I won a million in the lottery, but it doesn't matter because Bill Gates is a billionaire
When the question is if Bill Gates should be worried about people winning the lottery, then yea that seems like the an appropriate response.
I won a million in the lottery, but it doesn't matter because Bill Gates is a billionaire
We seem to get these threads every month now.
My response is still the same in that, Japan actually has a lot to prove.
But i've never heard of any of those games, and they barely sell, so who cares?
no but seriously i think everyone should be happy about diversity in the industry especially considering how homogenized and safe western AAA gaming is becoming/has become
Both honestly.
FFXV is the fastest selling entry in the series. Nioh and Yakuza 0 also have been selling well.
There is not really a recent japanese game resurgence like in the old days, because we havent seen a new Castlevania, Megaman, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy Tactics, Suikoden, Zone of the Enders, ... in years.
starting huhI'm starting to think GAF has a very skewed look on... Japanese games
Homogenized? Safe? I hope your talking about in terms of gameplay cuz we've been having a variety of diverse characters in AAA games.
starting huh
I was being nice. The majority of GAF members have no perspective on the actual financial side of the industry. Just trying to be polite about it.
For Honor is going to outsell Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Tales of Bersaria, and Nier Automata all combined. Easily.
For Honor is going to outsell Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Tales of Bersaria, and Nier Automata all combined. Easily.
I mean going by GAF you'd think Gravity Rush has a huge following and PS should adopt Kat as a mascot... :|I'm starting to think GAF has a very skewed look on how these Japanese games are selling compared to their Western Counterparts.
Like For Honor and Ghost Recon are going to substantially outsell any of the Q1 Japanese releases other than Zelda. Horizon as well. Western games are far far larger than Japanese based ones.
I was being nice. The majority of GAF members have no perspective on the actual financial side of the industry. Just trying to be polite about it.
For Honor is going to outsell Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Tales of Bersaria, and Nier Automata all combined. Easily.
I won a million in the lottery, but it doesn't matter because Bill Gates is a billionaire
When you say GAF have no perspective, i think the OP is talking about the reception to the quality of Japanese titles making western devs take notice, not whether or not they think their DLC schemes are going to stop working
This is true, but it doesn't mean that For Honor is a better game than all of those combined.
Also, For Honor probably had a marketing budget many times bigger than all of those titles combined too.
I don't like comparing sales because not every game gets a big marketing budget and those vary a lot even by region. I have no doubt that For Honor sold well, deservedly so, but I would't be surprised if most units were sold in the Americas (where, I think, marketing was stronger) and much fewer units in Asia.
Quality wise, I am just happy that we are getting bombarded with great games.
going by the # of posts and unique posters in gravity rush threadsI mean going by GAF you'd think Gravity Rush has a huge following and PS should adopt Kat as a mascot... :|
hohohohohoWhy are you guys talking about "sales" when number of GAF threads is a vastly more important indicator?
I was being nice. The majority of GAF members have no perspective on the actual financial side of the industry. Just trying to be polite about it.
For Honor is going to outsell Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Tales of Bersaria, and Nier Automata all combined. Easily.
The answer to all of this is no. The only thing that actually matters in this industry is sales / profit margins. Your games don't get published unless they make money. Western games make much, much, much more money than Japanese ones (in general).
Nier and Yakuza can be as amazing as they want to be. They are "amazing" to a small portion of people who purchase consoles.
Your average Joe would rather play For Honor and Ghost Recon, and buy DLC for them then to play Tales of Bersaria or Gravity Rush. Reviews from the dedicated gaming media has no impact on that
They should to an extent, the reason i like nier more than horizon (even though horizon was great) is because nier feels unique in its structure, music, and underlying themes. As wel as its gameplay. Horizon is very good but it feels like its adherent to some very over done western open world tropes
But you're missing something. Those games do make money. Yakuza is an annualized franchise that makes bank for Sega. It hasn't ever done well in the west, but it's huge in Asia where it's legitimately one of the very biggest console franchises.
You don't need to be making more money than the biggest Ubisoft game to be making money to fund more games.
That "uniqueness" only appeal to a niche audience however, that's the thing. When you are an enthusiast who play a lot of games and genre, you tend to appreciate something that deviate from the norm.
For the mass market, Nier is just a silly looking game with ridiculous character design that's not very appealing. Thus Ghost Recon wildlands and For Honor will curbstomp Nier in term of sales easily (and their budget are set accordingly so).
The answer to all of this is no. The only thing that actually matters in this industry is sales / profit margins. Your games don't get published unless they make money. Western games make much, much, much more money than Japanese ones (in general).
Nier and Yakuza can be as amazing as they want to be. They are "amazing" to a small portion of people who purchase consoles.
Your average Joe would rather play For Honor and Ghost Recon, and buy DLC for them then to play Tales of Bersaria or Gravity Rush. Reviews from the dedicated gaming media has no impact on that
No I meant the perception of how popular some people think Gravity Rush is.going by the # of posts and unique posters in gravity rush threads
that wouldn't even be true as a joke
The bolded is getting less and less true as this gen goes on, Western games have been getting less realistic, just looking at some examples of the most popular western games in this quarterNo, because the games are usually very different. Japanese games usually go with a lot of style and western games tend to go for more realism or shooters. Unless you have some Japanese dev trying to outdo Call of duty, assassin's creed, or far cry i just don't see the big deal. Even racing games don't have to worry since gt comes out maybe twice every console gen if were lucky, considering were a little over halfway through this gen updating gt sport is probably all they can do for the ps4.
Lol this.I mean going by GAF you'd think Gravity Rush has a huge following and PS should adopt Kat as a mascot... :|
That's harsh but it is true.
I guess that's just why western gaming has been becoming more stale. People will buy whatever is out there if its marketed so the pubs who are huge and bloated generally feel no need to do anything different than what they do.
I know for a lot of people they absolutely love that, but it never jived for me completely, even in the best years of the 7th gen for AAA western gaming. There was always something missing from the picture and as Japanese games become more prominent in quality on console again it tells me what that something was
Lol this.
Dead by Daylight a game that had a 1 page OT made more money I'm sure than both Gravuty Rush games combined. At least most certainly 2.
And I don't think I've ever seen a Minecraft OT on here.
That's harsh but it is true.
I guess that's just why western gaming has been becoming more stale. People will buy whatever is out there if its marketed so the pubs who are huge and bloated generally feel no need to do anything different than what they do.
I know for a lot of people they absolutely love that, but it never jived for me completely, even in the best years of the 7th gen for AAA western gaming. There was always something missing from the picture and as Japanese games become more prominent in quality on console again it tells me what that something was