Spyder_Monkey
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I doubt this is the handheld though. A design like that would be impractical for showing actual gameplay. A controller with dynamically chaninging buttons though would be the best use for such a design.
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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?
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Almost too much detail to be fake.
KojiKnight
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Why? It's honestly not that much more space than my cellphone which is 90% screen.
Unless they are on the bleeding edge of haptics, I don't think this is a realistic expectation.
This seems more like really bad game design ideasYou really should let the developers just surprise you instead of thinking about bad game design options .
Yeah, let the developers figure out the usefulness of Nintendo's weird ideas.
That always works well. Have we forgotten the Wii-U gamepad that quickly?
ForsakenLotus
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For one it's an oddly shaped screen. But putting that aside, there are two circle shaped segments of the screen that would be missing do to the "stick" areas, so there are spaces in what you see. Furthermore, the side areas will be obscured by the hands holding them as well as when you are pressing the buttons. So it's all basically just wasted space at best and possibly obscures relevant in game stuff at worst.
It's super gimmicky. I legitimately wonder if many of the people in here saying they like it are doing so because of its association with Nintendo, because this looks awkward and impractical to use and strange too boot.
I'm waiting for someone to put the Assassin's Creed IV placeholder art from the U4 trailer onto the screen
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If this is an interactive demo, it could just be a camera zoom. Or camera position moved closer to the rocks.
Your cellphone isn't constantly running video.
Those don't look that great to use, unfortunately. Hopefully they're a circle pad/joystick hybrid.
Actually, they look similar to the c-stick on a gamecube controller.
Seeing that Unreal tech demo video, it is concerning that the image in the NX photo seems to be stretched out, rather then the 'middle area' being the full screen with the rest being a bigger fov. Like this:
Go frames further. The resolution is different not stretched.
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Iwata mentioned the ease of porting being a goal for their next system. Nintendo is also interested in entering the mobile space. Since this thing will be totally touch, maybe the "WiiWare" type releases will land on NX handheld first, then possibly be ported to other mobile platforms or get spiritual successors through gameplay and brands that might be successful on their own hardware?
I always envisioned this kind of device, it's weird seeing it potentially come to fruition. The implementation of actual sticks within a screen space is cool and seems so futuristic, but that's where the gimmick stops. I really hope the first round software showcases make this appealing.
I also hope retro purchases on WiiU get carried over to this, because you know they're going to milk out the VC appeal, but they've done that enough already.
I always envisioned this kind of device, it's weird seeing it potentially come to fruition. The implementation of actual sticks within a screen space is cool and seems so futuristic, but that's where the gimmick stops. I really hope the first round software showcases make this appealing.
I also hope retro purchases on WiiU get carried over to this, because you know they're going to milk out the VC appeal, but they've done that enough already.
KojiKnight
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It really only makes sense as a handheld. The non-standard joysticks, no controller grips, UE4 mobile demo running on it....
Throwaway123456789
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This
Made/makes me think he is in the Ninty secret party in some way.
Come on, that's not good enough at all.
It's a demo by epic, not by nintendo. It seems very likely that they just use the ARM based version of unreal 4 to show that it does indeed run well on the device. That's all the demo needs to do.
On the other hand this may be only running that demo on that small screen, which may have a smaller resolution then a typical 1080 p or even smaller internal resolution then 720p. We don't know the resolution of that screen.
Maybe I could deal with the odd shape, or the fact that my hands would cover a sizeable portion of the display. But I won't pay any money for a console that has touch screen buttons on the controller. Having zero tactile feedback and having to look at the controller constantly would be a disaster. Driving a car with touch controls for the radio and climate control gives me all the information that I need for exactly how useful the end product would be.
This HAS to be fake. I simply refuse to believe that Nintendo would release something like this. Although at this point I might be giving them too much credit.
This HAS to be fake. I simply refuse to believe that Nintendo would release something like this. Although at this point I might be giving them too much credit.
I had never tried haptic feedback, so if the Steam controller is a good representation of haptic feedback, it's CRAP.
Also, what the heck are people on about UE4 mobile benchmark being impressive. People are acting as if it is equal to an advanced UE4 demo? Whaat?
This shows that NX may be extremely low end, if anything. I mean you can buy a FULL Smartphone for $200 that does this if not better...
Those don't look that great to use, unfortunately. Hopefully they're a circle pad/joystick hybrid.
Actually, they look similar to the c-stick on a gamecube controller.
Dunno I kinda like the look of them. Would reserve my judgement until tried though, obviously.
I see this failing harder than the Wii U. At least the concept behind that controller made some sense and could still function like a regular controller with an unobstructed screen and actual face buttons to feel while you were staring at your TV. But even that failed, and instead of learning from trying to be wildly different, Nintendo is going all in on the most fucked up controller yet.
bennywhatever
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I think the thing that gets me the most isn't the screen or the joysticks, it's the large cord coming from it. Even the 3DS used something akin to MicroUSB for charging. So what is this bigass cord for?
As far as I know, Rosti isn't an insider in the sense that he works for a developer. He does a lot of digging and figures out shit.
However, since he has gotten semi-famous for that, I think people have started contacting him behind the scene with things they know so he might have some sources now.
That stuff would actually be less likely to happen, because in theory it shouldn't be "cutting off corners" and should instead just be extending the screen beyond what it would naturally be. The game world still exists off screen, so if all you're doing is extending the screen while keeping the game world as it is, then you're gaining vision, not losing it. As long as the basic 16:9 shape remains unobscured in the middle, then the rest of the screen allows for auxillary or peripheral vision which would actually increase the likelyhood of you seeing the sniper or projectile earlier, giving you more information than you would get normally, and aiding in your ability to play the game at a higher level. And in the times when you don't see the sniper or projectile, you still aren't losing anything because they're in the peripheral, which is still more information than you would get on a normal sized screen. Would be better if it had real buttons and an ergonomic shape, but the idea of extended the normal screen size further isn't a bad one for gameplay. Maybe for cost, but not for gameplay.
And minimaps always block a portion of the screen and never really work well on smaller screens anyway, so that's a non-argument.
LegendofLex
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I take it you've never seen a devkit before.
I could see it being a mostly functional devkit controller, with the real controller being unveiled when Nintendo actually announces the system.
Remember the Rayman Legends leak? That happened in April 2012, and still showed the "old" Wii U GamePad. The real one was revealed in June at E3.
At this point i'm guessing everyone is just hoping this is one of the many prototypes that ended up in the bin halfway through R&D.
Opus Angelorum
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Most likely a development connector that can send more information.
yep, I'm still waiting to be surprised by the wiiu gamepad. And you can argue that one had more possibilities than this.
That could be something plugged to some sort of device that is powering the prototype. Maybe the device still doesn't have the "computer stuff" inside and gets it from outside and the port acts as a "HDMI" of some sort.
Well the good news out of this is that NCL will have a piece of hardware modern enough to run UE4.
amstradcpc
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Could be:
Portable console = 1 Snapdragon 820 SOC for a 720p resolution.
Desktop console = 2 x Snapdragon 820 SOCs for a 1080p resolution.
You play the same version of the games independently if you do so on the console or in the portable. And the portable is also the desktops console controller.
Mysterious
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Rosti is not a good enough reason to prove this is real.
ElectricBlanketFire
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That would be a disaster.
Del Boca Vista
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i love the comments like "gimmie a pro controller or no thanks, Nintendo" lol such a closed minded approach to games, you don't need to hold a controller with all the buttons you know in all the places you want to enjoy a game, sheesh, a bit of innovation never hurt the industry did it
The Rosti post is intentionally vague and does not actually mean anything. "This should not have been exposed" does not mean "This is real final hardware." He could very well be making people freak out over an unused prototype. I think he was banking on people jumping to conclusions.
well...we don't know what it does, comparatively.
Graphics Horse
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whatever height it is it's sure to be pretty wide. Ratio looks around 3:1? So 1440x480 for example.
but you could avoid processing around a quarter of the pixels that aren't used.
I'm probably the only person in the world who wants a normal-ass, GameCube-like controller. I'm tired of gimmicks, to be honest. The Wii U rarely used all of the gamepad features to full extent and I haven't used the 3D on my 3DS XL in a long time. Huh. Personal preference, I guess.
Also, he has no reason to risk his account over this. He's also not defending anything, just putting what he knew out there.
What he knows might just be "the dev version looks exactly like the leaked patent" - which seems like the kind of thing people might send to the person who actually investigates and explains those patents on neogaf.
Rosti's post just confirms that the "leak" is not fake. We know that this prototype or thing is not real, not by far, but it's the closest thing we got.
LSauchelli
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I was wondering about the lack of grips. I imagine they might want it like that so it can also be used as the next evolution of the wii remote.
Wishmaster92
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Finally we find out where it's from!
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