gundamkyoukai
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UC sales are not that great either even if it was bundle or people bought it on DD .
Still it's a remaster without any MP .
Not a new main line game .
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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UC sales are not that great either even if it was bundle or people bought it on DD .
Still it's a remaster without any MP .
Not a new main line game .
CaptainCook
Member
I'm not gonna say that halo has not declined since 3, cause that's just not true. The competition got fierce and halo lost a lot of ground. all I'm saying is that halos fine given the current climate of the fps genre as a whole, and being locked to a single console
fallen_dawn
Member
Yeah, I don't think anyone said that seriously.
fastford58
Member
There is no way to spin H5s piss poor performance.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Courtesy of Oscar Lemaire:
https://twitter.com/oscarlemaire/status/665061436465545216
Edit: should have said it earlier sorry, physical only, one week for Halo 5, two for Halo 3 and three for the others.
Hm, let's analyse this number and compare to Halo 4.
So Halo 5 did 850k in one week. To make a fair comparison we should multiply by 3 to compare with 4 which had three weeks in its first month. So that gives 2550k copies. According to Ubisoft, digital sales make up 48.3 % of total sales. Taking that into account, the three-week sales correspond to about 5.3 million for 5. That's a huge increase compared to 4. Of course Sony-GAF was concern trolling about the game's potential before release, but we can now see it was all baseless.
High-five Microsoft, for record-breaking sales!
Frozenprince
Banned
And HD remaster of older games is not the same thing as a mainline entry in a franchise that used to have "biggest entertainment medium launch in history" as a selling point.
The fact that you're even attempting to compare the two is telling enough as to it's decline.
We don't have exact numbers yet.
Giriath_89
Member
Wait until the numbers are confirmed and someone makes a thread about it.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Without cream don't think we will ever get them .
It's not fine when the decline is that steep, any way you slice it.
opticalmace
Member
Frozenprince
Banned
Oh you sweet summer child.
BO3 is selling around franchise norms and it outpacing it's predecessor. SW is going to make tons of money and have ridiculous legs due to the movie hype. FO4 has already likely doubled, if not tripled H5's total sales by now.
Competitive shooters are still alive and well. Halo on the other hand, might just be dead. Nobody should expect it to have legs well enough to catch any of the big 3 like it would have just 3 years ago.
Well deserved for Microsoft, their efforts on Xbox One have been huge lately, with backward compatibility, new dashboard, windows 10 integrated app and of course exclusive games like Gears, Forza, Halo, Tomb Raider and more coming soon like Quantum Break and Scalebound. I hope they can keep it up, i've no doubts that Microsoft will release other consoles in future, but Xbox One success is critical to have them keep pushing into gaming market, and we need Xbox to exist in order to have a healthy competition and great products for core gaming
I've just read this entire thread and nobody has said that. The only fair caveat with Uncharted Collection is it's now the defacto bundle with PS4 which isn't included in October NPD game charts.
However, considering poor PS4 sales this month, I doubt they contributed all that much to the actual collection sales.
With ballooning development costs and the amount of marketing put into Halo, I don't know if it's as cut and dry as that.
But MS were very smart to add microtransactions and get their extra dough there. I'm sure even a small Halo install base will pump money into the game for a while longer
Yo, someone grab the bingo chart.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I'm not comparing the games, or the sales of the games. I'm comparing the reactions to the sales of the games here on Neogaf.
well said.
anothertech
Member
Well there it is. And yes, that is a pretty sad day for halo, no matter how much spin you put on it. I think that chart really puts things into perspective.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I don't think people that concern about a remaster even if it is UC .
It doing badly not going to phase people that much comapre to if it was UC4.
fallen_dawn
Member
Which ones? If you can find more than a small handful of people who seriously argued that Uncharted sales were significantly more digitally-weighted than Halo 5, I would be very surprised.
Ghost Slayer
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Courtesy of Oscar Lemaire:
https://twitter.com/oscarlemaire/status/665061436465545216
Edit: should have said it earlier sorry, physical only, one week for Halo 5, two for Halo 3 and three for the others.
Time to set this one behind us and look toward next months chaotic thread.
Time to set this one behind us and look toward next months chaotic thread.
should be interesting
I think someone screamed Bingo from the back just from this post!
Is this a real post? I can't tell anymore lol
Arondight
Member
Terrible looking numbers but not surprised with BF around the corner. XB gets the top spot pretty deserved given the nice bundles and Halo coming out.
Reading the Uk thread full of optimism for NPD is pretty hilarious looking at the numbers in hindsight.
I still find the hope of clinging onto digital sales, bundles etc even sweeter to read through as if it wasn't established already in the previous threads on the effects of digital on consoles.
Reading the Uk thread full of optimism for NPD is pretty hilarious looking at the numbers in hindsight.
I still find the hope of clinging onto digital sales, bundles etc even sweeter to read through as if it wasn't established already in the previous threads on the effects of digital on consoles.
opticalmace
Member
Bravo sir, bravo.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Terrible month.
Seriously cannot believe Halo selling so badly. Not even taken the poor launch and decline in the UK as an indication could prepare for the US numbers.
But it explains the XBone HW sales being tepid. And MS awful (ingenious) PR spin for the title.
The only excuse for the PS4 has got to be the bundles coming this month and people holding off. Because otherwise Sony will be in for a poor Xmas, which I just can't see happening. But then i don't think many would have foreseen such disappointing HW numbers with both Halo and a first ever price drop occurring.
Seriously cannot believe Halo selling so badly. Not even taken the poor launch and decline in the UK as an indication could prepare for the US numbers.
But it explains the XBone HW sales being tepid. And MS awful (ingenious) PR spin for the title.
The only excuse for the PS4 has got to be the bundles coming this month and people holding off. Because otherwise Sony will be in for a poor Xmas, which I just can't see happening. But then i don't think many would have foreseen such disappointing HW numbers with both Halo and a first ever price drop occurring.
Has this been posted yet? http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-11-13-npd-overall-sales-up-2-percent-for-october
Sephiroth_VII
Member
Yes, how could a french person possibly think to list the caveats of his graph in French!? Clearly it should have been in Chinese, the most spoken language on earth.
We really shouldn't let people who graduated from the school of Greenberg in on Bingo night
Amazon chart is still a good indicator for hardware overall. The XB1 Halo pre order bundles were topping charts in September and August and only got recorded in October.
Same with how Blops III and Star Wars bundles for PS4 having dominated October in anticipation for November. Context is key, have a more discerning eye.
Yeah looking back that UK thread is hilarious. The parallels between the UK and US XB1 market dynamics are in fairness quite similar.
I'm at a loss for words with how digital adding another 1million sales is actually being discussed by some posters in here lol.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Sounds good and can you give me this on halo 2?
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Aceofspades
Banned
It is a win to Sony, I mean a gap this small during MS wildest card is...nothing
Also Halo numbers are like the worst I have ever seen, no spinning can make them good. Going from a franchise that pulls around 4m a day WW to hovering around 1.5m is the biggest drop I have ever seen, MS can't be too happy about that.
And Xbox 360 had a lower install base than XB1 at the time of Halo 3's launch.
Bits N Pieces
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Its funny to see people reveling in numbers for hardware and software, especially if they are not as positive or large as people were expecting.
Who would have thought people would have been delighted with Sony selling less than 300k with a price cut and Halo 5 selling way below previous installments.
Its almost as if some people want certain games / manufacturers to fail . . .
Who would have thought people would have been delighted with Sony selling less than 300k with a price cut and Halo 5 selling way below previous installments.
Its almost as if some people want certain games / manufacturers to fail . . .
I fell asleep, Halo 5 sold less than 1 million? Dear god that is awful, the game needs some serious bundling before it even hits 5 million LTD, other franchises get away with sub-1 million on NPD because they're global brands, Halo doesn't have that luxury.
PS4 at ~276k is atrocious, why even bother dropping the price? I doubt it would have sold that much less without the price drop, & the BF effect with 100$ less would have been significantly bigger, I know hindsight 20/20 and all that, but that was a useless price drop. It would be a disaster if it doesn't sell 1.2m+ in November.
PS4 at ~276k is atrocious, why even bother dropping the price? I doubt it would have sold that much less without the price drop, & the BF effect with 100$ less would have been significantly bigger, I know hindsight 20/20 and all that, but that was a useless price drop. It would be a disaster if it doesn't sell 1.2m+ in November.
fallen_dawn
Member
If you're going to make a point about install bases, what was the install base on the 360 when Halo 3 launched?
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I guess you would more than happily provide quotes where "Neogaf" has said those things.
Wow, 96% of console sales were a bundle.
Wonder what this chart would look like if NPD applied the same rules as TNS in the UK.
Square2015
Member
Well yeah! It sold like 140k in the UK, that's a megaton bomb. At least over here it almost made it to a million. 140k is nothing compared to 1m.
#latenitehumor#
funkystudent
Member
Time to set this one behind us and look toward next months chaotic thread.
Oh its going to be fun seeing the excuses for why systen Y sold less then system Z for November.
Both consoles at $299. Plenty of decent bundles for both systems. No obvious weak link for either side outside of Sony not having a big exclusive I guess.
Both systems should do really well. I am more curious is how close the gap will be then who will sell the most.