If we're making comparisons, that would be the equivalent of buying a PS5, not the PS4 pro.
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Digital Foundry: PlayStation 4 Pro Review: The First 4K Games Console?
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If we're making comparisons, that would be the equivalent of buying a PS5, not the PS4 pro.
holygeesus
Banned
These in-between resolutions being used by games worry me, as a 4K TV owner. 1080p upscales smoothly to 4K as it is equally divisible, whereas resolutions such as 1440p and above, tend to not be quite as efficient. It's not always true that because there is less upscaling necessary that you are going to get a better quality image over 1080p.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
how old is your pc!? my pc is 5 years old and all I had to upgrade was my gpu and psu.
im still running on a i5 2500k and now that i got all my issues fixed with my cpu and oced it just a tad bit, im crushing my ps4 and xbox one
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Tomorrows Paragon patch adds these new improvements to the game.
PS4 Pro Support added
Extra grass/foliage.
Volumetric effects. (lightshafts, extra fog at base, etc)
Farther HLOD and viewdistance.
Screen Space Reflections.
Motion Blur.
Contact Shadows.
Improved Bloom.
Full 1080p resolution.
Amazing work from Epic Games
PS4 Pro Support added
Extra grass/foliage.
Volumetric effects. (lightshafts, extra fog at base, etc)
Farther HLOD and viewdistance.
Screen Space Reflections.
Motion Blur.
Contact Shadows.
Improved Bloom.
Full 1080p resolution.
Amazing work from Epic Games
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Shame it wont produced the same graphics PS5 would.
Do you, or anyone else on this thread, know if there's going to be any upgrades to Fallout 4?
GinoFelino
Member
Yeah, Bethesda confirmed a Pro patch. Not at launch, though.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
This. Like upgrading my PC is not just a GPU upgrade... Tbh, I need to rebuild the entire thing. I paid $100 for this upgrade and that's with my trade in.. The graphics card in my current PC won't even trade in for half of the cost of a 1080 and I can't just bring it to a local gamestop or best buy to get that value with a bunch of games or maybe controller and use that credit towards a new card..
Do some people realize that not all PCs are built the same compared to consoles that are?
I have no idea where we're going with this lol
To get back to the point (which was what a upgrade would cost), I really don't think on a PC an upgrade akin to the one between PS4 and Pro would cost that much more than the 400 dollars of the console.
If I understand correctly you'd just have to overclock your CPU and buy a beefy GPU. I think the cost would be pretty similar.
Edit: of course that's assuming you already have a PC, otherwise I don't understand what we're arguing about. Of course a PC is more expensive than a console.
Nice! Hope it arrives soon and focuses mainly on the framerate.
LelouchZero
Member
I guess it's more expensive for you seeing as your PC is almost 10 years old, what hardware does it have btw?
The Xbox 360 and PS3 were fairly high-end systems at the time of release, the PS4 and Xbox One were basically in the middle of mid range to low-end systems at their time of release.
Times have changed now and capable PC hardware that is similar in power to or more powerful than the consoles is a lot more affordable.
An Intel Quad Core build from the past 4-5 years would likely just require a GPU upgrade and maybe some additional ram for around £180-300 and be above the PS4 Pro.
joshlpaige
Neo Member
I have a spare SSD that I am considering returning. Hopefully there will be loadtime comparisons done before Thursday. If it's a negligible upgrade, I'll take the drive back.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
Is this game F2P or have a demo?
Has there been any tests yet? SSD showed pretty good improvements on OG PS4, not sure why Pro wouldnt.
Paragon is F2P, was running 900p60fps, with Pro it's 1080p
SumptuousLemur
Banned
Excellent Will download just as a tech demo. Not interested in the game itself.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Excellent, thanks.
psychotron
Member
Yeah, I keep looking for a master list of games that shows the resolution and avg framerate of OG PS4, compared to the various options on Pro. I'd love to see how Battlefield 1 looks and performs on a 1080p set.
DasPenguin
Member
Goddamit, that sucks, alot. I was hoping to finally be rid of my loud old heat throwing PS4 only to walk right into another
Yep.I guess I'm out until they make one that doesn't sound like a blow dryer. Already went through two super loud PS4's, really don't want another one. Love the console but this is the first time when I need my console to remain quiet, especially at night.
MorshuTheTrader
Neo Member
So what do we know about the BF1 pro patch? Having a hard time finding any information.
Not out yet appearently.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
I think you're overreacting just a bit.....DF mentions how the pitch is noticeable at times, but another site calls it the "Quietest PS4 to date", so honestly i think this is going to vary based on a ton of factors. Quite frankly, i think this issue needs to be fully explored by one of these review sites and i'm surprised that no one has despite the fact that they've had this console for days or weeks to test it out.
I think we need to wait for more details on this before freaking out.
VincentMatts
Member
ah man are you serious..... That fucking sucks ass. My ps4 was already a jet plane. Fucking christ man, what a bummer.
Intel C2D E6420 (overclocked to 2.8 GHZ, lol)
Nvidia 768 MB GTX 460 (Replaced the original 320MB 8800 GTS which died after four years)
2 whole GB of RAM
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
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If you are, here's another take on the noise level.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2016/11/video_ps4_pro_is_the_quietest_playstation_4_to_date
thatJohann
Member
Does Uncharted 4 have any PS4 Pro enhancements for 1080p TV sets (e.g. supersampling)?
| Praxis |
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Yeah, no upgrading that. You'll have to start from scratch.
Most media outlets don't really have the staff or the technical know how to actually compare these types of things on a fine grain level. That is why DF, VG Gamer, NX gamer and such exist.
They can only do general side by sides which can be very misleading on places like youtube.
The campaign is 1440p 30fps and the multiplayer is 1080p 60fps. So in campaign yes. Multiplayer gets native res and 60fps.
Are you serious?
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
my gaming pc in 2011 cost about 1200 as well.
my xbox 360 didn't cost 260 tho...it cost 300. my ps3 cost 300. my xbox one cost 350. my ps4 (launch) cost 400.
1350.
i upgraded my gpu and my psu on my pc - 500.
not spending 400 on ps4 pro and scorpio (lets just say scorpio is 500)
i save 400.
GG
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Some of us sit right next to our consoles and can quite clearly hear their noise output levels
MorshuTheTrader
Neo Member
Do we know if it'll be out in time for the release?
Equanimity
Member
There's a clear difference in resolution and it's quite easy to tell, even on a 1080p TV. But maybe you're right, some just can't see it.
You said "If you already own a PS4? Not worth it. If you don't have a PS4 yet, absolutely pick the Pro over the Slim"
If the person in question has a PS4, they will most likely trade it towards the Pro and save around $150-200.
If I had a GTX 750 and wanted to upgrade to a RX 470 for better image quality, framerates and graphical features at 1080p, wouldn't that be a worthy upgrade?
Absolutely. There are plenty of benefits for a very small price increases.
Karspankey
Banned
Downsample from a native 4K (which will look very nice) and possible slight increase in draw distance. Note that the draw distance is already higher than what the vanilla PC release could do!
Sony confirmed that it will be available day one.
Lister
Banned
Lister
Banned
This is not true. It is exactly the same as the vanilla PC could do... and that's only if you ignore ugrids .ini tweak, which you shouldn't.
Also, apparently this is still nto true according to DF:
"Draw distances are also fleshed out with more in the way of foliage and geometric objects visible at range, whereas on PS4 and Xbox One the game's LOD system is slightly more aggressive in culling these details. This leads to slightly more in the way of pop-in, though this aspect of the game is improved over the original PC version. Furthermore, volumetric lighting is also given a slightly stronger implementation, which creates a little more bloom within light shafts over the PS4 and Xbox One versions."
Thank you. Sounds like a worthy upgrade from my PS3 version.
nycgamer4ever
Member
Leave ND alone. They're working on the TLOU 2 and a new IP!
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
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I take it the only native 4K games will be PS3 remasters and indies?
timetokill
Banned
Throw in the avg. $50/yr for XBL and PSN, so don't forget the extra $400 for the past 8 years of online play. And that's assuming you only paid for one service for the last 8 years.
Meanwhile, that money just disappears. You can't sell that online time.
If you think it's worth it then that's fine, I personally don't. The graphics card comparison doesn't quite work either as when you upgrade your GPU, you aren't limited to what options the devs see fit, if I want to run a game in 60fps, I can with a new GPU..It's MY choice. I can also go back and play older games at much higher fps/resolution with a GPU too, the Pro for the most part is current and future titles only, and who knows how many of those will be half arsed attempts.
And sports titles.