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[Gold_Loot]

Why are people constantly bringing up Sega in this thread? They've never done anything like this, and don't say the 32X either. It's apples and oranges compared to this.

This is goign to be more like the N64 RAM upgrade. It won't break the current model, nor did it break the N64 back then.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

i'm weird...


i am against this idea, i don't like it...


...but i'd buy it.

I love it and will welcome you to the ps4 plus platinum experience. Gold visuals. Platinum sounds. Wins all around

 

[Papacheeks]

Reality will be forgotten and everyone will blame the ps4k for the ps4's limitations. This thread is just the beginning. The civil war will claim many



A dev already commented on it in this thread. It exists and will be released. It is a matter of when, not if. No April fools joke

So your saying Sony can't go back on something like this like Microsoft did after reception was piss poor?

Because if so the SOny ninja's would be out in full force if they didn't give a shit about how consumers may react to it.
If it does 100% come out, and all that jazz great. But until it does nothing is 100% set in stone.

Why are people constantly bringing up Sega in this thread? They've never done anything like this, and don't say the 32X either. It's apples and oranges compared to this.

This is goign to be more like the N64 RAM upgrade. It won't break the current model, nor did it break the N64 back then.

Guess you missed out on the sega CD. Played CD's games and supposedly better versions of games that were already released on genesis.

 

[RoadHazard]

Fair enough. I just rounded up 360 was still doing okay up until around 2014.

Why can't the ps4 be considered the ps5 though?

Assuming you meant to say PS4K. But anyway, because it's not anywhere even slightly close to a generational leap. A PS5 that could only run the same games as the PS4 but with a bit better performance and a bit better visuals (or significantly better in one area but not both) would be pathetic. Say what you will about how underpowered the PS4 is, but its best looking games really do look a generation better than what the PS3 could do. That will not be the case with the PS4K vs the PS4, not even close.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

So your saying Sony can't go back on something like this like Microsoft did after reception was piss poor?

Because if so the SOny ninja's would be out in full force if they didn't give a shit about how consumers may react to it.
If it does 100% come out, and all that jazz great. But until it does nothing is 100% set in stone.

This is going to be a UHD player. In many ways, it is the birth of PlayStation as a platform in the truest sense. It is the iPhone 3G. I know people the phone comparisons, but this is true

 

[CosmicQueso]

Delusion was never one of the steps of grief like that one guy posted earlier in the thread, was it?

 

[hokagespit]

i am happy with this, if they can keep a system that will play my ps6 games as well as my ps4 games i will continue to be so

 

[Papacheeks]

This is going to be a UHD player. In many ways, it is the birth of PlayStation as a platform in the truest sense. It is the iPhone 3G. I know people the phone comparisons, but this is true

If so, that fucking sucks so bad. I like the hype of traditional console generations.

 

[DavidDesu]

When you see multi-platform games being discussed there's so many PC and console owners who tell us they'll get the PC version due to knowing it will run better there than on their console. Higher framerates, higher resolution, some effects bumped up like draw distance or shadow quality.

PS4K is seemingly for those people who like that extra boost in game graphics, but for ALL OF US. We don't need a costly PC and to have to dip into the Windows ecosystem etc, we can do it all on the PlayStation platform, that many of us love and wilfully choose to take part in.

PS4K is that option, for those who want to get some shinier graphics and some additional 4K media benefits for the time when we have a 4K TV, and for those lucky enough to already own one to take better advantage of it. Seemingly it will be no more than $500 which is cheaper than a comparative PC would be to buy outright. And if you already have a library of PS4 games you bring them all to the new console, no issues at all.

This is not a bad deal.

Those crying wolf they're going to suddenly start building gaming PC's and be happy to miss the next great PS franchise games like The Last Of Us or Gran Turismo are just kidding themselves I think for the most part. Faux fury.

 

[Melchiah]

You know what to expect when you purchase a phone. You'll be replacing it in two years. How do you know this? Because that's how it's always worked. For consoles, how has it always worked? Every 5 years or so you get a new announcement. That's what people expected because that's how it always has been.

That is, it's always been that way in the smart phone age. Before the shift, people used Nokia 3310 here in Finland for ages. Things change without preceding announcements.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

If so, that fucking sucks so bad. I like the hype of traditional console generations.

Those aren't sustainable anymore. You have a whole generation that expects new annually, or just quicker than every 6 years. Wait too long and get lost in the shuffle. None of the competing CE products are gonna wait for consoles. They will eat into the market share and consoles will be forgotten if they don't adapt to a model that consumers are embracing

Sports analogy:

Baseball llst market share to the NFL and NBA because it failed to adapt to changing expectations. Does it still exist? Sure. However, baseball is far from the juggernaut it once was. The sport is still trying to find ways to recapture its former place. If you wait too long, you'll never catch up.

 

[Boylamite]

That's $650 Canadian. This will definitely push me out of the console space. Why would I buy a new console every 3 years with limited backwards compatibility when I can invest in PC upgrades to continue to enjoy my entire steam library?

Those crying wolf they're going to suddenly start building gaming PC's and be happy to miss the next great PS franchise game like The Last Of Us or Gran Turismo are just kidding themselves I think for the most part. Faux fury.

TBH There's not a lot of exclusives I care about that much. Bloodborne and Demon's Souls are really the only games that I would miss. I can live with getting a system on the cheap way later and catching up.

 

[Muzicfreq]

Or else what?

Lost customer.
Seriously
I think alot of members here don't think like an average consumer but as consumers with disposable income for things like this.

 

[Gold_Loot]

So your saying Sony can't go back on something like this like Microsoft did after reception was piss poor?

Because if so the SOny ninja's would be out in full force if they didn't give a shit about how consumers may react to it.
If it does 100% come out, and all that jazz great. But until it does nothing is 100% set in stone.



Guess you missed out on the sega CD. Played CD's games and supposedly better versions of games that were already released on genesis.

OK? Not the same there either.

All games work on all PS4s wether you have an upgrade or not. You couldn't play Sega CD games without the upgrade..

Like I said, apples and oranges.

 

[qa_engineer]

When you see multi-platform games being discussed there's so many PC and console owners who tell us they'll get the PC version due to knowing it will run better there than on their console. Higher framerates, higher resolution, some effects bumped up like draw distance or shadow quality.

PS4K is seemingly for those people who like that extra boost in game graphics, but for ALL OF US. We don't need a costly PC and to have to dip into the Windows ecosystem etc, we can do it all on the PlayStation platform, that many of us love and wilfully choose to take part in.

PS4K is that option, for those who want to get some shinier graphics and some additional 4K media benefits for the time when we have a 4K TV, and for those lucky enough to already own one to take better advantage of it. Seemingly it will be no more than $500 which is cheaper than a comparative PC would be to buy outright. And if you already have a library of PS4 games you bring them all to the new console, no issues at all.

This is not a bad deal.

Those crying wolf they're going to suddenly start building gaming PC's and be happy to miss the next great PS franchise games like The Last Of Us or Gran Turismo are just kidding themselves I think for the most part. Faux fury.

Stop making so much sense.

 

[DavidDesu]

That's $650 Canadian. This will definitely push me out of the console space. Why would I buy a new console every 3 years with limited backwards compatibility when I can invest in PC upgrades to continue to enjoy my entire steam library?

I think a huge factor in this and the x86 architecture used in both Sony and MS consoles this gen is about making games compatible going forward. Do you actually think PS4K won't play PS4 games..?

 

[Melchiah]

Sony is basically asking me to spend 1800€ in the coming months, if I want to get the best Playstation experience.

PSVR, 500€ for me because I need the bundle.
Ps4k 400-500€
In order for the Ps4k to make sense I need a 4k TV, and 4k TV only make sense when the have HDR, and I haven't seen one of those for less than 900€.

And I'm sure that like 95% of the Ps4 userbase is in the same camp.
Nobody has a 4k TV and most people don't have a Playstation cam or move controllers.

How does that differ from the last gen, when most people still had old tube TVs? If you wanted HD, you bought a new TV. The same as now.

 

[Muzicfreq]

I think a huge factor in this and the x86 architecture used in both Sony and MS consoles this gen is about making games compatible going forward. Do you actually think PS4K won't play PS4 games..?

Backward isn't the problem but I can see forward being the biggest issue due to devs making games more and more ambitious.

 

[Negotiator]

Lost customer.
Seriously
I think alot of members here don't think like an average consumer but as consumers with disposable income for things like this.

Truth be told, the average gamer age is 30+.

Sure, little kids/teenagers don't have any disposable income... I also didn't have the equivalent of $700 to buy 3DO back then. Those can keep their PS4s.

 

[Boylamite]

I think a huge factor in this and the x86 architecture used in both Sony and MS consoles this gen is about making games compatible going forward. Do you actually think PS4K won't play PS4 games..?

Of course I don't think that. But look, you're talking about a window that begins from 2012 and on. And even then, we're talking about exclusives.

 

[DavidDesu]

Stop making so much sense.

For those who've yet to dip into this generation it makes PSVR far more competitive with Oculus and Vive offerings because the console running it will be equally comparable, not that the PS4 itself is really in such a different realm, but yeah PS4K will be like a VR trained and ready specimen in comparison!

I think that makes sense too.

 

[valkillmore]

When you see multi-platform games being discussed there's so many PC and console owners who tell us they'll get the PC version due to knowing it will run better there than on their console. Higher framerates, higher resolution, some effects bumped up like draw distance or shadow quality.

PS4K is seemingly for those people who like that extra boost in game graphics, but for ALL OF US. We don't need a costly PC and to have to dip into the Windows ecosystem etc, we can do it all on the PlayStation platform, that many of us love and wilfully choose to take part in.

PS4K is that option, for those who want to get some shinier graphics and some additional 4K media benefits for the time when we have a 4K TV, and for those lucky enough to already own one to take better advantage of it. Seemingly it will be no more than $500 which is cheaper than a comparative PC would be to buy outright. And if you already have a library of PS4 games you bring them all to the new console, no issues at all.

This is not a bad deal.

Those crying wolf they're going to suddenly start building gaming PC's and be happy to miss the next great PS franchise games like The Last Of Us or Gran Turismo are just kidding themselves I think for the most part. Faux fury.

Well said

 

[geordiemp]

I even said the wii u manages to have a bunch of awesome games that run at 60 fps despite its potato hardware.

I am sure a most consoles including 360 and ps3 could do 1080p60 if it was a tetris game. Simpler graphics is easier to do obviously.

Look at garden warefare, that was 1080p60 on ps4 and a fully 3D shooter, but no way is witcher 3 getting there anytime soon.

 

[DavidDesu]

Backward isn't the problem but I can see forward being the biggest issue due to devs making games more and more ambitious.

But I think PS4K is a boost but it's not a true next step up like PS5 will inevitably be. As others have said it's like a game on high settings on PC versus medium or low on PS4. That's it. No games are likely going to be designed that take advantage of PS4K in any kind of way that can;t be scaled down for the PS4. Now, PS5 is likely to be that console with a whole raft of vastly updated components meaning PS4K and certainly PS4 will likely not run them, but that's reasonable.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Or else what?

:lol

 

[Muzicfreq]

Truth be told, the average gamer age is 30+.

Sure, little kids/teenagers don't have any disposable income... I also didn't have the equivalent of $700 to buy 3DO back then. Those can keep their PS4.

And with how many bills and other things that come in to play there's less and less money.
Phone, house, utilities, car, internet/TV, food
If the average Joe made $20+ and hour and had full time this would be fine but truth is part time minimum wage is like the thing these days or jobs the deserve $20+ an hour only get like $14.50 these days

 

[DavidDesu]

And with how many bills and other things that come in to play there's less and less money.
Phone, house, utilities, car, internet/TV, food
If the average Joe made $20+ and hour and had full time this would be fine but truth is part time minimum wage is like the thing these days or jobs the deserve $20+ an hour only get like $14.50 these days

Vote Bernie Sanders then, this is an entirely different discussion, hehe.

 

[spons]

And with how many bills and other things that come in to play there's less and less money.
Phone, house, utilities, car, internet/TV, food
If the average Joe made $20+ and hour and had full time this would be fine but truth is part time minimum wage is like the thing these days or jobs the deserve $20+ an hour only get like $14.50 these days

There's a product for poor people and it's going to be the PS4. If you have the money you get a PS4K. Sounds simple enough to me.

 

[Moneal]

And with how many bills and other things that come in to play there's less and less money.
Phone, house, utilities, car, internet/TV, food
If the average Joe made $20+ and hour and had full time this would be fine but truth is part time minimum wage is like the thing these days or jobs the deserve $20+ an hour only get like $14.50 these days

If this follows an incremental upgrade path, two systems get new games and one gets phased out when a new system comes out, this would be better for those people, such as myself. I can upgrade when ps4.5 comes out if I have the money, but if I don't I can wait till ps5 comes out and get ps4.5 cheap and its still have access to all previous library and new games till ps5.5 comes out.

 

[Scrotum Phillips]

And with how many bills and other things that come in to play there's less and less money.
Phone, house, utilities, car, internet/TV, food
If the average Joe made $20+ and hour and had full time this would be fine but truth is part time minimum wage is like the thing these days or jobs the deserve $20+ an hour only get like $14.50 these days

I mean, this is the case with literally every purchase ever made. You weigh the pros and cons of it. If you have more pressing monetary issues or you don't see the value at the price it's offered, then you don't purchase it. Simple as that.

Also, with the newer models coming out, it's extremely likely "base" PS4's will see a heavy discount and more will be able to afford a PS4 and I'm positive the "base" PS4 will be more than serviceable for years to come.

Just because Sony is offering a new Playstation, you aren't obligated to purchase it. There's obviously plenty of value of jumping in later if you wish.

But this idea of holding back technology that is available that a portion of their audience wants and not making older PS4 obsolete sounds great to me.

 

[gossi]

I am sure a most consoles including 360 and ps3 could do 1080p60 if it was a tetris game.

Quake 2 on Xbox 360 ran at 1080p 60fps locked. It was released 10 years ago.

 

[Melchiah]

Wrong, again I didn't say it had no games. I said it had no good games, particularly exclusives. I mentioned that it had decent games but I guess reading comprehension is not really your thing?

It's the same thing, and what's always been behind the claim. It's not like people are claiming the exclusives don't exist. You have to have a pretty narrow taste if nothing has been to your liking during the past 28 months.

 

[Josman]

I facepalm so freaking hard at people thinking Sony is forcing them to buy a 4KTV, my god...

1.- No one is going to make 4K games because twice as powerfull is not enough and because developers would be limiting to 1℅ of the install base. It'll probably be PS4 games running at 60fps which is amazing.

2. It's just a faster PS4 and it wont make the normal console obsolete, it's the equivalent of having to play your Steam games on a 750ti machine or a gtx760, you still have full access to your library but it runs better on the former.

3. I'd hate to be stuck with old hardware 6 years or more

 

[DavidDesu]

Having a think. People buy a phone on contract, usually a 2 year contract these days. In that time the next iteration of their phone is released a year later, and in the android sphere many more powerful devices are released. That's half way through your contract and the next step up is there. iPhone 6S, the S7 instead of S6, etc.

Imagine buying a console like a phone contract, except that two years is more like 6 or 7 (last gen was an anomaly). So EXACTLY half way through this generation (3-3.5 years) we now get an updated device, that can do some more things and do some things better.

So it is actually very similar to the phone contract model. All we need now is for Sony/MS to offer nice low interest payment plans like Samsung did for me to allow me to buy my S7 upfront. If they do that then I'm there day one, if not then PSVR takes precedence for me and I upgrade later on when it suits me best. But I'm ready for this.

 

[El_Chino]

They do if the leak was intentional to gauge reaction on something this big.

No, just no.

 

[DavidDesu]

I facepalm so freaking hard at people thinking Sony is forcing them to buy a 4KTV, my god...

1.- No one is going to make 4K games because twice as powerfull is not enough and because developers would be limiting to 1℅ of the install base. It'll probably be PS4 games running at 60fps which is amazing.

2. It's just a faster PS4 and it wont make the normal console obsolete, it's the equivalent of having to play your Steam games on a 750ti machine or a gtx760, you still have full access to your library but it runs better on the former.

3. I'd hate to be stuck with old hardware 6 years or more

All this but especially the bolded. People really need to think about this like running the same game on a high spec graphics card, and one on a lower spec. PC players are happy with this model, it suits their budget etc. Nobody loses out. PS4 games will keep coming out and they will be as good as they were ever going to be. The PS4K version will be nicer. End of really.

 

[Naudi]

Vote Bernie Sanders then, this is an entirely different discussion, hehe.

Only Bernie can save us now. Vote Bernie! PS4K for everyone! No but seriously feel the Bern

 

[Tagyhag]

All this but especially the bolded. People really need to think about this like running the same game on a high spec graphics card, and one on a lower spec. PC players are happy with this model, it suits their budget etc. Nobody loses out. PS4 games will keep coming out and they will be as good as they were ever going to be. The PS4K version will be nicer. End of really.

That's something that we have no guarantee of one way or the other.

What we DO know is that optimizing for console SKU's takes a much bigger priority than on PC.

There's a reason why games look and run better on consoles if you were to use the exact PC hardware.

People think that with the PS4K, games will be just as optimized for the PS4 as they are now, and then they'll just hit the "Better graphics/60fps" button for PS4K.

That's not how it works.

 

[Elandyll]

Sony is basically asking me to spend 1800€ in the coming months, if I want to get the best Playstation experience.

PSVR, 500€ for me because I need the bundle.
Ps4k 400-500€
In order for the Ps4k to make sense I need a 4k TV, and 4k TV only make sense when the have HDR, and I haven't seen one of those for less than 900€.

And I'm sure that like 95% of the Ps4 userbase is in the same camp.
Nobody has a 4k TV and most people don't have a Playstation cam or move controllers.

This will split the userbase and it will hurt Ps4 sales, at the same time the required investment for Ps4k is too high to appeal to as big of a market as the Ps4s appeals to.


I'm excited for it, but right now I can't imagine how Sony is going to make it a success.

Don't forget the house, to host such a beast.
Gotta be decent..

And the car... What are you going to bring back the 4k tv and PS4k to your new home with?

Friggin hell, $600k Sony is asking is to spend to remain up to date.

Not sure I can cover...

 

[ImThatDood]

I really don't get all of these "Pushed me out of console gaming" statements and the like. You don't have to buy this. New games will still work on your ps4, the same as they would if the ps4.5 never came out. It's similar to owning a PC, you don't have to have the most powerful machine to play the newest games. I don't see the problem. For the people thinking games will be made for ps4.5 and not ps4 they already said that is not going to happen. For those that think that ps4 games will be gimped, remember there is still the Xbox One out there that has a huge install base and will still need games made for it, which the ps4 will still be able to run slightly better. Waaaaaaay to much overreaction in here.

 

[Relique]

Having a think. People buy a phone on contract, usually a 2 year contract these days. In that time the next iteration of their phone is released a year later, and in the android sphere many more powerful devices are released. That's half way through your contract and the next step up is there. iPhone 6S, the S7 instead of S6, etc.

Imagine buying a console like a phone contract, except that two years is more like 6 or 7 (last gen was an anomaly). So EXACTLY half way through this generation (3-3.5 years) we now get an updated device, that can do some more things and do some things better.

So it is actually very similar to the phone contract model. All we need now is for Sony/MS to offer nice low interest payment plans like Samsung did for me to allow me to buy my S7 upfront. If they do that then I'm there day one, if not then PSVR takes precedence for me and I upgrade later on when it suits me best. But I'm ready for this.

People should really stop comparing this to phones. People forget that traditional contracts subsidize the phone and it normally costs the end user a lot less than the retail price. Nowadays they got contract free phone lines where you pay for your phone but you save a decent chunk on your plan and you can opt to pay for the phone interest free, over time, and added to your bill.

Another fact quickly forgotten is that very many people get their phone through their work at no cost to them. Even if they paid for it, a phone is a necessity and it is with us a lot longer throughout our day than a gaming system. You can do a lot more with it and it's always backwards compatible for years and forward compatible for years. People buy a console for a few games with the expectation of getting titles in the future.

 

[Negotiator]

For those that think that ps4 games will be gimped, remember there is still the Xbox One out there that has a huge install base and will still need games made for it, which the ps4 will still be able to run slightly better. Waaaaaaay to much overreaction in here.

^ This.

XB1 will still be the lowest common denominator this gen... not the PS4.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Quake 2 on Xbox 360 ran at 1080p 60fps locked. It was released 10 years ago.

And it looked like something running 1080p/60 on the 360, so...

 

[Josh5890]

And with how many bills and other things that come in to play there's less and less money.
Phone, house, utilities, car, internet/TV, food
If the average Joe made $20+ and hour and had full time this would be fine but truth is part time minimum wage is like the thing these days or jobs the deserve $20+ an hour only get like $14.50 these days

Video gaming is an expensive hobby. This is nothing new.

 

[chickenliqu0r]

They stated that the GPU is twice as powerful as standard PS4 and much faster. They did not say exactly how fast but that is was running at a higher clock speed while being much smaller than the original.

Welcome to the pay-to-win wars, console owners.

 

[Hawk269]

Good for you. I for one being as old as I am, have seen companies go down this road big or small, and if not tempered correctly, can lead to disastrous results. Notice how I talk not in the now but more down the road pretense.

And just because you accept it doesn't mean the masses that are not tech heads or on neogaf will. Remember the DRM debacle? People were not ready for it. I don't think people are ready for this on a mass scale that's my whole point. And if people reject this or if after reveal and the die hard people buy these things and time goes on, will the people on the fence buy PS5 or whatever refresh follows?

I care about the future not the now. Sega of Japan cared to much about the now too much that it killed them as a console company. And it seems that's possibly where Sony specifically is heading.

Yeah, I don't agree with what you are saying as well. I am old as well, been gaming since the 2600 days. What Sega did is completely different than what Sony is planning. The whole Sega CD then adding on top of that the 32x was just a mess. This is not the same thing. This is a new system that plays PS4 games and games that take advantage of the PS4K will also be available on the PS4 albeit without all the bells and whistles.

10 Years ago I would agree with your 100% on people not being ready, but in this day and age where technology is more and more of peoples every day life, it is an easy sell to a casual consumer. Tell how hard is something like this to understand:

Consumer: Hi, I am looking for a PlayStation 4.

Employee: Great. my name is Hawk and let me show you what we have. We currently are selling two versions of the PS4. One is the standard version with a 500gb hard drive and plays blu ray movies and all PS4 games and it sells for $299.99. We also have the PS4K system. This one plays Blu Ray but also the new 4k Blu Rays that are now available. The system also has a 2 TB Hard Drive and plays all PS4 games as well, but because of a better Graphics Chip, games on the PS4K look better because it has a better GPU and CPU and it sells for $399.99.

Consumer: But which one would be good for my Son?

Employee: That depends if you want the high end version that does 4k blu ray and the games look better or you want the lower end system that still plays all the great PS4 games, but saves you $100.00. The PS4K does have the 4k Blu Ray player, so if you don't see yourself buying a 4k set that is one feature that you would not use. But even if you don't have a 4k TV, the games would run better because of the better specs in the system. It comes down to which one you think fits best for your son and if it s for gaming only and the way the current PS4 games looks good, then perhaps the PS4 would be the best choice. But if you want the higher end graphics, the PS4K would be a great choice as well.

Consumer: Is the standard PS4 being discontinued?

Employee: No, Sony just wanted to make a higher end system like they do with Tablets or a higher end phones to offer consumers a choice in what they wanted. With 4k TV's becoming more popular they wanted to have a PS4 that also supported 4k TV's with it's 4k Blu Ray Drive. They both play the same games, but on the PS4K the games look better, but the PS4 is still a great machine and Sony is still producing the same games for both machines. Let me show you this game, God of War 4. On the PS4k the game runs at a higher frame rate and the game looks better because of the higher specs of the PS4K, but it still is a great game on the PS4 and has all the same levels, it just does not look as good as it does on the PS4k.

10 years ago a lot of casual consumers would have no clue about hard drive sizes or what a GPU is etc. It is just a different market now and consumers are a bit more informed than they were back in the day.

 

[Josh5890]

Having a think. People buy a phone on contract, usually a 2 year contract these days. In that time the next iteration of their phone is released a year later, and in the android sphere many more powerful devices are released. That's half way through your contract and the next step up is there. iPhone 6S, the S7 instead of S6, etc.

Imagine buying a console like a phone contract, except that two years is more like 6 or 7 (last gen was an anomaly). So EXACTLY half way through this generation (3-3.5 years) we now get an updated device, that can do some more things and do some things better.

So it is actually very similar to the phone contract model. All we need now is for Sony/MS to offer nice low interest payment plans like Samsung did for me to allow me to buy my S7 upfront. If they do that then I'm there day one, if not then PSVR takes precedence for me and I upgrade later on when it suits me best. But I'm ready for this.

I have a tracfone. I have no interest in contracts if I can help it.

 

[small44]

Why are people constantly bringing up Sega in this thread? They've never done anything like this, and don't say the 32X either. It's apples and oranges compared to this.

This is goign to be more like the N64 RAM upgrade. It won't break the current model, nor did it break the N64 back then.

Sony experienced something like that in the past with the PSX and you know what it flopped hardly.

 

[Moneal]

Sony experienced something like that in the past with the PSX and you know what it flopped hardly.

Back before consumer electronics became an iterative upgrade market.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

As far as I'm concerned, May 10 will mark the day that the first good ps4 exclusive game is released. The only other good games are remasters/ports. TLOU remaster, Brothers a tale of two sons, Soma, LIS, GTA V and that's pretty much it. The rest of the games are rather average. I have like at least 50 games in my ps4 library and most of them are trash. I spent an hour with them and then deleted them from my hard drive. There are a few decent games like Wolfenstein, etc but honestly this gen hasn't really gotten started. Sony's studios have been really slow to get going and now that they are just about to start churning out the good stuff, there are rumors of new hardware? That's just trash.

Wrong, again I didn't say it had no games. I said it had no good games, particularly exclusives. I mentioned that it had decent games but I guess reading comprehension is not really your thing?

That's basically the equivalent of saying it has no games. It's your fucking opinion, don't preach it like it's gospel.

There are plenty of Playstation owners who do not share your sentiments here on gaf, as well there are some who do.

SpecialOne, theres a difference between saying you dont care for a systems library and outright shitting on it.
I dont care for much in the libraries of the xbox one and wii u but I dont go around spouting off that they have no good games - because I know just because a game doesnt appeal to me personally that doesnt mean that others dont like it.
Step outside yourself.