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Pokemon Sun/Moon new info - Starter evolutions, Demo, Ash-Greninja

khaaan

Member
I like the changes they're making for multiplayer/competitive. If they're making getting a set of theoretically EV/IV trained Pokemon as simple as scanning a QR code I wonder if we'll soon see the in-game process of recreating that build even faster. Forget IV's and natures, if EV's take more than a few minutes I'm not interested.
 

Kyzer

Banned
they better bring back battle frontier x10 to give incentive to breed strong pokemon instead of just renting
 

Deerbit

Neo Member
My first thought about those eyes was of the killer clowns stalking midwestern forests lately. Pretty isn't the right word.

Well at least Brionne wont be found in the forsest, for some much needed killer clown diversity

I'm just happy ballio won't be in the game.
 

ash_ag

Member
They had Steven reference a Mega Evo Special and Alain in ORAS, so it wouldn't be that out there. Yeah, the anime story and game story don't fit together, but they've already started doing cross references anyway.

Game counterparts or references to originally anime-exclusive characters are nothing new even before Alain. Characters like A.J., Butler, and Lizabeth have also appeared as "random" NPCs in the games. But that is essentially adapting anime characters in the game world through little tongue-in-cheek references. Ash is already Red's counterpart, so it would be quite odd to making him distinct from Red.

More importantly, this is more than a little vague reference. I'm really curious to see how it plays out.
 
Dartix looks great for a middle evo.
Torracat looks...like a bigger cat in my eyes.
Brionne means we're one step closer to the leaked final evos and thus I'm sticking with Popplio.

Ash-Greninja is taking the L and getting boxed.
 

Delio

Member
I didn't realize when watching the Japanese trailer that they finally have an excuse for what Pokémon do in boxes.

The EZA discussion over this game is gonna be amazing.


Beating relentlessly, being able to sense and be at home in the dark, and having a notoriously bad attitude seem to suggest this as well. Plus the spit.

We all know it's wishful thinking tho. Doesn't make sense for a pro fighter Pokémon to be weak to fighting.

True, it is weird but it just seems like it's a dirty fighter. If it becomes Fire/Fighting then ah well i'll love it but there will be complaints forever lol. If the demo really can be datamined then hopefully we get it confirmed.
 
Team planning:

Pikachu
Charizard (Mega X)
Greninja
Gengar
Espeon
Togekiss

Though I might remove Greninja so I can be more genwunner
 
I can just imagine the episode where Ash's Dartrix evolves.

Some big mean bully Pokemon are picking on some innocent baby Pokemon. Dartrix joins in on the bullying, until one of the big bad Pokemon makes an Igglybuff cry. At that point, Dartrix realizes he's been a big jerk this entire time. He tries standing up to the bullies, but they're too big and just swat him out of the way. With his sense of justice rising, he evolves. He then stalks the bullies to their hideout though the trees, which is packed with stolen food. He defeats the bullies, at night. The next day, the shot starts with the baby Pokemon waking up, and being shocked there's a big pile of food right next to them. The owl is up in the tree tops, watching them. He then returns to the group, which have no idea where he's been since he took off the other day after he evolved.

The rest of the series, he acts as a protector to the group
 

.JayZii

Banned
Dartrix and Torracat look better in motion than in the art in the OP. Brionne looks worse when in motion and modeled in 3D.
 
People are gonna flip their shit when the person who gives you Ash-Greninja is Red, formally confirming that he and Ash are actually one and the same.
 
Game Freak saw how much people disliked Emboar, so they made Delphox Fire/Psychic.

Then they saw how much people disliked Delphox, so they're just going back to what they know.
 

DylanEno

Member
I'm a Popplio hater




BUT OMG BRIONNE IS A QT. Definitely the Braixen of this gen. Emover Owl is gross. Litten on 'roids looks much better in-game, but knowing he's gonna turn into that massive wrestling cat monster... No thanks.
 
There's a new Ice Stone
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Probably for ice Vulpix and maybe Glaceon.
 
Anybody want to play out the Kalos league with me? It's really simple just let my ash greninja wreck your zard X for a bit than get some crits with your fire moves..easy
 

Kid Heart

Member
Ash's Greninja is pretty cool. I'd love to give it a shot on my team.

I'm not sure why people are so shocked anime original stuff was placed into the game universe though. Considering Team Rocket already popped up in Pokemon Yellow before, I don't think it is that surprising.
 

V-Faction

Member
Water Fairy is very good typing though

It is. I suppose I mean the impact it'll have. Rowlet has more options available upfront than Litten or Popplio, which will have to wait till their final evolutions. But also, Popplio will have to contend with the numerous other Water-type Pokemon. If it was dual-type, you could probably justify having it and another dual-type Water Pokemon on your team at the same time.

This is completely ignoring things like Captains and island Trials, and even base stats, to determine the 'difficulty' (so to speak). Just a lot of speculation, really.
 

Joqu

Member
There's a new Ice Stone
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Probably for ice Vulpix and maybe Glaceon.

alolan vulpix would be the obvious one, but I wouldn't mind an eevee retcon. stones are much more convenient than wild battling in a specific spot

if that were to happen leaf, sun and moon stones should work too tho
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
My thoughts as followed;

Dartrix;

Pfftwahahahahahahahaahaha that hair just made me laugh as it looks so silly.

Torracat;

Looks pretty cool and probably will act as my Charizard surrogate, though I might keep him unevolved.

Brionne;

I was expecting the water starter to have a feminine look to her and Brionne just confirms it.

Honestly speaking I am not really feeling the starters, though I might end up using Popplio on my Moon team.

Festival Plaza;

I guess that this is the gen 7 version of the PSS that was in gen 7.

Poké Pelago;

Looks really interesting and will be great for my reserve Pokémon.

Don't care for mega returning and I don't care about Super Greninja so I will pass on them.

But I will take that Demo. :D :D :D :D :D

alolan vulpix would be the obvious one, but I wouldn't mind an eevee retcon. stones are much more convenient than wild battling in a specific spot

if that were to happen leaf, sun and moon stones should work too tho

Game Freak don't retcon evolution, so whatever Pokémon was given to evolve they are stuck with it lest they get the Feebas treatment.
 

Spyware

Member
If you ask me, Rowlet -> Litten -> Popplio is the current standing for creating a Team and centering around the starter as your primary choice. Having Grass AND Flying STAB moves upfront will be very powerful. Plus, a natural-born Fly-user (if HMs still exist).
I've never found grass useful, especially not in the beginning. Way worse than water. The flying type helps against early bugs but water is still the more well-rounded type. I also find water to be the most solid (haha) foundation for a team.

Maybe I just feel Rowlet is a bad choice because I love Oricorio and already decided I just neeeed a Sensu Style one on my team.

Lovelovelove the way Popplio is going. Not a fan of the first one but the evo is adorable and if the leak is correct the final stage will probably be a new fav starter.
 

NathanS

Member
Damn it I like every pokemon so far expect the leaked final forms of the starters. This is the first Gen were I haven't liked any of the starter's whole line. Shit I might just have to box my starter...

That feels so wrong.
 
Because the leaf stone was introduced in Gen 1. It wouldn't make sense if Leafeon evolved from it since it wasn't created until Gen 4.
They could just write some new lore

Leaf stone radiation has changed and now eevee's genetic code has mutated enough for it to evolve

It's not like anyone is going to really give a shit
 
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