If one of the most hardcore gaming message board site is having trouble swallowing a $500 console, then who the fuck, may I ask, is this console aimed at?
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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
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If one of the most hardcore gaming message board site is having trouble swallowing a $500 console, then who the fuck, may I ask, is this console aimed at?
AyraSutoraifu
Member
Um, no there isn't.
He said it because he had a reliable source (supposedly) and it is news and he is a journalist.
The thing is, no matter hwo you do it, the tech on Scorpio can't be sold at less than 499. A gtx 1080 (same TF as scorpio) is at least $500.
Nameless
Member
Christ
wumster3000
Member
Why are you dumb for buying something that you want at the MSRP? I'm buying it because I think what's inside the box is worth it. I wouldn't call myself dumb for it either. Some people have their price point limit regardless of the hardware, and I can respect that. Some people will buy it regardless because they want it based on numerous reasons that suits them. You are not dumb for buying it, if you have the money that you worked hard for.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
No project in the wording and that Scorpio font is new no?
It's for Xbox whales.
There was an interview like half a year ago where Spencer said that they wanted to cater to the diehard fans. The ones spending thousands of dollars.
No, then it begins!
Fredrik
Member
Probably disappointed at the price just like the rest of us. I like him. He's no lap dog. Hopefully we'll see headlines with a negative spin in mainstream media too if the price stands tonight. We know the fans will buy it anyway, and hype it up like crazy, question is if the negativity among the rest of us could push MS to drop the price. They've made changes before. It's surprising to see that they've learned so little from past mistake though. If/When Sony drops the price on Pro to $299, how are MS ever going to be able to convince someone to buy a Scorpio??
Thing is Scorpio is entirely directed to the hardcore market. It's the whole point of the console existing in the first place. Those outside the hardcore market will get the S whether or not Scorpio is $499 or $399.
No matter what, Scorpio is not the system that will help MS catch up.
BarringGaffner
Member
Pricing is more complex than sum of parts.
Flow-Walker
Banned
4K UHD drives are completely different than standard Blu-Ray drives. UHD discs go up to 100GB triple layer. Normal BD drives can not read those.
cloudburst
Banned
As someone who bought an Xbox One S last year, i will never give MS a single dollar after enduring its horrible UI and frequent controller disconnections. Not sure what happened to MS after the 360.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
RedAssedApe
Banned
Kabuki Waq
Member
Wtf. Geoff is good people. He can't control if MS changes the price. He is just letting us know what he heard.
Simply Sami
Member
People asking for Geoff to be banned lol.
Seriously some people need to get a grip of themselves.
Seriously some people need to get a grip of themselves.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Hahaha classic
We are never goign to get a FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS moment again are we?
BossDarkseid
Member
I feel it'll be a lot of cool stuff from existing IPs, and probably one or two new things that make people excited, but considering how the games have to run on the lower end models I can't imagine seeing anything that'll make me go "Hoooolly sshiiiit". I mean there'll be things there fidelity wise, I still remember the Killzone reveal for the PS4 and I was like "So when are these graphics ingame? Wait-what!?" so that'll be cool.
Bar being told about Forza 7 being 4k/60fps etc I think a lot of what we will see will not look that...new? It'll be fun and exciting but nothing that sets the world on fire.
I just hope they talk about Play Anywhere a bit because even though I bought an XB1 for MCC, Play Anywhere is great for me.
Scousefury
Member
Geoff ain't getting paid to leak. He got info maybe it pissed him off so he leaked it. MS would not shadow box with the price in the rehearsals because if it leaks they lose control of he narrative just like they have now, now if it changes it looks like they panicked and changed it. Then its down to who you believe.
McMoneyman
Member
JT upset by the Scorpio news too?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Even WITH the Scorpio at $399, it was unlikely to take much, if anything, from Sony. That ship sailed LONG ago!
JetBlackPanda
Member
Where is this from?
Twitter is going off
He's giving away the name. 2 words, 5 syllables. Xbox Scorpio
We're both dummies. I'm sorry, but I have spoken.
IcyRhythms
Member
any maybe it is
Either this is a publicity stunt or very premature. We will know the price for sure in just two or three hours. Geoff Keighley coming out so bluntly with the price before Microsoft sounds like a way to get attention. It'll just hurt his credibility if he's wrong. Though, he's had exclusives before.
The Scorpio isn't significantly more powerful than the PS4 Pro. It's ~6 TF vs 4.2 TF. That's relatively about the same difference as the vanilla PS4 and Bone. The CPUs are nearly the same, meaning you aren't even going to see a lot of framerate improvements. The only actual difference will be Scorpio will probably have more games running at native 4K whereas the the same games on the Pro will use checkerboard 4K.
llien
Member
But calling it Xbox One Scorpio also presents problems
Parents might confuse it with Xbox One S and in general it'll be a seen as just another Xbox, the special nature of it might be lost with the One in it's name.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Damn this thread is moving fast.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Lmao yeah, poor fucking bazillion dollar companies.
Polygon seem right for once.
$499 dooms this to being the niche choice for fans of a system already selling poorly compared to the competition.
If it's a premium device only aimed at a small subset of the public , why the fuck bother ? MS need a system that will appeal to the masses at a price people want to pay to bring people back into the fold, but instead go for a "premium" price point and expect...........what exactly ? That appealing to the nerdiest of nerds somehow that'll translate into yuuuuge sales ?
$499 dooms this to being the niche choice for fans of a system already selling poorly compared to the competition.
If it's a premium device only aimed at a small subset of the public , why the fuck bother ? MS need a system that will appeal to the masses at a price people want to pay to bring people back into the fold, but instead go for a "premium" price point and expect...........what exactly ? That appealing to the nerdiest of nerds somehow that'll translate into yuuuuge sales ?
polyh3dron
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OrbitalBeard
Member
Sorry guys, been out for a couple hours.
Has anyone else corroborated Geoff's statement?
Has anyone else corroborated Geoff's statement?
Simply Sami
Member
With the warchest MS has got?
And?
You know MS have to answer to shareholders? Phil isn't the only one who makes the pricing decisions.
And it comes with much more.
The point is , it's stupid to price same as Pro. That's no business. 449 maybe.
Complicated
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I don't think GAF is the best bellweather for this particular situation. I haven't seen people going crazy like this on other message boards.
Katana_Strikes
Member
But that's not exactly what MS wants people to believe.
Are you counting the Windows license in that price? Also case, input devices? (I'm excluding monitor). Seriously, post a PCpartspicker build or something if it's doable, I'd probably get such a PC.
Minus the input devices a system with an i3 an RX 470 and everything else you'd need (case, PSU, Windows license) is $600 but I'm not sure where that stacks against the PS4 Pro.
That's not what people thought in the other thread.