You realize that 1080p screen means alot less resources to go around which equates to cutting back in other areas.
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Switch: Capcom's request to Nintendo was accepted for more memory space
- Thread starter lwilliams3
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You realize that 1080p screen means alot less resources to go around which equates to cutting back in other areas.
MetalliCabombination
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all im saying is if all this is achievable in $400 , the switch could surely do better as a dedicated console cutting down on all multimedia features.
doesnt have to be 1080p , doesnt have to be oled, doesnt have to have 64gb.
just have something thats genuinely impressive looking, not because of art but because of tech.
or price the console like the 3ds and good god reduce the cost of peripherals.
Can Switch run RE7 ? Or Would capcom be satisfied with results and release the game ?
I searched 720p Resident evil 7 , found a low end PC with 1280x720 , lowest settings
getting 25-30 fps (inconsistent)
It has 700 GFlops(692 exact) compared to 393
Main memory bandwith of lowest card gets 25 fps on with lowest graphics is that 40 GB/s
while Switch is 25.6 GB . Switch is %50 slower then lowest(not even minimum) PC thats play game on 720p with everything closed. While it looks like shit it barely gets 25 fps.
And game has to run good on Handheld mode too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiJrMWKT5p4
Not wanting to crush your dreams but i dont think thats plausible even how scalable engine is.
Your One+3 can't do something like BOTW
It doesn't have a powerfull enough GPU to do so.
metalslimer
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Do people not realize that there are few mobile devices with 6 GB of RAM and I don't rve5think 8 is out yet. 4GB is very modern
Vital Tundra
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Why are so many people so dense? 4GB is a lot considering what the Switch is. Yeah its a "home console" but I didn't realize other home consoles were the size of a tablet. Show me the dedicated video game hardware the size of the Switch with that much memory. PLEASE.
I swaer any time people see things about the Switches power they shit on it, despite the fact that the thing is a thin as fuck tablet.
I swaer any time people see things about the Switches power they shit on it, despite the fact that the thing is a thin as fuck tablet.
Lol, it doesn't work like that. If Capcom were to release RE7 for the Switch and want a good port, they will specifically optimise it for the Switch HW.
Do you also think the PS3 couldn't handle Splinter Cell Double Agent back in the day? Ubisoft made a cheap and lazy port by removing all kinds of effects.
edit: Just checked the video. Holy shit that guys voice is annoying as fuck. Did you actually watched the video you linked yourself? "Barely gets 25fps". The game is constantly running at 35+fps, there was like one scene where it
dropped to 25 for a second and went back up immediately. If anything, the video you linked actually proofs a very good RE7 port is very much possible for the Switch, especially like I said, if Capcom optimises it for the Switch HW.
It's really nice for the power envelope of the Switch more so when the OS footprint is only 0.8G
That's just BSish speculation from them.
There is 0 chance of the next title not also being on 3DS, unless the Switch sells Wii/DS-esque gangbuster numbers. They won't abandon their primary market in Japan. I agree that a PS4 port is likely in the cards if they take the time to develop HD assets and not just up-port the 3DS version ala 3U.
That seems like a weird place to cut memory costs though.
JonnyDBrit
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Well... I sorta get it.
As discussed in previous threads months ago, 4GB is technically enough - albeit not at all ideal - to run most games currently out there. Here's an example of 4GB being used to run something like The Witcher 3:
https://youtu.be/Eu_N3N3v-Ms
What Nintendo will be aiming for with regards to ports from third parties is not to be 1:1 with the likes of Xbox One or PS4, and certainly not a high end PC. What they will want is to be able to provide and achieve an acceptable minimum in comparison, and I suspect that's what Capcom may have pushed them on.
That said, 8 would have been nice, since we're not well into the swing of the current consoles and their lifecycles, meaning that while Switch may achieve an acceptable minimum now, it may be caught out later on (assuming it's enough of a success to still be a factor in a few years).
As discussed in previous threads months ago, 4GB is technically enough - albeit not at all ideal - to run most games currently out there. Here's an example of 4GB being used to run something like The Witcher 3:
https://youtu.be/Eu_N3N3v-Ms
What Nintendo will be aiming for with regards to ports from third parties is not to be 1:1 with the likes of Xbox One or PS4, and certainly not a high end PC. What they will want is to be able to provide and achieve an acceptable minimum in comparison, and I suspect that's what Capcom may have pushed them on.
That said, 8 would have been nice, since we're not well into the swing of the current consoles and their lifecycles, meaning that while Switch may achieve an acceptable minimum now, it may be caught out later on (assuming it's enough of a success to still be a factor in a few years).
I specifically said "Or Would capcom be satisfied with results and release the game "
Why bother if they are gonna remove all effects and looks like cheap?
It makes no sense at all
Astral Dog
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Wait,it was going to have LESS?
Maybe they were talked about the amount used for games,or something else.
Maybe they were talked about the amount used for games,or something else.
That GPU is strong as OG PS4. Ram itself doesnt runs games alone
theaffection
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Segas bromance with Capcom was better than Nintendos bromance with Capcom 😤😤😔
Mr. Wonderful
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This thread... At now likely 4GB, the amount of RAM is not the spec that I would be asking to be better in the Switch.
Our biggest gain would likely be pushing for the most advanced possible manufacturing process and architecture for the system on a chip, and maybe memory bandwidth.
Our biggest gain would likely be pushing for the most advanced possible manufacturing process and architecture for the system on a chip, and maybe memory bandwidth.
If MH5 is a 2017 game (which I somewhat doubt at this point), I'd agree. But with Fire Emblem jumping ship next year & Pokémon rumored to be doing the same later this year, we may see a widespread shift away from the 3DS in Late 2017 onwards.
JonnyDBrit
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Oh, I realise, and don't disagree. My point is on stressing that in terms of RAM usage, 4GB can be enough. Whether or not the Switch measures up in other areas is another matter.
RecRoulette
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"Do you want Monster Hunter or not?" probably goes a long way in these discussions.
A bespoke port is not the same as a PC version with settings turned down.
lwilliams3
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True, but Nintendo still buffed a hardware spec due to Capcom's feedback. They even commented how disappointing it was compared to other consoles, and now it is within expectations. They have done this for controller features, but I don't recall Nintendo adjusting hardware specs for their consoles due to third party feedback. That is a little surprising.
Yeah their message was "this handheld isn't a handheld so please keep buying the 3DS and the Switch"
There are things an optimization can do and cannot do. I mean if they are entirely making a special version of a game thats cool and fine but optimizing doesnt mean making game suddenly works on lower levels of hardware. At that point Switch version could be easily its own game.
Skittzo0413
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I'm pretty sure they were talking about storage space, not RAM.
Yup it's definitely threadworthy I just think people are reading memory as RAM but ignoring the context which seems to imply storage space.
Right but turning settings down a PC version is not representative regardless of whether or not a port(of RE7 in this case) is feasible.
Astral Dog
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I believe this could be simply be about the amount reserved for games,even if its "just" a portable,Nintendo increases the memory from one platform to the next.
3.25 GB however,sounds irregular,when compared with the amount Nintendo has used before (64MB out of 128 for 3DS,1GB out of 2 for WiiU)
So my guess is they were planning to reserve 2GB for Switch,maybe 2.5 at most until plans changed.
Yeah it sounds like storage memory,but the first posts were about the RAM so i figured that.
Anyways the comment still applies
If I'm reading this right then their X2 statement is based on hearsay, looks like they're still in the process of taking it apart.
And my iPhone 7 has 2GB of RAM but still runs faster and more efficiently than almost every other smartphone out there.
Bottom of the barrel in 2017!
My iPhone 7 Plus has 3GB, also bottom of the barrel! Sad!
MH has been running on MT Framework (well, the Lite version, at least) since MH3U. I don't think it's that crazy that it would simply move onto the full version for future entries.
Astral Dog
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Not this shit again 😧
Its a freaking portable guys,no known handheld/smartphone was using 8 GB until this year.
And it would be useless to eat the cost of 8 GB for an upgraded Wii U,
i was hoping for 6 though,before knowing more about the capabilities of the system
Wii. Not WiiU.
Alter_Fridge
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Basically. It's the whole "third pillar" thing again.
Was "bottom of the barrel" when they launched in September 2014, only 5 months ago.
They still run like a dream.
Skittzo0413
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Except not in Japanese translations. Which is my whole point. Memory almost always means storage there.
Like in this very article:
NeonZ
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Just go with both. The main game using only completely newly modeled monsters up until the main story is over (so, most casual players would experience just enhanced graphics) - but keep monsters and locations with lower quality models for the online high rank/post main story quests, allowing the people who want to spend a lot of time on the game to continue playing even if the assets at that point are lower quality.
Living the Dream
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Please keep coming with us excuses that you've no idea what you're talking about.
Calm Mind
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Cool story bro.
The thing that makes me think its about RAM is the fact that Capcom was saying it was low compared to other consoles. Going from 16GB to 32GB is still super low compared to other consoles and dev kits have 64GB anyway...
CouchMaster
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Its plenty for a handheld. And before you mention battery life let me counter it by saying its a home console.
Astral Dog
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The Switch is,however 40% at most of what the Xbox ONE can do.
How do you propse using that much memory for a portable system?
That amount should be enough for smaller games but you run into many other bottlenecks before RAM becomes an issue when porting the latest AAA game on Switch.
If anything 8GB sounds ok for an upgraded Switch in a few years
Noooooo! Give us RE7, dammit!! :'( I still remember when there was some rumors saying that both FFXV and RE7 would be on the Switch available on launch day hahahahah :'(
Skittzo0413
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That's a fair point, though 32GB is still far higher than 16GB. 16GB probably wouldn't even hold a single digital game from most big third parties, whereas with 32GB you have a little more breathing room.
I guess it could be about RAM but nothing about the context seems to indicate RAM to me, even the comparison to other consoles, while other parts of the article seem to indicate memory is being discussed as storage space. They even call it "memory space".
Nintendo Everything's source appears to be a Japanese twitter account, perhaps someone can find the relevant tweets and translate?
Capcom are requesting this and all they've shown is a SNES port. =|
I thought Switch was expensive when it was first revealed but it's actually pretty cheap considering the specs of the console and how advance the Joycons are. Truthfully I would have preferred to have less advanced controllers and a more powerful system.
I thought Switch was expensive when it was first revealed but it's actually pretty cheap considering the specs of the console and how advance the Joycons are. Truthfully I would have preferred to have less advanced controllers and a more powerful system.
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