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IndieGamerChick: NX more powerful than PS4/XB1, easy to develop for [rumor]

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
How does the Reddit's verification process work? Is it the same as here on GAF/better/worse?

Minus Bishoptl dropping his classic "Check your PMs", meaning shit is about to go down

EDIT: Oh wow, dizzyzane is posting there too, lol. Do you remember dizzyzane, anyone? He even posted a link to GAF XD
 

Regiruler

Member
If you're alluding that it might be more difficult to port games from the other platforms to NX due to different architecture, then we have to refer you to the countless comments by TechGAF that have stipulated how it is not of a big problem softwarewise anymore. Now if it's the hardware power that makes you concerned, the very same folks have also presented how efficient the most likely candidate (ARM) in fact is. The only thing, that might be harmful, is exactly the 'Nintendo is putting mobile hardware in their home console, lol!' narrative
If they're not going with x86 why bother changing from PowerPC?
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
If they're not going with x86 why bother changing from PowerPC?
To have a similar architecture with the handheld, thus realizing Iwata's goal of making their consoles & handhelds "like brothers", similar to the iPhone-iPad relationship. ARM is still a modern architecture that's supported heavily.
 

WiiU0706

Member
So far he has basically told us nothing, all i want to know is the hardware Arm or x86 and some potential third party ports and how easy is the portability
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
How does the Reddit's verification process work? Is it the same as here on GAF/better/worse?

Minus Bishoptl dropping his classic "Check your PMs", meaning shit is about to go down

EDIT: Oh wow, dizzyzane is posting there too, lol. Do you remember dizzyzane, anyone? He even posted a link to GAF XD


It is far worst.
 

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JayBabay

Member
The real question is how it will compare to the mid cycle console refreshes by Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo doesn't want to get stuck in third again because the competition released more powerful hardware during the same period as it launches.
 
The real question is how it will compare to the mid cycle console refreshes by Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo doesn't want to get stuck in third again because the competition released more powerful hardware during the same period as it launches.

If it's near ps4, they won't get left behind at all. After all, developers aren't going suddenly drop the 40 million consoles already out there by the time the updated ones launch.

There was no simply downscaling to run on Wii which meant It required building a different game. It's incredibly unlikely that happens again.
 
If it's near ps4, they won't get left behind at all. After all, developers aren't going suddenly drop the 40 million consoles already out there by the time the updated ones launch.

There was no simply downscaling to run on Wii which meant It required building a different game. It's incredibly unlikely that happens again.

This seems like a pre WiiU post.
 
This seems like a pre WiiU post.

I'm not saying the games will come if the NX is comparable power wise. Just that they actually have CHANCE to come, unlike on the wii.

Hell, the Wii u barely got any ports outside of a few launch games and power wasn't the issue there. There are a bunch of reasons for that but not my point.

I'm more talking about how the Wii, despite being crazy successful, rarely got ports of ps360 games, outside of the call of dutys (because Activision actually had a dedicated Wii port studio in vicarious visions). The teams that made the bioshocks, tomb raiders, and assassins creeds couldn't be asked to make a Wii version because it would literally require building a separate game rather than a true port because of the power discrepancy. That is alot of man power for a potential port that may not be able to match the vision and execution of their game. If the NX matches current gen, at the very least, that won't be a hurdle.

Support will come down to market viability rather straight up resource allocation.
 

Pokemaniac

Member
If they're not going with x86 why bother changing from PowerPC?

Because x86 isn't some sliver bullet that makes all your porting problems disappear. Most porting work in this day any age has more to do with the OS and standard libraries. The actual architecture differences are, 9 times out of ten, dealt with by the compiler.

Also everything that matters supports ARM already, anyway, thanks to mobile.

Also PowerPC is DEAD in the consumer space. All current development on POWER is focused on supercomputers/mainframes, which have very different needs than console.


Everybody really should have seen that coming.
 

Sakujou

Banned
not true at all. there is no one out there, who could give us any related info.
thats why the nintendo systems after the nintendo playstation(the last real reveal/leak without any approval before any release)

failed.

/joke
 

Pokemaniac

Member
How so? Didn't the show advertise new Sun/Moon footage?

There was a promo shot that came out before the show which showed them just watching the Direct trailer again.

While Pokemon Sunday (I'm not bothering to learn its current name) has premiered footage before, that shot really should have tipped everyone off that that wasn't happening this time.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
There was a promo shot that came out before the show which showed them just watching the Direct trailer again.

While Pokemon Sunday (I'm not bothering to learn its current name) has premiered footage before, that shot really should have tipped everyone off that that wasn't happening this time.
Oh, thanks for clarifying.
 

Terrell

Member
Haven't technology products rather become cheaper than more expensive over the past few decades? Unless you expect hyperinflation to occur soon, your statement seems rather unlikely.

Even then, another Nintendo console launching at 300 Euros would show that Nintendo has not learnt anything. Why pay more for less? They aren't Apple.

Not at the same rate as inflation or the reduction in spending power, no. It's been a well-documented issue that even if you gave someone the equivalent of $1 in the 80s, they still have less buying power across nearly all industries than they did back then.

You're ignoring the point I'm trying to make. Final Fantasy XV is a technical mess, and Square Enix can barely seem to get the thing running on PS4/Xbox One at 1080p and above 25fps. Aside from PC, I don't see them releasing it on any other systems due to that alone.

So an entirely assumptive reasoning then.

The Nintendo Difference isn't a selling point to the broader audience anymore. Pricing NX at parity with PS4 and Xbox One is suicide. It'll be Wii U 2.0. This thing needs to be sub £299/$299 otherwise they don't stand a chance of selling it to anyone except their most die hard fans. I see what AzaK is saying. Need to release something cheap and off the shelf that can accommodate Unreal Engine and curren generation games at a reasonable performance level.

I wasn't making the reasoning of its viability at a price point over $250, only the idea that Nintendo will demand that to happen.

And this poster sums up the flaw in yours and Shiggy's reasoning quite well...

The GameCube was cheap (getting to $99 only 2 years into its cycle) and no one bought that thing either. People won't buy the NX because it is cheap. They will buy it if they think it has good value. The problem is they will get killed by the media if it underpowered again, and the perceived value will be low again.

So if they are going to go cheap, they better have a killer feature and appealing software like the Wiimote and Wii Sports. I'm skeptical they'll ever make a gimmick as appealing as that ever again for consoles.

Great post. Perceived value on dollar will have more to do with NX's successes or failures than what the actual price point is. As has always been the case. And that perceived value is doomed to be exceptionally low if it targets something below what is expected from 3rd-parties and from consumers, which anything below PS4 spec is doomed to be.

I'm not sure it matters how powerful it's hardware is this late into the generation. People have already aligned themselves how they will be aligned for the rest of the generation and so have developers, by and large. While I understand the urgency behind NX, I hope this doesn't mean they won't launch their next console when the PS5 and Xbox Two launch. The rhythm is very off with this system.

The iterative model that Nintendo seems more committed to than Microsoft is gives them the flexibility to do that, if need be.

Though there's quite a number of consumers who, by virtue of having NOT bought a console yet, have not "aligned themselves" with anything, and 3rd-parties aren't in a position to draw lines in the sand if there are consumers they can serve on other hardware that will whittle away at their games' explosively-large production costs.
 

Toparaman

Banned
What's funny is that the PS4.5 and Xbox 1.5 might actually play into Nintendo's favor. Before, the NX would be releasing at a time when practically nobody would be interested in purchasing a new console this early. But now with all of the Big 3 offering (and presumably marketing) new consoles early, curious consumers are going to be comparing their options. And if NX has full third party support, is priced competitively, and has Nintendo's first party staples, that's one hell of an offer.
 
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