a panel that was about how to deal with online death threats.
Zabant
Member
I just wish ignoring the whole situation would make it go away, but it's been more than a year now and this stuff keeps cropping up.
Given you don't even seem to know what he's claiming to need the lawyer for it's weird that you're going to bat for him so much.
QuantumZebra
Member
It seems that most of games media and gaming companies wished the same thing... but this has been a longtime coming. The old boy's club of gaming culture is lashing out at change that has been in the making for a while.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Disappointing. The head in the sand approach won't help improve the situation.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
So is every pro-gamergate person a loon or is this just the work of a select few? I keep seeing shit like this and it's sad, annoying and childish.
Edit:
I usually stay out of GG related threads cause I don't really care, but it seems like there are threats at every panel. Thanks for the tidbit.
Edit:
I usually stay out of GG related threads cause I don't really care, but it seems like there are threats at every panel. Thanks for the tidbit.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Everyone in GamerGate who isn't a loon eventually gets out of it.
Zabant
Member
This might be a result of my own naivete due to not following this mess for a while, but my knee-jerk reaction when I see posters throwing someone under the bus without proof that they're talking bollocks is a defensive one.
Surely if this guy was going to be on the gamergate panel, he wouldn't be dumb enough to make shit up about the people on the other panel saying "not nice thing about me" to the level it would require lawyers, it would completely undermine his efforts.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Thank you for being the first person to say that to me. It means a lot.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'm not so sure giving in to terrorists is the correct move. Maybe get beefed up security? I guess no one wants to take that chance these days though.
Zabant
Member
"Surely he can't be THIS stupid" has historically been a wonky defence
Not sure what you're going for. The tweet you linked to is some random guy, not the guy making the complaint, and also goes directly against the panelist's story, that it was another panelist that is slagging him off, as Quinn is not one of the panelists.
Zabant
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HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So not only did they completely bring this on themselves, now we can surmise that someone involved in SXSW's scheduling is a Gator or a Gator sympathizer. Idiots.
People might also forget that this happened. I can only imagine that prepping for death and bomb threats would balloon the security budget. One of the larger industry get togethers would probably be a more realistic venue to make it happen if people are going to act like complete nut jobs.
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Deleted member 80556
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Whoever organizes SXSW should be fired. Like damn.
This would've been a great conference, I think there needs to be better ways to reduce harassment in games by reporting those cases.
I wish his lawyer amazing luck in taking his money because libel is one of the hardest things to nail down in the US, due to the first amendment.
You have to prove that they knew the truth and posted a falsehood maliciously specifically to tear them down.
People also forget what happened last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/13/us/texas-sxsw-crash/
Not the best move for them, but understandable seeing as they had a major incident just last year.
@HP_Wuvcraft - I think people are taking that out of context. I think when they say "Gamergate" they mean "anything related to the topic, including anti-Gamergate panels". The tweet is taking them to task for ignoring the responses they got.
EDIT: Also, for those who have never been to SXSW - it's not in a given building any more - it's basically strewn out across several blocks of Austin in the open. Security (see: 2014) is nearly impossible.
I'm assuming this is what he was whining about though?
The picture's not actually through that link, but his tweets there should be more than enough to prove that he doesn't exactly have any good will behind him here. It's just more attempts to harass.
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