Games are required to run at 1080p minimum on pro. They can't be sub native res. So by default BF1 on Pro will run at a higher resolution than PS4. I don't think PS4 ever gets to 1080p
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First downsampled 1080p screens from PS4 Pro (Titanfall 2)
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Games are required to run at 1080p minimum on pro. They can't be sub native res. So by default BF1 on Pro will run at a higher resolution than PS4. I don't think PS4 ever gets to 1080p
lowhighkang_LHK
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I wonder if all this improvement in image quality goes to shit with overscan issues especially with checkerboard rendering techniques. You guys know that on a lot of tv's, 16:9 is the wrong setting right?
Nah, we actually don't give a fuck. It's nice that you think that though.
Please ignore him, some console warriors can't help themselves. Let's not have the thread go to shit again
yeah, it'll be sharper, and you'll get less jaggies, basically better image quality that your display can afford to show
It's been quite a turn to see but not entirely unsurprising considering the original complaints were fabricated concerns to begin with. The biggest turn around to me has been the 'being forced to upgrade' line. It used to be trotted out in almost every PC thread, and now has been strangely absent since the Pro and Scorpio were announced
Next to go is 'I just want to simply put in disc and play without having to tweak settings' since some patched Pro games will have multiple graphics options to choose from.
I have seen both those arguments used multiple times against Pro/Scorpio. Nothings changed, people still complain.
Freeman76
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Haha for your information I play PC as well as console. Im just stating a fact and not trying to cause arguments. Unfortunately some of you are too defensive to see that though, hence you just have to put the console warrior snipe in.
Please, just stop.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
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Well, just pulled the trigger. Target with the 10% off kids wish list was a slightly better deal than amazon. Can't wait til wednesday.
Freeman76
Member
I'm so close to pulling the trigger now but just have a nagging feeling in a few weeks a bundle or two will surface.
supernormal
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I'll be buying a PRO just on the fact that it should be quieter. But it was really VR that pushed me over the edge. Games look really bad on VR right now, and I want to play RE7 with no compromises.
I'm still gonna wait a bit before I get it. Maybe February or something.
I'm still gonna wait a bit before I get it. Maybe February or something.
Freeman76
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Probably more of a risk involved as its a higher price than most GFX cards. Sony have trouble selling the upgrade to non 4k owners as well because its so hard to show in pictures. The DF video touched on that a bit and I can see the guys point.
I don't think so, if anything sony may change some of its policies. Allow pro only games foe example. Right now sony is playing it too safe trying not to alienate existing ps4 owners. They have DOUBLE the power at their disposal and I bet once it's accepted and possibly outselling the slim/standard model ( not in total sales, but month to month ) they will change their tone.
This post is all sorts of NO
Gnome Scat
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Looks great, makes me excited for what the Scorpio will have to offer, too.
Freeman76
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I wonder if Sony have any plans for when Scorpio drops though?
Big difference between the Pro and a graphics card considering a PC doesn't need a patch to make your library look better, and you have control over what performance benefits you want.
Their plan is probably dropping the OG PS4 in 2018
This will absolutely never be the case. Sony has been incredibly clear on this point.
By the time Scorpio drops they will likely already be on a price drop, i think that's a pretty decent plan, and they are still going to sell more regardless globally.
I feel they will stick it out until 2019 and then really hit hard with PS5.
MS has scorpio coming out, but i would say that the impact for whatever system they came out with after that is blunted the more powerful they want to make this one cause the jump will be less impressive. Considering their views on becoming a platform, they can just have devs focus on Scorpio development and wait until 2020/2021 to launch Scorpio 2 or whatever.
It seems like Sony and MS are going more for diverging release dates now, which generally has always been the case for them outside of PS4 and XB1 which just happend to release the same year, only a week apart
PS4 and Pro are the same platform. No point in dropping either one of them in general if they carry the same ecosystem complete with games, and such forward.
Pro is not strong enough to make PS4 irrelevant outside of providing prettier graphics and more stable FPS.
Nintendo still sells 3DS after N3DS was on the market, and will probably stop selling them both at the same time
Movalpolos
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This thread has reassured me that I'm getting what I want with the Pro. Just going to cancel any upgrades to my PC that I was planning on.
michaelius
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Well yeah but for the price of my gpu and cpu I can buy almost 3 PS4PRO consoles
Bound - I've checked a number of stories and some infer additional effects but only resolution bump is confirmed
Paragon - fair enough...but it's still pretty bland i.e. not a showpiece to see what can be achieved
The Last Of Us - enhanced shadow maps...that's it
Ni-Oh - resolution settings to maximise performance or vice versa
Uncharted 4 - no real information so far
inFAMOUS Second Son - increased resolution happens to show particles/smoke effects better
TitanFall 2 - hi-res shadows and more particle effects
So yeah...not much going on really.
Like I said in my caveat, maybe we'll see more from developers with games in production now, rather than a patched release.
A Bound dev has confirmed a whole new lighting system for Pro if I recall?
On PRO there's also additional volumetric lighting added, it's up to you. I think it would be a good thing to play now and then compare with PRO version and write about it from player perspective, because we are so much biased already that it doesn't make sense to say anything
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
M_A_C
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I haven't thought about it that way. Man, PC is glorious.
Steve McQueen
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I did not wanna get a 4K tv, but having played Forza 3 at my friends house does complicate things. I was blown away tbh.
For techGAF.... I have a small room where I play my games and my distance to the screen is about 6 feet / 1.80 meters.
Thinking about buying a 49 inch UEKS7000 Samsung. Will I see the improvements of 4K?
My bud has a gigantic room and a 75 inch tv, so it's hard to compare. Any thoughts?
For techGAF.... I have a small room where I play my games and my distance to the screen is about 6 feet / 1.80 meters.
Thinking about buying a 49 inch UEKS7000 Samsung. Will I see the improvements of 4K?
My bud has a gigantic room and a 75 inch tv, so it's hard to compare. Any thoughts?
Movalpolos
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lol Yup, PC games never need patching to take advantage of a new GPU, but the GPU does.
And PC games never need patching for a new version of DX to get those advantages... oh wait... yes they do.
they're the same platform until Sony says they aren't
That doesn't really change what you get when you compare the Pro to PC imo. I was just answering OPs question.
theonerayman
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I'm not saying you are wrong. But how many times have sent been straight up adamant about something only to change their minds later. The dualshock 3 fiasco comes to mind. I don't trust Sony as far as I can throw their corporate hq
Well, just believing what you want is also fine, but its not really an argument to convince someone of something. Just saying that something has a possibility of happening one day at some point generally is a matter of course.
As far as we know right now, Sony has been clear that PS4 and PS4 Pro are the same console and will be treated similarly until they consider a new console worthy of a next generation upgrade.
Think you are missing his point.
Liabe Brave
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I was just correcting your misapprehension that PS4 Pro wasn't already offering better framerates, better shadows, better geometry, better lighting, better particles, etc. etc. Whether you find particular upgrades compelling is on you. But they are there.
Diablohead
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I love downsampling there's nearly always an improvement in image quality no matter what.
anothertech
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PS5 announcement. Holliday 2019. 15tf machine. CG rendered circuitry and everything.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Yes.
But on older games that don't have a Pro patch like The Order for example, than no. Fortunately all games released from here on out will have Pro support, and there are a surprising number of games that are offering multiple graphical options, which is even better.
It'll be a NURBS console.
You can get a very good CPU+GPU gaming combo for a lot less that 3 PS4 Pro tough
Bruce Springsteen
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When there's a $100 price drop for the Pro I'll jump on board
What is NURBS?
Woah awesome dude!
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
This is not surprising at all. Anyone at this point asking me which PS4 to get between the three models would be insane not to pay the delta and get the Pro.
PeterLegend
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I think you'd have to be more concerned with Microsoft changing their mind the past 3 years than Sony
Checkerboard Render
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Both SS and First Light will also have 1080p high-performance modes for the user to select over high-res as well.
Well certainly debatable, and you basically focused on all the games that don't have performance/image quality options and ignored the ones that do. It's also very early and developers are still getting a handle of what resources they will have to dedicate to produce a PS4 Pro patch. If this is the entire list of pre-november games that get patches in 2 months time then yes, I will agree that would be disappointing.
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