Better to raise a fuss and get addressed later on than to remain muted and let them fuck over portable players because they thought the market didn't want it. I'm sure they're getting the fan feedback they need
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GameSpot: Capcom Not Bringing Switch Ver. of Monster Hunter XX to US (at this time)
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Better to raise a fuss and get addressed later on than to remain muted and let them fuck over portable players because they thought the market didn't want it. I'm sure they're getting the fan feedback they need
Damage control or not - the thing is, where and when would a Western version of MH:XX even fit in at this point?
It's clear that they are focusing on MH World right now and are using the E3 as a backdrop. MH:XX promotion completely took a backseat for reasons we only can speculate about (though I don't intend to).
Going into E3, I only had one wish really, getting the localization confirmation for MHXX, which I thought would be a formality given that 80+% of MHXX is already translated in MH Generations. I wasn't expecting a MH5 for XB1/PS4/PC and as early as 2018 at that. If you think about it, a proper Western release of MH:XX would likely require the release of two versions, 3DS and Switch. The 3DS's install base alone would make this a no-brainer (apart from, you know, not angering your loyal fans...) and then there's the interconnection of MHXX's 3DS and Switch versions. So they'd have to fit it basically two Monster Hunter games sometime between now and MH World. Given that most people think that the translation should have been done by now, and considering the odd Friday release date, you'd have expected a worldwide release of both versions in August alongside the JP version. But this is like in two and a half months. Assuming a March release of MH Worlds, this would have been a six month gap between the releases (don't know whether that's considered too short), and all on different platforms anyway. Promotion of those version should have started by now, and E3 would have been the place to do it, though. I cannot imagine them releasing MH:XX after MH Worlds in the West, say at the End of 2018, six to nine months after World. It's ancient by then and in comparison with World will look the part, too. This one has to come out before World, I think.
I feel if Nintendo doesn't reveal it during Treehouse later today or Capcom during their stream (unlikely, because it's focused on MH World), then the localization ship will have sailed. And even if announce the Switch version, people still will be salty if they are not getting it for 3DS as well.
It's clear that they are focusing on MH World right now and are using the E3 as a backdrop. MH:XX promotion completely took a backseat for reasons we only can speculate about (though I don't intend to).
Going into E3, I only had one wish really, getting the localization confirmation for MHXX, which I thought would be a formality given that 80+% of MHXX is already translated in MH Generations. I wasn't expecting a MH5 for XB1/PS4/PC and as early as 2018 at that. If you think about it, a proper Western release of MH:XX would likely require the release of two versions, 3DS and Switch. The 3DS's install base alone would make this a no-brainer (apart from, you know, not angering your loyal fans...) and then there's the interconnection of MHXX's 3DS and Switch versions. So they'd have to fit it basically two Monster Hunter games sometime between now and MH World. Given that most people think that the translation should have been done by now, and considering the odd Friday release date, you'd have expected a worldwide release of both versions in August alongside the JP version. But this is like in two and a half months. Assuming a March release of MH Worlds, this would have been a six month gap between the releases (don't know whether that's considered too short), and all on different platforms anyway. Promotion of those version should have started by now, and E3 would have been the place to do it, though. I cannot imagine them releasing MH:XX after MH Worlds in the West, say at the End of 2018, six to nine months after World. It's ancient by then and in comparison with World will look the part, too. This one has to come out before World, I think.
I feel if Nintendo doesn't reveal it during Treehouse later today or Capcom during their stream (unlikely, because it's focused on MH World), then the localization ship will have sailed. And even if announce the Switch version, people still will be salty if they are not getting it for 3DS as well.
Day and date with the Japanese version in August is the PERFECT time to release it in the west while also distancing itself from MHW while building hype for the brand. Aka, Capcom messed up big time.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
So will my sale of Monster Hunter World.
The Hermit
Member
Great read, but I am not as hopeful as you.
It's mindboggling dumb, but I don't think we will see a Switch version of Monster Hunter any time soon in the West.
I am usually against boycott, and even was looking forward the PC version, but I think is the only way to make Capcom realize what a dumb decision that was.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
I'm making things up?
Okay so which Monster Hunter sold well in the West without Nintendo's help?
Please do take your time answering.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Yup. I'm not gonna continually shell out money for these games anymore when Capcom is just gonna selectively decide what I want. Until this game is localized I'm out. $90 games in Canada. This is not how you convince me to buy your game.
RichiRamjag
Member
That's my problem. They bounce all the fuck around with their franchises from console to console, built up a fanbase on 3DS, then proceeds to act as if they don't exist to promote World. I have no issue with world being out there and limited to ps4/Xbox, but damn, now you're going to toy around with XX in the west because of it? Forget that, I won't support them either.
I'm getting older lol, I can't be waiting 1-2 years for capcom to release readily made games in the west.
Tacorona72
Member
It sucks because I to want to support the franchise since it's one of my favorites of all time, but I don't support the way Capcom just alienated people who wanted XX. It's almost unforgivable. Is it really so hard to have both?
Their official statement is worthless. It's just stating an obvious fact that everyone already knows and does nothing but try to direct negative attention away even though it's pretty obvious that they don't aren't going to do anything about XX besides hope that everyone forgets it exists. Gotta focus all the attention on MH World!!
As far as I'm concerned Capcom doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt right now. Saying that MHXX might get localized late 2018 or that they will put more game on the Switch down the line isn't relevant to the situation here.
What has Capcom done for the Switch up until now? A shitty cashgrab port that nobody asked for (heavily promoted by Nintendo I might add), and another port that isn't coming out in the west anytime soon. Fucking Konami did more than that. To me there's two possible reasons for that: either Capcom and Nintendo somehow had a falling out (which I don't believe at all), or they thought a year ago or so that Nintendo was slowly dying with no future prospect, and decided to jump ship as soon as possible, completely misreading the Switch situation in the process.
Either way, I have about zero sympathy for them at the moment, and I'm not about to make excuses for them when they can't even deliver a PR statement that isn't antagonistic as hell.
What has Capcom done for the Switch up until now? A shitty cashgrab port that nobody asked for (heavily promoted by Nintendo I might add), and another port that isn't coming out in the west anytime soon. Fucking Konami did more than that. To me there's two possible reasons for that: either Capcom and Nintendo somehow had a falling out (which I don't believe at all), or they thought a year ago or so that Nintendo was slowly dying with no future prospect, and decided to jump ship as soon as possible, completely misreading the Switch situation in the process.
Either way, I have about zero sympathy for them at the moment, and I'm not about to make excuses for them when they can't even deliver a PR statement that isn't antagonistic as hell.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I was saying earlier how I dont want them to split MH into portable and console just for this reason. I dont wanna jump the fuck around system to system worrying if we are getting X game or Y expansion years after the fact. The Switch can get most games from X1 and PS4. Just make your shit multiplat on everything and release all the games. Or be clear we are only getting Ultimate versions.
They are so fucking bad with doing this across all their franchises. I have backlogs of several dozens of games. I am not dealing with this anymore. Just localize your games or I will just go else where.
It really would be weird to not get XX, it being a "celebration" of the series and all. Even if they really move the series to other platforms, a HD G-Rank Best-of-compilation (it even has transmogrification, for crying out loud) with 3DS/Switch crossplay would have been the perfect parting gift. Instead: a middle finger. Ok, then.
El Pescado
Member
I mean, honestly, if MHXX wasn't already like 90% translated I'd understand why they were hesitating, but the bulk of the localization is already done in Monster Hunter Generations.
As I've said before in this thread, if MHXX had come here I'd have bought MHW and given it a shot. As it stands now I won't be buying any more Capcom titles period unless we get MHXX for Switch.
As I've said before in this thread, if MHXX had come here I'd have bought MHW and given it a shot. As it stands now I won't be buying any more Capcom titles period unless we get MHXX for Switch.
Gotdatmoney
Member
The games aren't free. So I suggest you spend your money how you want and those of us who are fed up with Capcom can use ours how we want. If World 2 doesn't come out then Capcom can blame Capcom. But since I aint buying World 1 it wont matter to me if World 2 doesnt come out will it?
NintendosBooger
Member
Worlds 2? MH:W will be it, with a bunch of expansion packs, DLCs, and other content to keep the first game afloat for a long time.
entremet
Member
Japanese developers have been really bad at this. Look at SE and Kingdom Hearts. Basically it stems from the Gen 7 (PS360WiiDSPSP) throwing a monkey wrench in Japanese developers. The console market contracted there for traditional Sony 3rd parties. Problem is PS4 didn't bring the console market back there. It's a structural change.
If worlds 2 will not happen, the brand will come back to the "origins".
Then i don't think someone will lose, it's just a matter of """"Likes"""" and tastes
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
Nobody is obliged to buy MHW like Capcom isn't obliged to bring over MHXX . What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
RichiRamjag
Member
People keep saying this, but using a translation guide to play a game isn't what many of us want to do with our already limited gaming time. It's not an acceptable alternative in any way.
I'll never support something for such reasons. If they want their franchise to succeed, then they should manage it better rather than build up goodwill, just to throw it out so they can push another game. If you're cool with that, I respect it, it's your cash, but personally, it's my not responsibility to buy a game that's exclusive to a system that I don't want to play it on in the hopes of getting another sequel that may not be on the platform I prefer.
Its not like we're even asking for worlds, we just want the already made and mostly translated version of the game to release in the west, but capcom would rather not talk about it so they promote worlds. F that.
Worlds 2 not coming would be Capcom's problem, not ours. I'm sure World will do fine, but I'm not fully sold because there aren't a lot of details (or a definitive PC release date). I just want the title I was already sold on. Shame Capcom currently doesn't want my money.
entremet
Member
Posters can be too hardcore here, man. I know they're trying to help, it's not that realistic.
This is the only saving grace, but even then there are some problems. Anyone without a translation guide open at all times is going to have it rough considering it's quite a menu-heavy game, and good luck convincing anyone you know to go through the hoops of playing an imported version with you.
I think World is looking pretty good and will likely buy it myself, but I can't fault anyone else for wanting to skip it. If Capcom's not going to give people what they really want, why should they settle for another product that they weren't as interested in? It's not like World is going to sell gangbusters on its own anyway considering this is a series that has always thrived on portables, so the fact that they think screwing over previous fans is a good way to grow a new fanbase is really puzzling.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
I agree with you on all said.
Especially since Monster Hunter is one of those games one tends to play with a Wiki on the side, to check drop rates or weapon trees. It's gonna be a nightmare comparing Japanese symbols to find out which monster drops a part you need. Ugh. I don't have time for this kind of shit. Not anymore.
Also, online lag is a consideration, as well as it being harder to come across other English-speaking players when cruising through random rooms.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Lotta people here trying to sell us on theoretical games thay even if they existed are years out.
MH:World 2.
MH:Switch.
Do yall have inside info?
MH:World 2.
MH:Switch.
Do yall have inside info?
SporeCrawler
Member
yeah a company is not obliged to make money. sure.
MH Switch exists. its called MH XX and its what this thread is about.
For real. I just want what is tangibly available, so the prospects of "wait for Capcom's next MH Switch title" means little because I know nothing about said game. I certainly did want XX though
Gotdatmoney
Member
Looking at the shape Capcom is in. . . apparently not.
Unlike Japanese players, you won't be able to transfer a Generations save over though, and having to repeat the hundreds of hours of time I put into the lower ranks doesn't sound appealing when I'd want to jump straight into G-rank.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
That poster with the W101 avatar might have inside.
I hope that they are just waiting to make a more low-key announcement so they don't distract from World, but there is a sense that there is some kind of skullduggery going on. I don't see why Capcom wouldn't bring XX to US/EU aside from a corporate agreement with Sony.
Have you missed the official MH:XX Switch Ver announcement (JP only) back in May or do you refer to another, theoretical Switch version?
RichiRamjag
Member
I just hate that mindset. I remember when there was an AMA on Reddit where the devs of fat princess adventures were saying we need to support that game if we want classic fat princess. Told them to pack that mentality up too. I'll never support something I don't want in the hopes of getting something I do.
It doesn't exist in the west which is the problem. Now people are implying that if we want to see more monster hunter games in the future on either platform, we need to support ones we may not want to buy.
I see can why: their usual incompetence with their popular IPs.
I think he's referring to the latter
Gotdatmoney
Member
If he has something to announce then I'm all ears. Otherwise I dont really care.
I'd like to try the series again and would rather play this on Switch than World on PS4. Really weird that they're being so cagey about announcing it, particularly as it's not like World is exclusive to a console or anything that would explain why they'd have pressure not to bring XX over.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
SporeCrawler
Member
i dont know man. why is nintendo publishing stories and not XX thats whats baffling to me.
they could have picked up XX if there was no risk for capcom right? XX translation is already done too like many said here.
The onus shouldn't have to be on Nintendo, especially when they don't localize the majority of MH titles. Would be great if they could make it happen though.
Nintendo probably liked what they saw of Stories in terms of the appeal it has with the Pokémon crowd and took the opportunity to bring it over when Capcom was likely not that interested, and assumed that MHXX would continue like their previous arrangement: Capcom localizes and publishes in the US, Nintendo markets and takes on publishing in Europe.
I have no idea how well the show has been fairing on Crunchyroll, so there might have also been an element where Capcom not being big enough to handle a multimedia enterprise in the west and went to Nintendo for help, as they're the all-time kings as far as video games are concerned on the matter.
Kinda feels that way considering they seemed to well know the name of the PS4 game about a week in advance
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239245185&postcount=138
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239259903&postcount=339
Gotdatmoney
Member
Yup. People get it twisted. Just cause we are passionate fans it doesnt mean this is charity. If you don't give people what they want they have every right to say fuck you then. This isn't free. We are paying for this.
It's like when people say "buy third party tests on Nintendo platforms". How about no. How about make a product I actually fucking want if you expect me to pay for it.
I'm not buying Dead Space 3 in the hopes of more Dead Space. Make something I want now, then we can talk about the future.
These games are massive time sinks. I am not investing more money into the franchise when its a dice roll of what games we get. How is that dumb?
RichiRamjag
Member
It's about not supporting a company who you don't feel respects you as a fan and consumer. I get it, my principles aren't everyone's principles and I respect that. I'm not here to say that people who buy it are idiots or suckers or anything like that, but I ask that people respect that I may not like how capcom handles their IPs and would rather not support that. I'm not asking for anyone else to join me or judging those who don't.
SporeCrawler
Member
well they do localize stories
as some have pointed it out the currency of games for gamers is not so much money .. its time.
and MH is a game where many people have easily spend hundreds maybe thousands of hours on a version. many people expressing frustration here probably spent something like that on generations and just want the additional content of XX (I for one would love to try that whacky alchemist style). they will feel like their time and energy poured into the franchise crafting armor and weapons is now all gone to waste since the G rank is no longer accessible to them.
now capcom barges in and says: hey doodz no worries buy this new shiny version and spend another 1000 hours on it starting from scratch...
Anyway, seems too many people around know something..
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