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Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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This is actually really amazing to me. I scrolled past this stuff on the last page because I was in such a rush to share my thoughts on Pitioss but I love everything about this. They put so much time into this random dungeon that most people will probably never run into (nor is there really any incentive to).
I know you're banned right now and can't respond but you can explain it any way you want, the story was pretty terrible even by video game stories. If you enjoyed it, props to you.
It's not a parry 'kill' animation, it's just the regular parry animation, you can trigger it repeatedly. This person just, for some reason, decided to trigger it so it would also kill the adamantoise, which then plays the same death animation. Just thought I'd clear this up.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
Not to mention the story actually isn't from Noctis' perspective considering all the scenes without him like the empire, the scenes with Luna alone and with Ravus, etc.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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Is this real? Wow.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
I can't confirm, but I read it's from Game Informer.
royox
Member
"The story was told from Noctis's perspective...
...except for the scenes that weren't. Ignore those, they undermine my excuses for poor storytelling."
HammerFace
Banned
You're not wrong, the story has plenty of problems and could have been better all around, but to be fair your initial complaints were about things the game does answer and explain.
I think he was banned because of how vehemently he defended FFXV, I don't really know and it's all speculation but he came off as insulting to people in some of posts at least that's how I saw some of them.
Also that just feels like an excuse honestly rather than a direction for how the story went.
Ganon Dragmire
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meltingparappa
Member
There's the potential for a really fascinating talk about how they had to juggle all the spinoffs while continually recobbling the narrative last minute, all while working on an adaptation of what Nomura's pseudo-yakuza ghost story was all about.
But the panel is all of 30 minutes, and it's way too soon to get an honest, insightful post mortem.
Plus being GDC, the last ten minutes will be a Q&A of someone rambling out a question that has nothing to do with the panel, and eventually just a means to plug their own game.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
This is mindblowing. I'm 100% sold.
If this theory is true, the other Astral are really the biggest asshole around seriously. That would mean everything, from start to finish, is their fault...
Yep. I have the issue it's from.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
That's incredibly sad. I lost all hope in story dlc now.
He also said this about side characters:
Its not that we decreased the roll of the side characters, he explained. Focusing on many characters in the game means that the allocation given to the main characters will decrease. Instead of creating a comprehensive and perfectly balanced story, we placed greater importance on the four main characters and strived to depict a world seen from their perspective.
Well, the story DLC is supposed to correct this. They appear to be very serious about fixing the story to meet fan expectations.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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I'm sorry but this is incredible bullshite, Tabata. Many games do side characters extremely well by still having amazing main characters. Witcher 3 is an example. The 4 bros were interesting but this quote doesn't seem like it takes into account the "depiction". We don't know much of anything about the bros but Noctis.
If that was actually what they thought they were doing then they really failed.
Ignoring the side characters that don't do much of anything, there is no sense at all that the Empire actually has a population.
Even Insomnia seemed to be a city of 100 people.
I can't believe that's how Noctis and Co perceived the world.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
What will it exactly fix that's already broken though? Tabata just admitted a comprehensive story was not in the plans for the game. FF is built around comprehensive and great stories. It just sounds bad for the future right now.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Noctis and Nomura were robbed of true greatness.
They only said this in regard to chapter 13. Not sure where people are getting these expectations from that they're going to overhaul all of the issues.
What is this shit.
Crazy considering the rumor there was already a trilogy of story content.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I believe the bit about wanting to focus on Noctis, but it doesn't excuse the holes in the storytelling. You can make it character focused and cohesive.
I don't know if all of the issues can be fixed but he did mention the second half of the game and not just Chapter 13. The DLCs should also provide a lot of story info, especially since we see Cor is with Gladio.
They'll reveal why Ravus walked the path he did, though.
Honestly I like Tabata and he's a guy who's an excellent manager and pretty much accomplishes all his goals that he sets out for a game. It's unfortunate that he sometimes makes strange decisions when it comes to those goals.
It's hard to take him seriously when the characters they claim to have focused on were just as shallow as the ones they didn't. The only thing the bros have going for them is occasionally entertaining banter. I never really felt like I knew them as individuals.
victreeb3l
Member
Kind of like the themes of a lot of Greek mythologies. Stupid Gods fuck things up and humans pay the price.
Except the four main characters are extremely poorly developed as well.
And even stuff like Gladio taking off mid game inexplicably, Ignis' Unexplained,unseen blindness and Prompto's being a robot or some shit are poorly setup,not explained or absent all together.
Really not a fan of them spinning this into "we were trying something revolutionary,you just don't get it" narrative.
The game simply fails when it comes to any form of story telling.
New 4chan leaks:
"1.05 update makes Somnus play through final dungeon (Insomnia) through fights. Further development of FINAL FANTASY XV is ongoing.
- Additional cutscenes with Ravus and Niflheim to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE PROMPTO content.
- Additional cutscenes with Noctis and Luna to be added into New Game mode.
- Additional cutscenes with Cor Leonis and Regis to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE GLADIOLUS content.
- PLATINUM DEMO to be added to main game as bonus mode.
- EPISODE IGNIS to be released Q4 2017.
- Unannounced expansion, "WORLD OF VERSUS" to be unveiled at E3 2017 (release Q1 2018.) Expect this to be of a much darker tone than the base game. Covers "The demons Noctis faces during his 10 year slumber." This is the "VERSUS" world, the world of dreams that Noctis can enter in his slumber. Themes of loss and tragedy will be developed and expanded upon.
No further updates at this time."
- Additional cutscenes with Ravus and Niflheim to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE PROMPTO content.
- Additional cutscenes with Noctis and Luna to be added into New Game mode.
- Additional cutscenes with Cor Leonis and Regis to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE GLADIOLUS content.
- PLATINUM DEMO to be added to main game as bonus mode.
- EPISODE IGNIS to be released Q4 2017.
- Unannounced expansion, "WORLD OF VERSUS" to be unveiled at E3 2017 (release Q1 2018.) Expect this to be of a much darker tone than the base game. Covers "The demons Noctis faces during his 10 year slumber." This is the "VERSUS" world, the world of dreams that Noctis can enter in his slumber. Themes of loss and tragedy will be developed and expanded upon.
No further updates at this time."
New 4chan leaks:
"1.05 update makes Somnus play through final dungeon (Insomnia) through fights. Further development of FINAL FANTASY XV is ongoing.
- Additional cutscenes with Ravus and Niflheim to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE PROMPTO content.
- Additional cutscenes with Noctis and Luna to be added into New Game mode.
- Additional cutscenes with Cor Leonis and Regis to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE GLADIOLUS content.
- PLATINUM DEMO to be added to main game as bonus mode.
- EPISODE IGNIS to be released Q4 2017.
- Unannounced expansion, "WORLD OF VERSUS" to be unveiled at E3 2017 (release Q1 2018.) Expect this to be of a much darker tone than the base game. Covers "The demons Noctis faces during his 10 year slumber." This is the "VERSUS" world, the world of dreams that Noctis can enter in his slumber. Themes of loss and tragedy will be developed and expanded upon.
No further updates at this time."
What are they referring to when they say "New Game mode"? Aren't they adding the cutscenes into the standard game but only into a new mode? Like in a FFXV Extended Cut or something? o__O
NoctisVsStar
Member
New 4chan leaks:
"1.05 update makes Somnus play through final dungeon (Insomnia) through fights. Further development of FINAL FANTASY XV is ongoing.
- Additional cutscenes with Ravus and Niflheim to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE PROMPTO content.
- Additional cutscenes with Noctis and Luna to be added into New Game mode.
- Additional cutscenes with Cor Leonis and Regis to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE GLADIOLUS content.
- PLATINUM DEMO to be added to main game as bonus mode.
- EPISODE IGNIS to be released Q4 2017.
- Unannounced expansion, "WORLD OF VERSUS" to be unveiled at E3 2017 (release Q1 2018.) Expect this to be of a much darker tone than the base game. Covers "The demons Noctis faces during his 10 year slumber." This is the "VERSUS" world, the world of dreams that Noctis can enter in his slumber. Themes of loss and tragedy will be developed and expanded upon.
No further updates at this time."
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DiipuSurotu
Banned
Final Fantasy Versus Versus XIII
RecRoulette
Member
Man it'd be a waste if the multiplayer mode is just in Noctis' head.
New 4chan leaks:
"1.05 update makes Somnus play through final dungeon (Insomnia) through fights. Further development of FINAL FANTASY XV is ongoing.
- Additional cutscenes with Ravus and Niflheim to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE PROMPTO content.
- Additional cutscenes with Noctis and Luna to be added into New Game mode.
- Additional cutscenes with Cor Leonis and Regis to be added into New Game mode in addition to EPISODE GLADIOLUS content.
- PLATINUM DEMO to be added to main game as bonus mode.
- EPISODE IGNIS to be released Q4 2017.
- Unannounced expansion, "WORLD OF VERSUS" to be unveiled at E3 2017 (release Q1 2018.) Expect this to be of a much darker tone than the base game. Covers "The demons Noctis faces during his 10 year slumber." This is the "VERSUS" world, the world of dreams that Noctis can enter in his slumber. Themes of loss and tragedy will be developed and expanded upon.
No further updates at this time."
Very intriguing if true. More Cor, Regis, and Luna scenes would be so very welcome
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The leak says unannounced expansion though. The multiplayer content, Comrades, has been announced since the Season Pass.
im gonna fucking die. make it stop.
By the time all DLCs are released FFXV will be at update 1.44 or something, fulfilling everyone's wildest dreams!
Not that I'm complaining if the final product post-updates ressembles an Enhanced Edition ala The Witcher.
I really liked this game despite its flaws so I'm excited about what they'll do with it, but I won't be touching it again in the meantime. Hopefully some of what's written up there ends up being true!
Not that I'm complaining if the final product post-updates ressembles an Enhanced Edition ala The Witcher.
I really liked this game despite its flaws so I'm excited about what they'll do with it, but I won't be touching it again in the meantime. Hopefully some of what's written up there ends up being true!
RecRoulette
Member
I thought Comrades was you playing as the main characters, not the character creation stuff. Then again it's been forever since that announcment.
Out-of-bound glitch exploring Tenebrae:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzVEiLT3l4
Also apparently they changed the intro CG's music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzVEiLT3l4
Also apparently they changed the intro CG's music:
"Edit: Just checked the intro.
They did indeed change the music. It's complete silence up until Regis tells him to be ready to leave home behind, then a very uplifting version of Dawn starts playing, ending on a majestic note with a hint of the FF prelude theme playing.
The original intro had more of a... sad, dramatic and final feel to it, forewarning that a dark tale is coming up, whereas this one is more... well up lifting and setting the pace for a "majestic and fantastical" journey.
This tells me that the team are going over the entire game, from start to finish, and trying to improve upon whatever they can, regardless of whether it's a necessary or unnecessary improvement (this is where opinion's come in I'd say).
Anyway, all I'm hoping for is that they notice how some scenes end too abruptly and/or transition roughly and haphazardly onto the next. Storytelling experience needs to be smooth and finely paced imo. For me, I think this is a top priority in improving the game."
Source: http://www.mognetcentral.com/threads/ffxv-discussion-thread-no-spoilers.6483/page-56#post-51442
They did indeed change the music. It's complete silence up until Regis tells him to be ready to leave home behind, then a very uplifting version of Dawn starts playing, ending on a majestic note with a hint of the FF prelude theme playing.
The original intro had more of a... sad, dramatic and final feel to it, forewarning that a dark tale is coming up, whereas this one is more... well up lifting and setting the pace for a "majestic and fantastical" journey.
This tells me that the team are going over the entire game, from start to finish, and trying to improve upon whatever they can, regardless of whether it's a necessary or unnecessary improvement (this is where opinion's come in I'd say).
Anyway, all I'm hoping for is that they notice how some scenes end too abruptly and/or transition roughly and haphazardly onto the next. Storytelling experience needs to be smooth and finely paced imo. For me, I think this is a top priority in improving the game."
Source: http://www.mognetcentral.com/threads/ffxv-discussion-thread-no-spoilers.6483/page-56#post-51442
That Dude John
Member
Is this Current timed quest difficult given the bounty? I don't want to trek over there unprepared.
Yeah, saw it today. A modder extracted several models from the game including Noctis with his original Versus leather outfit:
Also nude Gentiana [NSFW]:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5KaVAhUoAEiMNv.jpg
Source: https://twitter.com/DickWhitehouse/status/834954590533513217
Solid Sora
Member
Changing the opening CG was a terrible choice. They sucked out all of the subtle tragic tone of the scene :/
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