Calm Mind
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You should update your thread to reflect the now reported sum of $28B by Apple and Amazon.
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You should update your thread to reflect the now reported sum of $28B by Apple and Amazon.
Isn't the TLG the only game that came really late. All the other games people cry about are 3rd party games. Plus there was a thread showing Sony actually on average has a pretty quick turnaround between announcement and release of games debuting at conferences.
I've updated the OP for it putting in that quote.
Gran Turismo also seems to take it's time.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Heck, Capcom revealed MH4 less than a week after the 3G announcement. Going by history, a Dragon's Dogma remaster and a Switch port of the most recent 3DS MH will have little to no effect on the timing of a new mainline MH announcement.
I wonder if I'll end up being right or if they'll just continue on to the next gen. Will the frequent release hurt it, or will it still clear 12+ million ww easily?
excited about Pokken though.
Jon Carter
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Unless they announce a separate 3rd version for Switch, Eurogamer was wrong on the whole thing as they said there would only be one version instead of two and it would be exclusive to the Switch.
thestopsign
Member
I think Nintendo made one right move and one wrong one there. Pokken DX is a good title for the fall and should benefit from the Switch hardware and popularity a lot so that makes sense.
They will hurt the mainline Pokémon games by releasing Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon on just 3DS though. I think combined they will be the worst selling entries since maybe Crystal. TPC will make a quick buck off of the reuse of assets and quick turnaround, but it might hurt the franchise further down the line from fatigue. Hopefully the eventual Switch title will be full fledged now.
They will hurt the mainline Pokémon games by releasing Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon on just 3DS though. I think combined they will be the worst selling entries since maybe Crystal. TPC will make a quick buck off of the reuse of assets and quick turnaround, but it might hurt the franchise further down the line from fatigue. Hopefully the eventual Switch title will be full fledged now.
So Chris, how is that "no more big games from Nintendo for 3DS" going? (I know, GameFreak is not Nintendo 
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I said that 3DS still has some power left sales wise (at least in Japan) so it's not dead at all. And even being portable, Switch is still a home console for Nintendo for better or worse. We'll see if this view still stands on 2018 but for now is Switch AND 3DS to ride 2017 HW wise.
).I said that 3DS still has some power left sales wise (at least in Japan) so it's not dead at all. And even being portable, Switch is still a home console for Nintendo for better or worse. We'll see if this view still stands on 2018 but for now is Switch AND 3DS to ride 2017 HW wise.
Lol and to think some "experts" thought that no more big games are going to come to 3ds this year and everything will be on switch. Looks like Nintendo is serious about continuing support for the platform through next year when most likely they will announce a handheld only variant of the switch.
thestopsign
Member
You can kind of look at it like Black and White 2. Except they used Ultra instead of the "2".
so basically they just pulled a Capcom
it's an alternative story of Sun and Moon( Pokemon If)
I think the majority of Pokemon's audience will still have a 3DS.
It's not clear though the extent to which this is a full sequel like B2/W2. And then also the issue of no Switch BC, as xequalsy said.
As to the question of whether Switch owners still have their 3DS, no doubt most do, but I think they could be less eager en masse to go back to them vs. have the game on Switch.
Yeah, I meant that I don't see a hypothetical Pokemon Stars for Switch now, since they've never done both a sequel (like for B2W2) and a third version.
Well you never know what they'll announce at E3 I guess.
Not exactly. 2 = Sequel, Ultra = Remix.
maybe no pokemon game in 2018 then to give breathing space
thestopsign
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I agree, I'm just not sure if as many will go for this version.
test_account
XP-39C²
The stars were not aligning. Cool to see a Pokken port though.
Skullwaker
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Yeah, I had a feeling TPC wouldn't abandon the 3DS ship just yet. I think the potential low sales (relative to the rest of the series) of Ultra Sun/Moon could give them a reality check though. Or they already have something like Diamond/Pearl remakes in the works for Switch, and Ultra S/M is just buying them time.
Good to see a Pokken port though. It's a nice addition to the lineup.
Good to see a Pokken port though. It's a nice addition to the lineup.
Sun and Moon hit 15-16 million on 3DS.
Switch is currently having a very dire stock problem WW. We can see why US and UM hit 3DS there.
And considering how Pokemon is currently is doing really well in the mind of the mass. It will certainly did really well for sure.^^ Beating Crystal should not be difficult.
test_account
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I think the games were planned for 3DS before the Switch launched.
Sun and Moon did that on the back of Pokémon GO. The ultra games won't have that benefit.
You're right but man, reading the tone of your response you seem... kind of hurt? Everyone can make mistakes and be wrong sometimes, don't need to be that sarcastic to make your point ;D
If you really think that the new Pokemon games are on 3DS and not on Switch due to the userbase then you don't know anything
As I said in the announcement thread maybe one day a book about GameFreak will be written... and that day will be glorious I tell you hahaha
So Chris, how is that "no more big games from Nintendo for 3DS" going? (I know, GameFreak is not Nintendo
I said that 3DS still has some power left sales wise (at least in Japan) so it's not dead at all. And even being portable, Switch is still a home console for Nintendo for better or worse. We'll see if this view still stands on 2018 but for now is Switch AND 3DS to ride 2017 HW wise.
I didn't expect 3DS only getting a new version just 1 year after S/M though.
Pokemon GO is still strong till now. If Poke Company can push a huge update for GO on the same time UM and US launch, it will still get the same push effect if not a bit less.
I don't think what u said contradict with what i said though.
If you really think that the new Pokemon games are on 3DS and not on Switch due to the userbase then you don't know anything
As I said in the announcement thread maybe one day a book about GameFreak will be written... and that day will be glorious I tell you hahaha
Lol. So u wanted to said that the reason why they put on 3DS is not for muney but some other reason? GF had shown that they cared more about Userbase since the old times so i am not shocked that this also come to 3DS first.^^
that would have consolidated the hybrid concept in the mind of the masses, and I think that actual Switch owners would still be pretty happy about a bigger screen/higher rez port
so far we are still waiting for an actual, REAL, sign of Switch being what it should be: a unique hybrid console, a unique purchase to substitute the double purchase of a Wii U + 3DS.
Plus, the lack of significant third party games means that their holiday season will commercially baed on one unique game (Mario), as usual.
So nothing has changed compared to the past despite having created a compromises-based hardware
I think you wanted to quote this one, just because you like to do this with other people.
theprodigy
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I'm sure I don't quote many other except special occasions but keep trying.
test_account
XP-39C²
To me, it sounded like you ment that the games were released on 3DS because of the Switch stock problems. Wasnt that what you ment?
I mean, Switch having stock problem is going to add to the small userbase problem so, it is not shocking at all to see UM and US to stuck on 3DS(And also of course, GF can reuse all its assets so why not lol.^^)
???Whats the relation between Pokemon and Mario though?
Well if we're going to afford pages worth of threads to 4chan leaks for MH, we could also probably entertain that 4chan "leaked" the 3DS games (and that they are not sequels) in April.
https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/872102747385978884
... /shrug
Yep, that's the only surprising thing here and I think it'll affect its sales negatively. Anyway it's still early to predict its sales but we'll see when we get more details about the titles.
Yes, basically it's for money... but there's more than that
Another petty answer hahaha And you know that he can still be right, right?
well, technically Nintendo still dropped a nuclear announcement
edit: also that pokemon direct thread got locked
It's pretty standard to lock such a thread after the event's over.
Re: Pokemon. Two thoughts
1- I don't think Pokemon was really needed this year for Switch. It will do just fine (especially Japan)
2- I do think it was needed in the sense of broadcasting to the 3DS userbase that the transition to Switch is happening.
1- I don't think Pokemon was really needed this year for Switch. It will do just fine (especially Japan)
2- I do think it was needed in the sense of broadcasting to the 3DS userbase that the transition to Switch is happening.
Not incompetent, just lazy (and I hate to throw the "lazy devs" term but they could fit in the definition). But it's not the only factor as I also stated here several (not a "couple") years ago
Anyway, let's end the topic because it goes to nowhere from here. What are your first sales expectations for the title in Japan? Less than B&W2 and the remakes? or more?
I have yet to see Nintendo promoting that kind of transition (not saying it's not going to happen but as I said, for Nintendo the Switch is a home console even if half of GAF thinks it's the new handheld and the 3DS's substitute).
Gotdatmoney
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They don't have to broadcast that games are moving to the Switch. They just announce them and that is pretty much it.
Not incompetent, just lazy (and I hate to throw the "lazy devs" term but they could fit in the definition). But it's not the only factor as I also stated here several (not a "couple") years ago
Anyway, let's end the topic because it goes to nowhere from here. What are your first sales expectations for the title in Japan? Less than B&W2 and the remakes? or more?
I can't remember any number for B&W2 nor any remake lol. But i guess, it probably should beat Alpha Sapphire number which hit 2.4 million by a bit. 2.7 million is going to be my guess i think.