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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?

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Nabbis

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You were 100% in on those two concepts but this somehow is the breaking point?

If this is the real deal (or at least the real concept) it is, at the very least, interesting. That's enough to get me taking a serious look. Who the hell knows if the thing will deliver, but it's going to be a fun ride.

I have a hard time giving a single fuck about this "innovation" considering that we have VR arriving at the same time. There's also not much reason to believe in this getting the support it needs to thrive, Wii U controller is a nice example of that.
 

Acheteedo

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Huh, so it might be legit. If the final product is going for the same approach then that is maybe the worst thing I've ever seen, guaranteed instaflop. What. Are. You. Thinking. Nintendo?
 

low-G

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$250-$300 the final consumer version if this is real prototype, just a guess.

Full namebrand smartphones with this hardware capacity sell for $200 or even less.

So, without full smartphone functionality / 4G / what have you, this hardware would cost Nintendo significantly less to make, barring the screen itself, which is just weird.

Even still, AND with the Nintendo markup, I think $250 wouldn't be unreasonable, but I think $300 is too high.

Then again, with the way hardware makers are marking up their hardware DRASTICALLY these days, you may be spot on at $300... Just... who will buy it?
 

bomblord1

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Does anyone here have experience with haptic feedback? Does it really give you the feeling of buttons?

Newer technologies can. There's tons of demos of different ways to do it Disney has a tech demonstration out that can change the texture of the screen. There are also some that can provide voltage to different areas to make the screen physically rise and depress on touch.

No released consumer products use it though to my knowledge.
 

RaidenXZ

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If this is real, which I'm still torn about since I thought it was 100% fake and then GAF went all detective on it, I just hope this controller is the prototype to show off their idea and the real deal at least has physical buttons or is at the very least more ergonomic for the hand
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
so we start buying into any post as long as its trying to be cryptic right

If it is from somebody as trustworthy as Rosti? Probably so. He has been here for a while doing research into patents and has always been a good source of information. Don't see why he'd randomly blow up his account over this.
 

javac

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It's because the picture was rotated.

Looking at it this way, is better:
R_fElouW%20large-noscale.jpg

Holy shit I just noticed the scroller on the top where the shoulder buttons usually go 0_o
 

Kouriozan

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I remember when it was the Wii U's Gamepad that was rumored to have haptic feedback (feeling of different textures), that was a fun time.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
This seems more like really bad game design ideas :) You really should let the developers just surprise you instead of thinking about bad game design options .

Then you're back into the problem where developers have to spend a lot more money and time either porting to this weird gimmick, or going all in exclusively on it.

Developers are quite fond of being able to easily plop things across from PC to PS4 and Xbox One. Less work jumping through hoops, more returns. Hell, the similarity between VR platforms means people can count on easier porting too.

All Nintendo had to do this generation was hunker down, make some hybrid well powered system or very similar handheld and console offerings and deliver good content available across both. If this thing pans out, they've already found the way to fuck themselves with a wildly expensive gimmick just like the WiiU gamepad. Its just insanity.

Just as VR arrives to deliver a concave/360 degree view, Nintendo choose to focus on convex and all the limitations with that. I guess I shouldnt be surprised.
 
The core people aren't too happy, and will the noncore people be interested? Trying to get them to drop their phones and tablets seems like a losing proposition.

There are so many variables here it's impossible to come to a logical conclusion. It might be super affordable and looks futuristic enough to grab casual folks as an impulse buy, it night have varying control options, it might be very powerful or very weak.

No matter what this is the only route Nintendo can afford to take. A traditional console would fail. At least with this there's a weirdness to it that's intriguing.
 

Doctre81

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Newer technologies can. There's tons of demos of different ways to do it Disney has a tech demonstration out that can change the texture of the screen. There are also some that can provide voltage to different areas to make the screen physically rise and depress on touch.

No released consumer products use it though to my knowledge.

Wow. Now that is interesting.
 

21XX

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I have a hard time giving a single fuck about this "innovation" considering that we have VR arriving at the same time. There's also not much reason to believe in this getting the support it needs to thrive, Wii U controller is a nice example of that.

I don't disagree with you. All I'm saying is that the reveal, the marketing, the games -- it'll all be, at the very very least, interesting to watch. Whether it thrives or dies is another thing entirely.
 

Pastry

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that just makes me convinced this reddit user screencapped an obscure tech demo video and photoshopped it into this fake picture

fake

Downgraded a tech demo, screen capped it and then photoshopped it? Yeah that's a lot of work for a fake.
 

The_Lump

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It could be displaying the full length of the video. But it can also be a framerate indicator.


First off, the Youtube version of the video is actually 1:04 long.

Even so, If you think the 62.72 is referring to the length of the video then you're essentially agreeing its a fake, fyi (which is fine of course!):

Why would a real devkit be playing a youtube video of a tech demo exactly? And why would a timestamp be displaying only the total length of said video? Makes no sense to me.

If we are assuming this is real, then we have to asusme this is a tech demo running on the hardware and therefore would only logically be a FPS counter (as you see in any tech demo thats)
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
All Nintendo had to do this generation was hunker down, make some hybrid well powered system or very similar handheld and console offerings and deliver good content available across both. If this thing pans out, they've already found the way to fuck themselves with a wildly expensive gimmick just like the WiiU gamepad. Its just insanity.

Except there is zero evidence this is true. They may finally be at a niche point in the game where they don't fit in the normal console space. They're probably much better off at this point offering something unique and cheap (not saying this will be) than expensive and similar to PS4/XB1.

I just don't see Nintendo drawing in the GAF crowd any more. Too many things would keep them away. They're probably better off marketing stuff like this that is somewhat unique.
 

Instro

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Not really. Companies have been working on programmable haptics that can give the sensation of different textures for different things on screen now for several years.

I agree, but as far as I am aware there is nothing beyond the concept/demo form that would allow you to feel a differentiation between buttons before pressing them.

The Bosch demo from CES is bleeding edge if they can implement something like that into a controller and get it to production. That's assuming the tech is even battery effiecient. None of that sounds like Nintendo, a company who prefers to make use of established existing technology.
 

ChaosXVI

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I mean, if something was going to leak, this week would certainly be the time with GDC and all. I'm sure Nintendo has all kinds of secret showings of it behind closed doors.
 
I'm guessing most games will just use the center space for the game, which seems perfect for playing off-screen.

That just leaves the space around the sticks for controls. Haptic feedback = touchscreen, right?

Maybe they pop out of the touchscreen to make air bubble buttons. Isn't that a technological thing? Lol
 

bomblord1

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Downgraded a tech demo, screen capped it and then photoshopped it? Yeah that's a lot of work for a fake.

Don't forget the image on the screen doesn't show any signs of being shopped onto it so the picture would have to be applied in a different manner. (Cutout picture?)
 

Smellycat

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First off, the Youtube video is actually 1:04 long.

Even so, If you think the 62.72 is referring to the length of the video then you're essentially thinking its a fake.

Why would a real devkit be playing a youtube video of a tech demo exactly? And why would a timestamp be displaying only the total length of said video?

Oh :(
 

Galava

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I mean, if something was going to leak, this week would certainly be the time with GDC and all. I'm sure Nintendo has all kinds of secret showings of it behind closed doors.

Yep. And the silence of most gaming websites regarding this "leak" except from destructoid concerns me.
 
There are so many variables here it's impossible to come to a logical conclusion. It might be super affordable and looks futuristic enough to grab casual folks as an impulse buy, it night have varying control options, it might be very powerful or very weak.

No matter what this is the only route Nintendo can afford to take. A traditional console would fail. At least with this there's a weirdness to it that's intriguing.

I am 100% on the train that Nintendo can't just make a traditional console, they need to make something outside the box with some kind of hook. But it has to be the right kind of hook. That "hook" being again some kind of touch/tablet screen just seems like they are barking up the wrong tree, chasing an audience that doesn't want them. You aren't going to wow people with touch screen type gaming in 2016, especially not when consumer VR is dropping in that same time frame and probably stealing all their headlines.
 

Schnozberry

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I agree, but as far as I am aware there is nothing beyond the concept/demo form that would allow you to feel a differentiation between buttons before pressing them.

Nintendo would be the first to use it in the gaming space, certainly, but that doesn't necessarily make it a bad idea.
 

E-phonk

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Then you're back into the problem where developers have to spend a lot more money and time either porting to this weird gimmick, or going all in exclusively on it.
It doesn't have to be. Nintendo could provide a "standard button" controller they can drop in their project with an optimal classical configuration.

Then they'd just need their UI designer to make a better layout for certain elements.
 
First off, the Youtube video is actually 1:04 long.

Even so, If you think the 62.72 is referring to the length of the video then you're essentially thinking its a fake.

Why would a real devkit be playing a youtube video of a tech demo exactly? And why would a timestamp be displaying only the total length of said video?

Devkits do not need to have the slick, polished UI that you seem to think they should have.
 

bomblord1

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I think you guys are freaking out about the "whole screen"

I'm guessing most games will just use the center space for the game, which seems perfect for playing off-screen.

That just leaves the space around the sticks for controls. Haptic feedback = touchscreen, right?

Maybe they pop out of the touchscreen to make air bubble buttons. Isn't that a technological thing? Lol

That is exactly the point. Don't forget this from the patent this picture is based on.
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Traditional 16x9 box in the center of the screen.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I am 100% on the train that Nintendo can't just make a traditional console, they need to make something outside the box with some kind of hook. But it has to be the right kind of hook. That "hook" being again some kind of touch/tablet screen just seems like they are barking up the wrong tree, chasing an audience that doesn't want them. You aren't going to wow people with touch screen type gaming in 2016, especially not when consumer VR is dropping in that same time frame and probably stealing all their headlines.

Agreed, but we still know nothing else about this thing. That's why the whole "this will kill Nintendo!!!!" stuff is maddening. The hook doesn't have to be the controller.
 
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