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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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If you also normalise for the fact that the PS3 launched at $600 then you could make the case that things are worse than they seem right now. Same if you normalise for the fact that there may have been pent up demand due to the extended PS3/360 life cycle or the aggressive price movement MS have made this gen so far. Feel free to do a normalised statistical analysis, I haven't seen anyone do one yet.
This is what happened in Japan. Japanese publishers reduced how they pushed the boundaries on consoles due to the increasingly unaffordable development costs and the audience shifted towards handhelds as the primary gaming device. Being the primary gaming device sales of both 3DS and Vita have been more resilient in Japan than elsewhere.
If the same happens to western developers and it comes to a point where they can't keep up with development costs then a similar shift towards handhelds is also possible in the future. Handhelds are not just competing with mobiles for game time outside the home. They are competing with mobiles, tablets and consoles within the home. That competition is on a variety of metrics such as price, convenience, features/differentiation, software etc. It could be as simple as people getting touchscreen fatigue on mobile similar to how you get franchise fatigue on Assassins Creed and then consoles/handhelds offering some snazzy feature to reignite more interest than ever in the dedicated space.
dancrane212
Member
I wonder if Rodea might not actually be the last Wii game released then. Just Dance seems like it would do well over the holidays and, if the Wii version keeps that ratio, ~40% is nothing to sneeze at.
I did not realize that George Clooney was an owl
Somewhere, someone is crying that Chibi-Robo outsold both D5 and DQH. But, for D5 at least, that number is probably fine... the numbers on Zestiria and DQH, on the other hand, are not.
Woolly did better than I expected, and Triforce is doing fine for what was likely a 10$ budget. I have no idea what to make of the Chibi-Robo numbers.
Ricerocket
Member
Well that is surprising. I figured Halo was a better brand than Uncharted.
Aceofspades
Banned
Hero of Legend
Member
Tales at least had some people migrate to PC.
I commented on Chibi Robo selling more than Disgaea and DQ, but that has more to do with Chibi Robo selling more than I expected lol.
It's dire, of anything.
When chibi robo can beat both d5 and dqh, u know ps4 is not going to be a very nice place for jrpg here.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Only the most hardcore would buy pay $500 for that bundle.
Blue = XB1? Figured it would have represented PS4.
Yes, PC did considerably better than the PS4 release.
Chibi-Robo probably got hauled up by the amiibo bundle, it certainly didn't have any advertisement aimed at it.
theprodigy
Member
We already have exact numbers!
It did 90k world wide and among them only 30% sale was from na
Ie basically 30k
30k for a game which was 10$ less and had a free game for pre order isn't great imo
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Isn't SteamSpy worldwide compared to the sales here = US? It's hard to say what the sales are worldwide for PS4.
Then again, ToZ had a poorer debut compared to ToX I believe (NPD).
So, where we sitting on XCX?
After I purchase a million copies.
Oh, you know what, you're probably right on that. My mistake on the steam-spy numbers then. I generally associate it with "west" which won't necessarily be limited to just the US.
I'm getting the exact same numbers that NPD_George gave.
What do other Musous games usually sell? Guessing DQH isn't up to that tier.
Nothing like Cream and Pies. Thanks.
EDIT:
And that would put the Halo Bundle somewhere around/under 150k. Seeing as how UC sold below Yoshi's 165k but is over 300k with bundles.
Halo 5 is probably under 800k then.
gundamkyoukai
Member
TOZ did in line with what tales does even more so if you add in the PC sales and DD .
The series is not very big .
DQH did bad but then again i don't know how much you could expect from that .
The series is not very big .
DQH did bad but then again i don't know how much you could expect from that .
Hero of Legend
Member
Wouldn't cream's Zesteria number include the PS3 version?
Cow Goes Moo
Member
oh yeah
Yes, I know. I noted above.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Maybe it's time for Tales to disappear again in the West for 5 years!
... Or make a better quality Tales game
I don't hate Zestiria but it's incredibly half-assed, compared to Xillia, and Xillia was kinda half-assed too in the end.
49% actually, so ~45K for ToZ on PC across the US and Canada.
They didn't bring the PS3 version over...right?
Isn't Tales pretty weak on Europe, though?
(honest question)
Yeah, stop. It's 10$ less but the profit margins are higher, too.
The Tales series seems to be in decline WW from what I've seen.
It should've done better than previous Tales games IMO.
That just makes it worse.
There was quite a few internal changes around the time Xillia came out and it shows. It also looks like they are being given less money to work with as well.
France and Germany are still a very good market for jrpg even though UK is weak
gundamkyoukai
Member
Wait people do know that tales is a very low selling series over here right ?
Tales of Graces F: ~63K
Tales of Xillia: ~103K
Tales of Xillia 2: ~44K
First month sales not counting DD
Tales of Graces F: ~63K
Tales of Xillia: ~103K
Tales of Xillia 2: ~44K
First month sales not counting DD
RedAssedApe
Banned
its kind of fun though :\
Hero of Legend
Member
I highly agree. Symphonia did better than Xillia as pointed out above on a much lower install base and a likely less RPG popular system (if you know what I mean, PS3 was the RPG console last gen).
Dawn of the New World did very comparable numbers to Vesperia in NA didn't it?
On top of that, didn't Abyss 3DS sell quite well, especially for being a basic port of a 7 year-old game at the time?
Yep
Could get other XB1 SKUs plus Halo on the side for less than the bundle. That bundle was about maximizing profits off the hardcore, not pushing consoles.
With a $150 price difference I'm not for sure why people are acting so surprised.
These same people must have been even more shocked last Nov/Dec when XB1 had more sales which were primarily driven due to price differences
Jarod McChicken
Member
Well, Disgaea 5 is a niche T-RPG and DQ Heroes a spin off beat'em all.
Maybe Star Ocean V could provide a better example ? Or FFXV... or Persona 5.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Why ?
It was a late port that BN hardly put any effort into it .
The game has slow down even on PS4 lol.
opticalmace
Member
Thanks cream! Much appreciated.
Bruno MB
Member
Tales of Vesperia - 37,000 (1 month)
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World - 96,000 (2 months)
Tales of the Abyss 3DS - 30,000 (1 month)
James Scott
Banned
Not sure if that's good for Chibi Robo, but congrats at not getting last place I guess?
Please don't die, chibi