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Hideki Kamiya annoyed on twitter, tells fanboy to use his own brain

JordanKZ

Member
People are being like they normally are online, and everything is hyperbole. SF0 seems to divide opinions, but it at least seems fairly decent.

Still, people attempting to bait Kamiya is hilarious.
 

Kouriozan

Member
The Star Fox hate is real, I won't be surprised if this IP will get another huge pause.
ShockingAlberto was right when he said Nintendo panicked and didn't know what to do with it, so they sent the game in a chaotic state to Platinum.
 

diaspora

Member
The Star Fox hate is real, I won't be surprised if this IP will get another huge pause.
ShockingAlberto was right when he said Nintendo panicked and didn't know what to do with it, so they sent the game in a chaotic state to Platinum.
IIRC this is why they approached Criterion to do F-Zero. They didn't know what to do with it.
 

mdubs

Banned
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Died at the use Hashimoto amiibo instead part
 
The Star Fox hate is real, I won't be surprised if this IP will get another huge pause.

My fear is, the IP will get shelved because Nintendo's form of 'innovation' did not gel well with an on-rails shooter. As long as their IP falls somewhere in line with what they can use it for in terms of their gimmicks they will use it. There is a reason we have not seen a Metroid game in a while. We will continue to wait for it sadly.

This whole situation is rather heart breaking. As a big fan of Star Fox. I feel as if I don't drop the money, I'm not voting to keep one of my favorite IPs in the big leagues. If I do drop the money I am supporting Nintendo's Wii U Gamepad.
 

Regiruler

Member
My fear is, the IP will get shelved because Nintendo's form of 'innovation' did not gel well with an on-rails shooter. As long as their IP falls somewhere in line with what they can use it for in terms of their gimmicks they will use it. There is a reason we have not seen a Metroid game in a while. We will continue to wait for it sadly.

This whole situation is rather heart breaking. As a big fan of Star Fox. I feel as if I don't drop the money, I'm not voting to keep one of my favorite IPs in the big leagues. If I do drop the money I am supporting Nintendo's Wii U Gamepad.
Zero is fantastic though.

And your acting like supporting the gamepad is some type of cardinal sin.
 

phanphare

Banned
My fear is, the IP will get shelved because Nintendo's form of 'innovation' did not gel well with an on-rails shooter. As long as their IP falls somewhere in line with what they can use it for in terms of their gimmicks they will use it. There is a reason we have not seen a Metroid game in a while. We will continue to wait for it sadly.

This whole situation is rather heart breaking. As a big fan of Star Fox. I feel as if I don't drop the money, I'm not voting to keep one of my favorite IPs in the big leagues. If I do drop the money I am supporting Nintendo's Wii U Gamepad.

by most accounts the innovation in SF0 allowed for a better gameplay experience than previous games in the series
 

DedValve

Banned
I just hope that the reactions to it don't cause Platinum to think twice about working with Nintendo in the future or vice-versa.

Nintendo gave them W101 and Bayonetta 2. I think Platinum would jump at the chance to work with them again.

I'm 3d printing that amiibo.
 
Kamiya was right about what? That Inafune was a businessman? That tweet wasn't a condemnation of the man.

God, this whole thing is dumb. They worked at the same company for years. There's no bad blood between them but people are inventing this narrative.
 

Cheerilee

Member
Kamiya was right about what? That Inafune was a businessman? That tweet wasn't a condemnation of the man.

God, this whole thing is dumb. They worked at the same company for years. There's no bad blood between them but people are inventing this narrative.

I think people are using it somewhat comically, because it's so blunt, and on the face of it it's just mic-drop devastating.

Kamiya clarified that he was describing Inafune, not insulting him, and said that he respects Inafune as a businessman. But I think there is some bad blood between them. Just a little smoke (but where there's smoke, there's fire). Not all co-workers always get along.

I remember reading once (although nobody else seems to remember it, and I can't find any record of it) that Inafune took a mild shot at Shinji Mikami when he was having his Resident Evil 4 troubles, saying that Mikami brought it upon himself by making selfish artistic decisions instead of good business decisions. Hideki Kamiya was among those who choked under Capcom's business decisions, and was forced to retreat to Clover Studios, and when even that wasn't enough, he was forced to quit Capcom and help form Platinum.

Inafune was a better businessman than these other artists, but eventually even he had to quit Capcom. And so when Kamiya was asked what he thought of Inafune's games, he said that Inafune is a businessman, not a creator. That's what he thinks of Inafune's games. That Inafune is a businessman. There's maybe two ways to take that, either that Inafune's games are corporate product, not art, or "What games? Inafune doesn't make games."

And when interviewed about it, Inafune said that he doesn't let insults get to him, which means that at least Inafune took it as an insult. And Inafune said that he's not ashamed to be a businessman, because a good creator needs to be both creator and businessman to get anywhere in this business. Which could be taken as a subtle shot at Kamiya and Clover. And Kamiya didn't say Inafune was both a creator and a businessman, he said he was a businessman, not a creator. When Kamiya sees Inafune, he doesn't see any artist, he just sees a suit and tie.

But this division or rivalry or whatever doesn't mean that Kamiya and Inafune hate each other or that they can't get along or anything like that. Someone asked Kamiya early on what he thought of Mighty no 9, and Kamiya said it was an insult to Capcom, because it was a blatant copy of Megaman. Someone suggested that Bayonetta was a blatant copy of Devil May Cry, and Kamiya responded with a smiley face. Means that Kamiya's willing to make headlines by saying harsh things about Inafune, but without directly saying it, Bayonetta was Kamiya's "Fuck you" to Capcom, and what he thinks (or thought) of Mighty no 9 is that it's Inafune's "Fuck you" to Capcom, and that's something they both have in common.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
I think people are using it somewhat comically, because it's so blunt, and on the face of it it's just mic-drop devastating.
Fairly sure people actually believe Kamiya was insulting Inafune. Maybe not everyone, but most. As chaobreaker said, this is really really dumb.
 

L Thammy

Member
Am I wrong, or are all those tweets just correcting people who wrote Purachina Geemusu instead of Purachina Geemuzu?

EDIT: Damn it, didn't see the explanation above. This is what I get for having ten billion windows open.
 

Riposte

Member
Scalebound |OT| 「プラチナゲームズ」ですね…
 
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