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Final EVO 2016 Entrants numbers and Scheduled finals lineup
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Salty Hippo
Member
Nice bump for KI but continuing to be the game with the least entrants is depressing and undeserved.
StriKeVillain
Banned
So with all these numbers out , who will actually be IN vegas next week ? From here anyway. I'm going solo this year (what better place to go 0-2 in SFV than EVO?) and have to monorail it up the street because of how late I booked
A bunch of us from FGHQ will be there. Looks for us in the gaming community thread.
Gunslinger
Member
That MKX drop damn.
sixteen-bit
Member
NRS stans biding time for Injustice 2
Kayo Police
Member
So whats the protocol when Smash runs late again?
Unlike Smash, SFV will be televised, so they'll probably cut the Smash stream and force a switch?
Unlike Smash, SFV will be televised, so they'll probably cut the Smash stream and force a switch?
Rice-Eater
Member
Their is no way Melee takes over 4 hours when everything besides WF, LF, and GF is 2/3. The only way Melee runs late is if all the top 8 collude to make every game time out(or use up almost all the time) and go down to the final game of the set. I would like to believe that our Smash brethren's wouldn't want that even if they could make it happen....right?
Tallshortman
Member
Come hell or high water I would imagine Mr. Wizard will make sure SFV starts on time due to the ESPN broadcast. I doubt he would want anything to jeopardize future coverage.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Pretty happy with the stream schedule.
Couldn't give a fuck about Melee or SFV. Can go to sleep once Xrd finishes.
Couldn't give a fuck about Melee or SFV. Can go to sleep once Xrd finishes.
DryEyeRelief
Member
It's a buffer for all four games, not just smash.
toddhunter
Member
Fighting games almost always run late. So they are just allocating extra time to smash to cater for it.
Rice-Eater
Member
I know, I know. I fully expect Smash to start later then 3pm and that the long slot it has isn't meant only for it.
I just wanted to comment on the actual time slot it was given.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Because people hate on Marvel just because, and Nintendo people support Smash no matter what.
It's amazing people say Marvel lost popularity because it's gone years without an update , but have no problem with a GameCube game being 2nd to last.
DryEyeRelief
Member
This is the first year the games are ordered in terms of entrants and Marvel isn't getting preferential treatment.
tbh, as the sixth popular game at evo, it shouldn't even be on sunday.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Honestly I'm not bothered what day it comes on. This is the first year I don't have to suffer through a late running smash game beforehand and that is good enough for me.
If Marvel didn't run on Sunday, then I probably wouldn't watch Sunday at all. Anything you could replace it with. (Smash 4, KI) are not games I would be remotely interested in.
Immortal Technique
Member
For what it's worth, Daigo's donation did not go to Skisonic. Skisonic won the scholarship the year previous. It was just a flawed Eventhubs headline that associated the two of them.
Smooth Operator
Member
What did you expect from a game only available on One and Win10 (Via the Windows Store) ?
cj_iwakura
Member
I think it's kind of hilarious how BlazBlue's release schedule always seems designed to screw it out of an Evo slot.
Similar to how ASW's release schedule in general screws their games out of having an active playerbase a year after release.
DryEyeRelief
Member
We weren't talking about your preferences.
cj_iwakura
Member
That too. Admittedly, the fans' capricious nature doesn't help. Even if BB was somehow there, it'd get creamed by Revelator.
Ok, then don't watch sunday if they replace Marvel... We don't care.
Tekken top 8 got moved to Sat.
Salty Hippo
Member
At least more than a game that is not available anywhere but arcades.
But the thing is that we kinda already have a Smash game on Sunday. While Mr. Wizard did say it's nothing hard-fast, diversity is something to consider when picking the Sunday games. And at least as of January (when they decided), Melee was clearly the better spectator's game of the Smash games & still is. That's not to say that Smash 4 isn't getting better, but you get the idea.
durrrrrrrrrr
Member
Melee second last works out pretty well, the Smash crowd should have the patience to stay for one fgc game while people have a 4 hour block to get dinner before SF5.
I don't think using diversity as the reason for keeping Smash 4 on Saturday is fair though. Smash 4 and Melee are not only the second and third most popular games at EVO this year (and last iirc), but are very different games anyway with relatively little player overlap.
Smash 4 obviously has much better graphics but also a very different art style that's brighter and more cartoony. Common stages like Final Destination and Battlefield look completely different as well. In fact I think the only stage that looks and functions the same between both games is Dreamland, which is a legacy N64 stage. The roster is also very different, just look at CEO's Top 8 character spread for both games - the only characters that are in both are Fox and Shiek, both of whom function very differently between the two games anyway.
I just don't think it's fair that one Smash game has to be relegated to a bad time slot when they're both pulling their own weight independently as two of the most popular games at the event by far and aren't even similar enough to look redundant to a spectator IMO.
To us, those who know better about the finer details of both Smash games, sure. But to the average spectator who tunes in on Twitch to see what's going on, they'll just see two Smash games, hence my point about diversity. And even then, the Sunday line-up seems pretty locked-down in terms of long-term health. MKX will likely get swapped out for Injustice 2, GGXrd has stayed consistent for a while, & Tekken 7 may likely take UMvC3's place on the Sunday line-up if Mahvel's viewership this year doesn't hold up. That said, I do hope that Smash 4 gets a prime-time slot on Saturday, it deserves that much.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
Windows 10 Store is trash that's why.
At this point, only MvC4 can replace UMvC3. The numbers for UMvC3 seem to be leveling out to a consistent range at EVO. So as long as Mahvel can maintain the viewership, it'll likely be a mainstay at EVO until we get MvC4 (whenever that happens, if at all). That said, it's still amazing how UMvC3 outlived USFIV, MK9, & likely MKX after this year (with Injustice 2 incoming).
While yes, Melee has fewer entrants than Smash 4, it's not behind Smash 4 by that much.
Marvel 4 2019 I believe..no I know the gods will make it happen.
Rice-Eater
Member
I think that if they gave Smash 4 a spot on Sunday, it would probably be the first game in the morning. Or no later than the 2nd game. One thing FGC TO's have made pretty clear is that they won't do both Smash games back to back. If they did that would mean 6-7 consecutive hours of nothing but Smash.
Would Smash 4 fans be fine with a 8 or 10:30AM top 8?
Would Smash 4 fans be fine with a 8 or 10:30AM top 8?
It's a lot more likely now than it was a few months ago.
I mean, Marvel seems to be down for it. The problem is on Capcom's end, not just from a financial standpoint, but also from the standpoint of if they're willing to go along with Marvel's current wishes for their side of the roster to do it (which may piss off the FGC). Also, wouldn't Capcom USA be the ones doing the negotiations with Marvel Entertainment, since it's that side of Capcom that seems to be covering the fighting game side of things for the company (aside from development, of course)?
But if it is happening & coming out in 2019, it would make for a super-hype EVO 2017 announcement.
DryEyeRelief
Member
Is diversity why the 3D game isn't on Sunday?
racketpunch
Member
Any person that really thought Marvel would be a dead game isn't very smart.