dreampeppers99
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I wonder why...
He said one developer???
That is MOST??
Can anyone else confirm this?
I'll make a thread for this right now if so.
I wonder why...
Exactly what I expeced. Just to stir up bullshit. As you can see, it worked. There are several (online) media outlets with "Developers don't like the PS4" articles.
Hilarious!
Am I missing something? I thought his initial tweet was obvious that he only spoke to one person. He had a source that told him most developers don't like this. He trusted that source based on unknown personal reasons.
It always seemed clear to me that it was his source who had been discussing this with other devs, not Colin directly.
So, what part of this am I missing? Did something new get clarified or are people going out of their way looking for a reason to demonize someone again?
^ Not sarcasm. Legit question.
How else would the source know what those developers think?"Most developers the source has spoken with do not like ps4k" is very, very different than "source says most developers don't like ps4k".
"Most developers the source has spoken with do not like ps4k"
How else would the source know what those developers think?
Just messaged Chobel to have him update the OP. If he doesn't I'll make a new thread.
Wow, some of you really don't like Colin, do you?
And what's his agenda here? To express his disdain for the very idea behind the NEO?I like accuracy.
Not some emotionally driven bullshit to attempt to distort and spread misinformation because of his fucking agenda.
And what's his agenda here? To express his disdain for the very idea behind the NEO?
I don't see the lie here.Don't try to change the subject.
You are failing to see the issue with lying about information in his tweet?
Don't try to change the subject.
You are failing to see the issue with lying about information in his tweet?
I don't see the lie here.
I like accuracy.
Not some emotionally driven bullshit to attempt to distort and spread misinformation because of his fucking agenda.
I like accuracy.
Not some emotionally driven bullshit to attempt to distort and spread misinformation because of his fucking agenda.
Ha, talking about a pretty good self-description.Oh your post history says it all. Nevermind, you aren't worth discussing this with.
What if he was lying in the podcast?
Or does that not support your agenda
Because there is nothing wrong here.What's the problem? He talked to one source, source talked to x devs, i don't see anything wrong?
Ha, talking about a pretty good self-description.
You don't know me or my views on PS4K. I'm not actually entirely for it either.
I take a huge issue with journalists not committing to their responsibility to inform.
What's the problem? He talked to one source, source talked to x devs, i don't see anything wrong?
Ha, talking about a pretty good self-description.
Ok - but it seems pretty simple to me: he has 1 source, that source spoke to multiple developers who are not happy. Ergo there is no "lie".
And yet for someone lamenting about "emotionally driven bullshit" you seem pretty overzealous in your attempts to jump to PS4Ks defence, is all.
"Journalist"You don't know me or my views on PS4K. I'm not actually entirely for it either.
I take a huge issue with journalists not committing to their responsibility to inform.
Yep. Colin and Greg have said over and over again that they aren't journalists, not anymore. They are pundits."Journalist"
There's your problem.
Yep. Colin and Greg have said over and over again that they aren't journalists, not anymore. They are pundits.
Pundit has a negative connotation thanks to Fox News, but it is simply someone who has expert knowledge on a particular field who offers their opinion and commentary on that field to the mass media.Then we need to stop giving 50 pages of attention to what a pundit is saying.
Bad decisions according to...What do you think his agenda is? He's one of the larger pro-Sony members of the video game press and has been for years.
If anything, I think it's delightful that he holds Sony's feet to the fire and criticizes them when they make bad decisions rather than try and rationalize everything and pretend that Sony is infallible.
Pundit has a negative connotation thanks to Fox News, but it is simply someone who has expert knowledge on a particular field who offers their opinion and commentary on that field to the mass media.
Again, I am not defending this shit.
It's weird, I don't like it. It's right in the middle of the console gen, PSVR is supposed to come out and by this PS4K coming out it completely contradicts what Andrew House said at the price reveal at GDC. Stating that the advantage of PSVR is that it is on one piece of hardware. There is a lot that I think is wrong with it and It's a bad decision at the this point imo.
This is besides the point. Colin is obfuscating the truth.
He really isn't.
"Source says most devs not happy" is what he said.
It's common sense that he means "most devs" who the source has spoken to. How else would he know?
Oh ffs.
He really isn't.
"Source says most devs not happy" is what he said.
It's common sense that he means "most devs" who the source has spoken to. How else would he know?
Oh ffs.
Like I said: "Emotionally driven" is not something you should be lamenting in somebody else.
Like I said: "Emotionally driven" is not something you should be lamenting in somebody else.
And the true colors are exposed.Well he's an expert in being a complete idiot then.
If you are a child or have an agenda to discredit him and protect Sony's virtue maybe.No.
I'm saying ffs because the tweet is intentionally worded that way to hide the truth of it.
Read the replies in this thread. Everyone assumes it is indeed "Most developers".
Not "Most developers spoken to".
No.
I'm saying ffs because the tweet is intentionally worded that way to hide the truth of it.
Read the replies in this thread. Everyone assumes it is indeed "Most developers".
Not "Most developers spoken to".
No.
I'm saying ffs because the tweet is intentionally worded that way to hide the truth of it.
Read the replies in this thread. Everyone assumes it is indeed "Most developers".
Not "Most developers spoken to".
Source: "Hey I spoke to some devs about PS4K recently"
Me: "Oh?"
Source: "Yeah most aren't happy with it"
Me: "Huh." *writes tweet saying "Source says most devs not happy with PS4K"*
Ok let's hypothesize that I live on the planet Movalpolos for second and I have a conversation thus:
In the above scenario, am I lying and/or obfuscating the truth?
You said "some". That is already giving more info than Colin did.
If you go on to write that tweet without adding in that "some" then yes, you are obfuscating the truth.
You said "some". That is already giving more info than Colin did.
If you go on to write that tweet without adding in that "some" then yes, you are obfuscating the truth.
Fine, re-read it and ignore "some" then (these aren't the exact words of their conversation - I made them up /spoiler)
My point is exactly the same.
At best it leaves it open to interpretation. I'll agree with that.