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WWE Mafia |OT| Royal Rumble Superstars of Wrestling MMXVI
- Thread starter nin1000
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Blargonaut
Banned
ASPIRE TO BE MORE
BE ALL YOU CAN BE
BE ALL YOU CAN BE
Blargonaut
Banned
WE CAN DO THIS
I BELIEVE IN YOU
WIN
I BELIEVE IN YOU
WIN
Blargonaut
Banned
¬_¬
pls
pls
Blargonaut
Banned
...I should be contributing right now, shouldn't I
Nah, you are doing great.
Blargonaut
Banned
I wasn't talking to you
I am.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Kawl_USC (2)
squidyj .1470
Blargonaut .1563
Bronx-Man (2)
cabot .1448
CornBurrito .1520
ScraftyDevil (2)
Burbeting .1416
SalvaPot .1453
SalvaPot (1)
nukedeggs .1399
StanleyPalmtree (1)
Palmer_v1 .1510
nukedeggs (0)
cabot .1411 .1448
No active vote for Day 2:
batsnacks
Bronx-Man
Kawl_USC
Matt Attack
RobotNinjaHornets
ScraftyDevil
StanleyPalmtree
Terrabyte20xx
ultron87
Day 2 ends:
9 votes for majority
Kawl_USC (2)
squidyj .1470
Blargonaut .1563
Bronx-Man (2)
cabot .1448
CornBurrito .1520
ScraftyDevil (2)
Burbeting .1416
SalvaPot .1453
SalvaPot (1)
nukedeggs .1399
StanleyPalmtree (1)
Palmer_v1 .1510
nukedeggs (0)
No active vote for Day 2:
batsnacks
Bronx-Man
Kawl_USC
Matt Attack
RobotNinjaHornets
ScraftyDevil
StanleyPalmtree
Terrabyte20xx
ultron87
Day 2 ends:
9 votes for majority
I went back and reviewed Kawl's posts and behavior yesterday, and I also read back over Squidy's old posts about his reasoning for voting Kawl. It seems like the reasoning has been holding up really well. I will quote it here:
This is striking, especially in light of how so many of town's scum suspects ended up being town, I can really see how a scum-dominated discussion D1 chose to deliberately ignore Kawl. The opinions that Kawl's been putting out have continued to be too safe, and he hasn't really hunted for scum throughout all of this.
I'm beginning to really be convinced that Squid's on to something. Squidy, anything else about Kawl that has made you feel more strongly about him recently? I'm feeling like he deserves some pressure.
Vote: Kawl_USC
This is striking, especially in light of how so many of town's scum suspects ended up being town, I can really see how a scum-dominated discussion D1 chose to deliberately ignore Kawl. The opinions that Kawl's been putting out have continued to be too safe, and he hasn't really hunted for scum throughout all of this.
I'm beginning to really be convinced that Squid's on to something. Squidy, anything else about Kawl that has made you feel more strongly about him recently? I'm feeling like he deserves some pressure.
Vote: Kawl_USC
Blargonaut
Banned
finally
Blargonaut
Banned
brb
CornBurrito
Member
Hmm... Burb, Salva, Ultron as the initial Scrafty voters.
Unfortunately two of those are people I've felt not so great about.
Has Scrafty checked in today btw?
Unfortunately two of those are people I've felt not so great about.
Has Scrafty checked in today btw?
CornBurrito
Member
Burb what do you think about Bronx?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
LA DIABLA has returned to the ring for the second round! And this time, she's got a bone to pick with the clever superstar known only as CORN! BURRRRRRRRRRRITOOOOOOOOOO!
Now, this is only a theory of LA DIABLA's but humour her for a second. Corn was all over squidy yesterday and was adamant that his role was a BIG FAT PHONY (which some could argue was his ONLY point of conversation yesterday), and at the height of this rabid pursuit was pressed by LA DIABLA. His response was a very blunt answer followed by retracting the vote that he had been pressing so hard.
Now he claims this was just because no one was going to go along with a squidy lynch, but LA DIABLA finds the timing to be quite suspect. To LA DIABLA it reads like he's attempting not to stand out after having a spotlight shined on him, if you smell what LA DIABLA's cooking.
In addition, he has had a rather flimsy stance aside from his insistence that squidy was lying and needed to die yesterday. After squidy proved his FACE-ness, Corn quietly faded into the background for the rest of the day, only speaking up to speculate on mechanics and other such affairs. LA DIABLA will admit, his reads post today was quite clever indeed...trying to throw people off the scent of his passivity is a nice trick.
BUT NOTHING GETS PAST LA DIABLA
VOTE: CornBurrito
Also, LA DIABLA's thoughts on last night's FOUR-WAY BLOODBATH:
- Magnumboy shot Retro because he wanted to off someone who seemed suspicious
- A HEEL killed Magnumboy because they didn't want a threat running around
- Kalor hid behind either Retro or Magnumboy because both claimed PR and was killed when either MB shot Retro or a HEEL offed MB
- Splinter tried to give a gift to a dangerous customer and was killed in the process
LA DIABLA apologizes if anything has come up within the THREE HOURS that this post has been cooking, as she's been busy PUTTING IN WORK all afternoon.
So I've given players 2 opportunities to comment on an idea and now I'm going to reveal something.
Someone approached me last night. They could have been a man, a woman, a small child, or perhaps some sort of human alien hybrid (probably not a full alien though). I could not tell which for they were shrouded in mystery.
Someone approached me last night. They could have been a man, a woman, a small child, or perhaps some sort of human alien hybrid (probably not a full alien though). I could not tell which for they were shrouded in mystery.
Inventive claim.
I AM NOT FINISHED.
You were visited first by a man in chains.
Oh right, the individual that approached me attempted to take from me my very identity, that which I am, leaving me as little more than a shell, a mere ordinary WWF Superstar.
Needless to say they failed in their attempt but be on the lookout, lest you too are accosted by such thuggery in the night.
Needless to say they failed in their attempt but be on the lookout, lest you too are accosted by such thuggery in the night.
CornBurrito
Member
Scrafty, you really think it was unreasonable for me to believe squidy was a big fat liar?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Not at all. LA DIABLA thought that his role was a lie too, but one that came from a place of innocence. LA DIABLA just thinks it's suspicious that you backed off when you did and then faded into the background once squidy worked his money-making magic.
I think it was somewhat less reasonable to jump to the conclusion that i was a scum-sided liar.
That is not the direction I thought you were going. I honestly thought you were going to claim an inventor gifted you something so you could bait killers after you used your ability up.
It's important info, though I wonder why you instead of the Vig or maybe Retro? If I could steal abilities as scum, magnum would have been choice #1.
CornBurrito
Member
Eh what? So besides being a 1 shot day cop you also can tell what roles tried to target you?
So you're a 1 shot ascetic day cop self watcher style thing?
CornBurrito
Member
I sort of did put all my D1 eggs into the "squidy is lying and scum" basket. But I don't think I faded into the background as much as you're trying to make it sound.
I was merely notified that this action was attempted against me. I make no claims about sources of protections or reasons for notifications.
CornBurrito
Member
I'm getting mild Xamxiety but ok.
CornBurrito
Member
On the off chance the vanilla-user is town, what happens if they target Burb? Does Burb become vanilla town?
CornBurrito
Member
Vanilla-izer
you thunk it just makes Squidy ordinary? I was thinking it steals abilities.
Hey Scrafty! Thanks for checking in with your opinion. Your calling out of CornBurrito made me remember something - namely, the words of Retro and Splinter, which I'll quote here (I snipped Splinter's post a little for space, but click on the link to get to the rest of her list):
So both Retro and Splinter suspected scum, but for some reason, some of their suspicions never gained traction. If scum is really controlling Town narrative, I think it's important to look at the opinions of dead confirmed Town, especially when it comes to who they suspected as scum.
...but not just anyone they suspected as scum. We should be taking a look at their scum suspicions that 'slipped through the cracks' yesterday. Why didn't Corn ever face heavy fire? For that matter, why didn't Terra? I think those two were their big 'overlap' suspects that for some reason never seemed to be the dominant subject of discussion.
What do people think?
So both Retro and Splinter suspected scum, but for some reason, some of their suspicions never gained traction. If scum is really controlling Town narrative, I think it's important to look at the opinions of dead confirmed Town, especially when it comes to who they suspected as scum.
...but not just anyone they suspected as scum. We should be taking a look at their scum suspicions that 'slipped through the cracks' yesterday. Why didn't Corn ever face heavy fire? For that matter, why didn't Terra? I think those two were their big 'overlap' suspects that for some reason never seemed to be the dominant subject of discussion.
What do people think?
Happy Easter everyone.
So... mafia tried to turn you into vanilla town... after you used your role... and mafia failed and you were notified that mafia tried this and that they failed.
That's what you want people to believe?
So... mafia tried to turn you into vanilla town... after you used your role... and mafia failed and you were notified that mafia tried this and that they failed.
That's what you want people to believe?
TB is next on my list after Stanley checks in. Cornb, I'm less concerned with since he's fairly active. Unlike some, he seems to be contributing to scum hunting today. It's too easy for scum to just stay quiet though when town is spinning it's wheels after a Night like that.
CornBurrito
Member
Yes I interpreted it as it just making him vanilla.
Either is possible. I'm not certain which would be more plausible though.
I can't imagine either version is town.
Ah, fuck. Call it a hunch.
Vote: Kawl_USC
Scum or neutral who really didn't want to risk squidyj using the ability on him if it wasn't 1-shot. If I'm right, he's probably Neutral. Scum would just kill squidyj.
A neutral role that wins by Vanillaizing X power roles. Wouldn't prevent town from winning, though it's probably more anti-town than anti-scum.
Maybe this was Nin's trolly way to try and punish role claimers. We've had a lot of mos attempt it.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
I think the big reason why these didn't much, if any traction is because they didn't tunnel us. Look at the vote count: I have all of two, a prod vote from Scrafty and a vote from splinter. Corn only has one from Retro. If some REALLY feels someone else is scum, they have to take a more Darryl-like approach.
Yep!
Out of the confirmed towns, I am thinking that magnum was the easiest target for mafia yesterday. Scrafty, seath, and retro all had defenders. I don't think magnum had a single person defend him. Mafia is probably taking that easy target.
Out of the magnum voters kawl sticks out most to me. So maybe kawl could flesh out his magnum read a little more.
Out of the magnum voters kawl sticks out most to me. So maybe kawl could flesh out his magnum read a little more.
Sure, but I also feel like a lot of the ideas that ended up gaining momentum were due to a general consensus that organically formed, rather than a single person tunneling hard. Retro and Seath didn't seem to have anybody going extremely hard against them, yet conversation still centered around them, and wagons formed. So I don't think it's particularly due to a lack of effort.
Normally I'd probably say that the reasons that these ideas didn't take off were just that they weren't good enough or didn't have enough evidence behind them. But given how off-target our discussions were D1, I'm pretty suspicious of scum's influence over the conversation.
Hmmm yeah now that you mention it, it does seem like a role like this would fit the design of this game. There seem to be a lot of roles floating around based on the flips, and this kind of neutral can act as 'balancing out' the amount of power roles there are.
But this is just a hunch, and I don't want to base too much on it. I mainly think Kawl's behavior in general sticks out as scum staying active enough to avoid suspicion while not putting any controversial opinions out there.
That's a good point. I was tunneling Magnum pretty hard yesterday, but I remember no one really challenging me on my opinions other than you and Splinter. I also remember Splinter asking people to justify why they're voting for Magnum, but I was the only one who responded. In retrospect, I really should have realized how strange that was.
I'm about to go to sleep, but I'm thinking that scum's modus operandi this game seems to be to validate Town suspicions of other Town, and ignore or dismiss Town suspicions of scum. For example, Seath gained traction incredibly fast in the last few posts of the day, and was casually thrown around as a suspicious person early in the day, because people - multiple people, IIRC - kept bringing Seath up, casually. The suspicion of Seath didn't fade away, like other suspicions. I feel like it was brought up every now and then, just enough to keep suspicion of Seath alive in Town.
It was kinda like me and my suspicions of Magnum. I noticed that when I aired out my suspicions of Salva, it got a tiny bit of traction before becoming quickly dismissed and somehow people became redirected back on to the topic of Scrafty vs Magnum, which then morphed to Scrafty vs Seath.
Anyways, getting some validation for my Magnum suspicion made me feel like I was really onto something, when in reality, it could just be scum giving my theory a little sunlight and water and letting it grow into something that let to Magnum claiming and scum chuckling and giving themselves high fives over getting yet another Town to claim. Whereas with SalvaPot, I had a bit of doubt because people kept talking about how they couldn't really read Salva, how Salva's just like that, etc etc etc whereas with Magnum it had one or two people saying that, but nowhere near as much as Salva's.
It was kinda like me and my suspicions of Magnum. I noticed that when I aired out my suspicions of Salva, it got a tiny bit of traction before becoming quickly dismissed and somehow people became redirected back on to the topic of Scrafty vs Magnum, which then morphed to Scrafty vs Seath.
Anyways, getting some validation for my Magnum suspicion made me feel like I was really onto something, when in reality, it could just be scum giving my theory a little sunlight and water and letting it grow into something that let to Magnum claiming and scum chuckling and giving themselves high fives over getting yet another Town to claim. Whereas with SalvaPot, I had a bit of doubt because people kept talking about how they couldn't really read Salva, how Salva's just like that, etc etc etc whereas with Magnum it had one or two people saying that, but nowhere near as much as Salva's.
Listen, my entire roleclaim seemed unbelievable didnt it? but it was the truth. It was as real as wrestling, and so is this.