PanicFreak
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That only assumes that the game would get made with or without the help of the platform holder. That's not always the case.
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GamesIndustry.biz: Where are the Xbox One's exclusives?
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That only assumes that the game would get made with or without the help of the platform holder. That's not always the case.
RichiRamjag
Member
Agree completely
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I don't agree. Exclusives that are tailored to a specific hardware, making use of its specific interface and being optimised to that specific technological internals have a great value. It's just that PS4 and Xbone are almost indistinguishable, but that's not a general problem, just a problem between those two platforms. Still, a game making clever use of the rumble triggers for instance might not be possible to realise adequately on PS4. Moreover, we will only get Banjo-Threeie as an exclusive if we ever get it, so no, it is not better if there are less exclusives.
Also they kind of own the second biggest distribution platform on PC so it's against their own interests to go exclusive.
LordRaptor
Member
MS aren't going to buy exclusivity for anything they can't put on the W10 appstore, and CDP aren't going to release a game that isn't first and foremost available on GOG
xrnzaaas
Member
I don't see chances of that happening. The worst case scenario imo is that Forza 7 may end up looking uglier on a standard Xbox One than Forza 6 (as a result of adding stuff like dynamic weather or more AI cars in Forza 7), but I'm pretty sure the content will be the same for all consoles (not counting the VR mode obviously).
nekkid
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Unknown?
Member
Lol but Sony has already announced the games for the current year and we got to play them to boot last year. A few of them delayed but you act like announcing games due in a year or more means they don't have anything announced for the current year. Not to mention there are games from MS's 14/15 shows that haven't released yet.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Makes me kinda sad when I think back to the early 360 days. So many great exclusives. Poor Spencer. Still cleaning up that mess after Mattrick.
It's lost cause though unless Sony doesn't screw up big time. Well...
It's lost cause though unless Sony doesn't screw up big time. Well...
Bits N Pieces
Member
One swallow does not a Summer make and one cancelled Scalebound does not make a drought.
It's mid January, there are no real new news stories, so you can expect to see lots of 'editorial' pieces like this one for the next few weeks.
It's going to be fun to go around in circles for a wee while
It's mid January, there are no real new news stories, so you can expect to see lots of 'editorial' pieces like this one for the next few weeks.
It's going to be fun to go around in circles for a wee while
xrnzaaas
Member
I'm gonna bookmark this
All righty, send me a reminder just in case if I'll have to sell my OG Xbox One.
A lot of posters seemingly trying to bury their head in the sand and act like Scalebound's cancellation isn't a very large symptom of a much bigger issue the Xbox brand has been facing for years now.
As the second highest possible profile cancellation the Xbox One has seen within the last year, you'd have to be living in an especially isolated little bubble to not see what a bad situation the platform is currently in on the games front.
I don't know what makes you think this, considering that every new FF title announced since Type 0 has been skipping Xbox. No reason to believe this is likely to change with FFVIIR.
As the second highest possible profile cancellation the Xbox One has seen within the last year, you'd have to be living in an especially isolated little bubble to not see what a bad situation the platform is currently in on the games front.
I don't know what makes you think this, considering that every new FF title announced since Type 0 has been skipping Xbox. No reason to believe this is likely to change with FFVIIR.
I would take an avatar bet on how it'll not, but we have no idea how long this supposed exclusivity is going to last or when the game will release all it's episodes or even just the first one.
I would take an avatar bet on how it'll not, but we have no idea how long this supposed exclusivity is going to last or when the game will release all it's episodes or even just the first one.
lightskintwin
Banned
It's too big of a game not too, unlike the others.
We can avatar bet. FFVIIR will at some point release on Xbox One.
I'm bookmarking it. If it's annouced I'll use your avatar from announcement to release on Xbox 1, if it's clear that it won't get released you'll use an avatar of my choice for 3 months.
michaelius
Banned
CDP is a bit too smart to commit commercial suicide like this. They are really popular in Easter and Central Europe and that's area where PS4 and PC gaming is dominating.
This. They were arrogant with the Xbox One, in 2013 they shat on their core audience with the Kinect TV Box; someone probably thought that with such a lead they didn't need exclusives.
Four years passed and it seems turning that ship was impossible.
If SE thought this, they would never have gone timed exclusive for PS4 to begin with. They essentially are using PS4 as lead platform.
I can see PC, but not XB1, especially after FF15 likely bombing on the platform
lightskintwin
Banned
You have no idea the business considerations that went into making it a timed exclusive for Sony. The fact they went out there way to not say console exclusive, let's you know the Xbox port is likely. Not to mention, by the time the game comes out there will have been more Xbox ones and Scorpios on the market.
Use the Avator of my choosing if I win.
Bet.
MS should buy Nintendo
Nintendo should buy MS.
Honest question. Is Microsoft's list of directly published exclusives actually that much different than the directly publushed exclusives from their competitors for 2017?
To clarify what I mean by directly published, I mean games that are funded and published by the platform vendor (example: Detroit) as opposed to titles that are only on the platform because the third party publisher has no interest in releasing their game elsewhere (example: Star Ocean).
To clarify what I mean by directly published, I mean games that are funded and published by the platform vendor (example: Detroit) as opposed to titles that are only on the platform because the third party publisher has no interest in releasing their game elsewhere (example: Star Ocean).
In what dimension?
Do you bet against the San Antonio Spurs?
lightskintwin
Banned
Everytime.
CDPR owns GOG.
There will never be any kind of exclusivity where they don't sell their own game on their own store.
*Guy on phone from Taken voice* Good luck.
MegaSackman
Member
So far I think it is: Sony probably has Gravity Rush 2, Nioh (this is published by Sony? I don't know), Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier Automata? (I don't know the deal on this game), GT Sports, Dreams (this is supposed to be out this year I guess) and I think we can count Housemarque games like Nex Machina and Matterfall (if it comes out this year).
Both companies probably have announced and unannounces games without set dates that'll end up coming out this year.
So far there are 13 Sony announced games for 2017, that includes Parappa remaster, Patapon remaster and Wipeout Collection as well as the arguable Ni-OH that is published in EU and NA by Sony as well as new games Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Drawn to Death, Knack 2, Shin Minna no Golf, Gran Turismo Sport, MLB 17 and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.
There are 7 Microsoft published games announced so far for 2017, that includes Phantom Dust remaster and Halo Wars remaster and the new Cuphead, Halo Wars 2, Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2.
Nintendo should have more than both announced across 3ds and Switch
So far there are 13 Sony announced games for 2017, that includes Parappa remaster, Patapon remaster and Wipeout Collection as well as the arguable Ni-OH that is published in EU and NA by Sony as well as new games Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Drawn to Death, Knack 2, Shin Minna no Golf, Gran Turismo Sport, MLB 17 and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.
There are 7 Microsoft published games announced so far for 2017, that includes Phantom Dust remaster and Halo Wars remaster and the new Cuphead, Halo Wars 2, Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2.
Nintendo should have more than both announced across 3ds and Switch
Nex Machina and Nier: Automata aren't being published by Sony, so while they are exclusives, they wouldn't fit under this definition. Nioh is being published by Sony in EU and NA, so that one probably counts.
So, for 2017: Horizon, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, GT Sport, Gravity Rush 2, MLB The Show 17, Nioh, Dreams, Matterfall, Knack 2, Crash N. Sane Collection, Wipeout Omega Collection, PaRappa/Patapon/LocoRoco Remastered, Hot Shots Golf, Drawn to Death, and probably one of [Detroit/Days Gone/God of War].
Nioh is published by Sony in Europe/America.
Yepedited to fix that. I had forgotten that they were publishing outside of Japan.
MegaSackman
Member
Surprised that Housemarque games aren't published by Sony... I guess they stay exclusive out of convenience/good relationship and not having to develop more than one version of their games.
Edit: What about Crash remastered/remakes? What's the deal on those? I asume Sony holds some rights over the original games otherwise, what prevents Activision of going multi with the collection?
Nex Machina is the first Housemarque game since Outland (2011) to not be published by Sony. Matterfall, which is also supposed to be coming this year, is SIE-published. I'm curious why Sony isn't publishing Nex Machina, though, as it appears it will still be a PS4 console exclusive. Maybe Housemarque is testing the waters for more self-publishing so that they can get their games on PC (where I suspect they'd do quite well).
Thank you.
I guess my feeling is that... if I were to make a stack of the top 20 selling games of the year in the West, at best, we might fit a couple of Sony's games into the bottom, and Microsoft would probably miss altogether.
Like, that's a worse line-up, certainly, but I'm not sure either of them is actually acting as a major driving force behind their platform's success, at least with this year's line-up.
I get this issue more as a long term horizon outlook, because as Microsoft loses partners, it becomes harder for them to hypothetically compete late this generation, and especially next generation, if we view Sony as a company with notably more investment overall. But for 2017 itself, every time I see that Microsoft list posted, it actually doesn't look that egregious when comparing.
I guess my feeling is that... if I were to make a stack of the top 20 selling games of the year in the West, at best, we might fit a couple of Sony's games into the bottom, and Microsoft would probably miss altogether.
Like, that's a worse line-up, certainly, but I'm not sure either of them is actually acting as a major driving force behind their platform's success, at least with this year's line-up.
I get this issue more as a long term horizon outlook, because as Microsoft loses partners, it becomes harder for them to hypothetically compete late this generation, and especially next generation, if we view Sony as a company with notably more investment overall. But for 2017 itself, every time I see that Microsoft list posted, it actually doesn't look that egregious when comparing.
Either you are wrong or they're fucking liars cause from everything they say , it will just be a better ps4 pro
All I know is that E3 better be something grand for both Nintendo & Microsoft. They both have really good hardware, they just need to give people multiple reasons to go out and buy their console. All Sony has to do is make 1 or 2 announcements and then show footage of games they haven't shown much of like Spider-Man.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Hm, don't know about that, both Horizon and Gran Turismo have the potential of becoming major sales drivers for their platform. So does Sea of Thieves btw. At least this is what I hope for Rare.
I'm willing to bet that Gran Turismo will do much better than expected in Europe.
I feel Theorry's chart above does a good job illustrating my feelings.
It's also worth noting that counts bundled copies, which helped push Uncharted and Forza Horizon up the list quite a bit even if they would have made the Top 20 anyway.
I think that's only three exclusives as well since Minecraft is multiplatform.
That's not to say Horizon and GTS won't move units, but the motivational factors to buying a console appear to be third party games.
Like, if we pretend it won't get delayed, I have to imagine RDR2 would represent the vast majority of game driven PS4/XB1 console purchases this year.
It says everything about Microsoft's approach to video games that they refuse to put their old games on GOG/Steam and would rather just sit on them without doing anything and let them fade into obscurity.
Same thing with their exclusive focus on the US and their disregard for other places in the world. Couple this with their creative approach to greenlighting larger budget games that are always centered around guns, sports, and cars, and frankly, I feel completely alienated by their branding and lack of concern about what I personally prioritize in video games.
Same thing with their exclusive focus on the US and their disregard for other places in the world. Couple this with their creative approach to greenlighting larger budget games that are always centered around guns, sports, and cars, and frankly, I feel completely alienated by their branding and lack of concern about what I personally prioritize in video games.
Crayon
Member
They make a product for you. It's called an original Xbox.
MegaSackman
Member
This is why Horizon is the most interesting game for Sony in a long time business wise (from a curious person viewpoint of course). With this I mean:
Think about potentially new big hits that Sony has launched this gen, I can only think of one: The Order 1886 and well know how that went. We may argue that Bloodborne was a hit but I don't know if it'll be a franchise nor I think it sold that much to be considered that, it was pretty important from a critical reception standpoint. But if you think about new ips to build a franchise, Horizon is the first since The Order and since that game was a failure (to my own dissapointment) is interesting to see how this new attempt goes.
It's also interesting to me in that it's going after the burgeoning audience of younger girls and women who are into core gaming.
That's probably the biggest thing I can see going for Sony this year in terms of trying to get audiences they might not already have among their first party content.
gundamkyoukai
Member
All games are bundle any way so that don't really matter .
Plus that is only one country for eg UC4 has sold over 500k in Germany if i remember right.
Also GTS could be huge in EU if done right.
disappeared
Banned
I had a weird dream last night that I upgraded to an xb1s except it was black like the og xb1. and came bundled with some sort of Rare platformer or something.