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ReCore uses "sandwich time" tech once you die (edit: or not?)

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Guys, this is from the studio tasked with porting UE4 to the Wii U. Think about that.
Did they nail it? Porting UE4 to WiiU that is? Not in the loop on this, sorry.
Gut reaction says hell no from your post but I might be reading into it wrong.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
It's a Unity game, right? They're always awful on consoles.
Pretty sure it's UE4

Did they nail it? Porting UE4 to WiiU that is? Not in the loop on this, sorry.
Gut reaction says hell no from your post but I might be reading into it wrong.
We don't know yet. Basically, it seems like a very very difficult task and I have a hard time believing they'll achieve good performance. We shall see but Recore's issues certainly cast additional doubt.
 

Tripon

Member
Okay, this statement is pretty much bullshit. The context is absolutely one of the things that matter most in most any situation. The fact that you have this mindset shows just how people eat up these shit topics that don't involve much discussion. I mean, this threads first post is only 2 words "pretty neat". It's nice to have a good joke thread in awhile but this thread is pretty much "hey look at this thing we can shit on!".

2 min is unacceptable for load times and we should be upset if this is the standard. But that tweet and this thread provides no context that it is.

Okay, you tell me when 2 minutes is okay given the context.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
This must be an error of some kind, I have no doubt this will get patched.

It's interesting how some people are randomly rushing in with "BUT BLOODBORNE" comments, though.
 

Adam Prime

hates soccer, is Mexican
I dont' believe that's real. I mean, I know the video is real... but it can't be like that on release. Nobody would release something in that state.
 

Shanlei91

Sonic handles my blue balls
You guys are funny. Unpatched Bloodborne's load times were 30-40s, iirc. ReCore is literally 4x worse.

But you'll die 10x more often in Bloodborne! Ho ho ho

I'm just gonna rent it and play it on easy. Long loading times is my biggest gaming pet peeve.
 

Justinh

Member
Gaawwwwlllll
I was getting pretty excited about this game, too. I really dislike long as fuck loading times. Hopefully this won't be the situation for everybody.

I don't think I've ever seen a 2+ minute loading screen.
I'm almost positive I had longer load times in Witcher 3: Blood and Wine when spoilers
I had to fight Detlaff at the end. I died like 2 or three times and it pissed me off so God-damned much because there was the long as fuck load, then a couple like... 5 second cutscenes introducing the battle or whatever. I couldn't stop though, because I stayed up to finally finish it and I didn't want to go to sleep yet.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Once you're in the game, sure. But the startup takes forever.

It has improved quite a bit after the last couple of updates, though. It's still long, but nowhere near "the background song is almost finished" long anymore.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
But you'll die 10x more often in Bloodborne! Ho ho ho

I'm just gonna rent it and play it on easy. Long loading times is my biggest gaming pet peeve.
But what if ReCore is the next Bloodborne in terms of dying? oh ho ho ho
I kid I kid. This game looks like a breeze.
 
If the thread is misrepresentating the game by showing a statistical outlier I can see why people would be upset. If loading screens like these are normal, then it's a legitimate issue with the game. Something we won't know until more people get to spend time with the game.

I highly doubt I'll see similar loading times on my XB1 because I'll have the game installed on my external SSD. Karak is reporting much shorter loads on his 7200 RPM external drive.

Quoting for visibility:

I can't imagine spending the money for a SSD and running it external to my computer, never mind my Xbox.

An 7200rpm is a bit more common, but that isn't typical Xbox one owner experience, anymore that the typical ps4 owner is rocking a 2tb hybrid HDD.
 

Shanlei91

Sonic handles my blue balls
What about a game so difficult it won't load until the next day when you die.

NbjMFC4.jpg
 

Buburibon

Member
It shouldn't be too bad on PC. That said, I probably won't be buying it anyway because Unity doesn't typically allow for downsampling without modifying the desktop resolution. I had no idea they were using Unity before skimming through this thread today. That's bad news IMO.
 

Rappy

Member
So the stock HDD is faulty or underperforming?
Are you not getting the point of my argument? His could be! That could be the context and that's why context matters! Theres also other contexts that could go either direction, positive or negative (like if he was actually playing on the fastest SSD on the market and still getting these load times). Like I said if it is standard then it should be called out on.
 

Zedox

Member
From watching the stream of Recore I don't see that 2 minutes...but I do see the 30-40 seconds...granted dying doesn't happen often (regenerative health).
 

Tripon

Member
Are you not getting the point of my argument? His could be! That could be the context and that's why context matters! Theres also other contexts that could go either direction, positive or negative (like if he was actually playing on the fastest SSD on the market and still getting these load times). Like I said if it is standard then it should be called out on.

But you don't know that. You can't make assumptions that you have no idea what the conditions are. If his HD really was faulty or in danger of failing, he would have a lot more problems than just loading times.

The fact that you went to the extreme end case to justify 'the context' shows you're reaching badly to defend against footage that puts the game in a bad light.

It's not your job to defend this game. You just have to decide if you want to buy and enjoy this game.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Are you not getting the point of my argument? His could be! That could be the context and that's why context matters! Theres also other contexts that could go either direction, positive or negative (like if he was actually playing on the fastest SSD on the market and still getting these load times). Like I said if it is standard then it should be called out on.
I see where you're coming from. This would also make sense. We'll know for sure soon enough once most people get their hands on the game and report on load times.
 

Menitta

Member
From watching the stream of Recore I don't see that 2 minutes...but I do see the 30-40 seconds...granted dying doesn't happen often (regenerative health).

He also said the same happens with area transitions. That's why I think this issue is unique to this user. Every other gameplay video and footage shown didn't have this issue.
 
Is it so hard to go to youtube and search some gameplay?
Those statements about 2 min loading times are false.

Exactly my dude. This is just a hater looking to craft some usual internet outrage.

If you look at the bottom closely, it looks like he looped it. Surprised nobody else saw it.
 

Zedox

Member
He also said the same happens with area transitions. That's why I think this issue is unique to this user. Every other gameplay video and footage shown didn't have this issue.

Yea, the area transitions (aka fast travel) has the same 30-40 seconds. I'm not gonna be kneejerk and cancel my preorder over it. Game looks fun. I'm like watching and shouldn't be watching but there's so much to explore from what I see. Getting 75 of them rainbow cores for the dungeon in the beginning of the game is crazy. Good crazy.
 

SOR5

Member
Nearly everybody who's chipped in + gameplay walkthroughs I've seen on YouTube have been 30-40 second reloads

I haven't seen a single 2 minute load screen outside of this user

Saying this as someone's who's been compiling Recore videos and info constantly
 

Gator86

Member
Over two minutes, shit. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't certification come with load time requirements?

It seems like cert does nothing except "can this game let people hack our console?" Games still crash right and left these days, run like shit, etc.

Recore was rental tier before, but the parade of bad looking gameplay and stuff like this might push it into "wait and see rent mode" which is a pretty sad rating.
 

Zedox

Member
Recore was rental tier before, but the parade of bad looking gameplay and stuff like this might push it into "wait and see rent mode" which is a pretty sad rating.

Can you elaborate on the bad gameplay? From what I see it seems fun. Obviously that's my opinion but I would just like to know what you feel looks bad gameplay wise.
 

Rappy

Member
But you don't know that. You can't make assumptions that you have no idea what the conditions are. If his HD really was faulty or in danger of failing, he would have a lot more problems than just loading times.

The fact that you went to the extreme end case to justify 'the context' shows you're reaching badly to defend against footage that puts the game in a bad light.

It's not your job to defend this game. You just have to decide if you want to buy and enjoy this game.
Okay, do you not realize the problem with this bolded statement and the point I am trying to make regardless of how I feel about the game? (Btw this is more about me ranting about these type of threads than defending the game)

I also said underperforming because that is a different context and HDD/SSDs can underperform under certain context.
 

Tripon

Member
Okay, do you not realize the problem with this bolded statement and the point I am trying to make regardless of how I feel about the game? (Btw this is more about me ranting about these type of threads than defending the game)

I also said underperforming because that is a different context and HDD/SSDs can underperform under certain context.

Pretend I'm dumb. Explain it to me.
 
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