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Married middle school teacher, 27, arrested for rape of an underage student

I don't understand why attractive women in their mid-late 20's so often sleep with young teenage students. In most of these cases that I've seen, the teacher shouldn't really have a problem finding hook-ups with other adults, so why the aversion to men her age? I'm sure there's some deep psychological impetus behind it, but it's still bizarre to me.

You're missing that she was married, so she didn't have any problem finding someone around her own age. She just has a sick attraction to underage boys, just like male pedos do to underaged girls. A lot of the males who engage in this kind of stuff aren't usually the slime ball looking guys you imagine either.
 
I don't understand why attractive women in their mid-late 20's so often sleep with young teenage students. In most of these cases that I've seen, the teacher shouldn't really have a problem finding hook-ups with other adults, so why the aversion to men her age? I'm sure there's some deep psychological impetus behind it, but it's still bizarre to me.


Yeah it's odd. All I can think of is that kids are maturing quicker (are they? I'm just guessing), so you have a 15-16 year old male with many adult-like features, and it's just another cute guy to a gal. Hard to prove that out I suppose, since we never know anything about the kids for obvious reasons. Are they all young football-captain studs, or are all range of types involved?

What I'm curious about is whether this is a recent upward trend, or another case of 'we never heard of it as much before because internet'
 

azyless

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Sodomy is defined as oral or anal? Really? I didn't know that, I always thought it just meant anal.
It initially was but then they discovered gay people had oral sex too (and straight people had anal sex) so they extended it to basically anything that wasn't "penis in vagina".
 
You're missing that she was married, so she didn't have any problem finding someone around her own age. She just has a sick attraction to underage boys, just like male pedos do to underaged girls. A lot of the males who engage in this kind of stuff aren't usually the slime ball looking guys you imagine either.

Nope, and they work as teachers as well.
 
Yeah it's odd. All I can think of is that kids are maturing quicker (are they? I'm just guessing), so you have a 15-16 year old male with many adult-like features, and it's just another cute guy to a gal.

What I'm curious about is whether this is a recent upward trend, or another case of 'we never heard of it as much before because internet'

I'm sure it happened pre-Internet
 

LProtag

Member
Just a reminder, since I'm hearing a lot of "why is this happening so often" and other such talk:

You don't hear about the 99.99% of teachers who don't sleep with their students.

I hate these people for giving my profession a bad name.
 

SDBurton

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Why are the teachers involved always good looking!? Like damn, this chick could probably get almost any dude she wanted. Why settle on a freaking under age teen!?

In her mindset, she probably found it to be exciting/dangerous to be with someone underage. Add the fact that he was a student of hers and that adds to it.
 

see5harp

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Jail isn't going to make a difference. Some people have twisted urges, and those eat away at them over time. It'd be better if we ease the stigma off mental health, and get these people therapy. Find a less society-damaging release for these urges.

That may be true. Maybe she will still be attracted to teenage boys when she gets out in 5 years. If you rape a minor that's what happens in this country though. The male teacher who ran off with his student, I doubt the parents were saying "wow we gotta get this guy treatment."
 

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Keri

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I don't understand why attractive women in their mid-late 20's so often sleep with young teenage students. In most of these cases that I've seen, the teacher shouldn't really have a problem finding hook-ups with other adults, so why the aversion to men her age? I'm sure there's some deep psychological impetus behind it, but it's still bizarre to me.

This isn't really applicable here, because she's 27 and the student was in middle school, but if it's a young teacher and a high schooler, the age difference isn't that great and I think it increases the risk of the teacher getting their lines blurred. I think they end up relating to their students and forgetting they're the adult now. If you're a young teacher whose been out of school yourself, for all of a second, you should not be placed to teach in a high school. Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty clear line that any decent adult should be able to understand, but if I was responsible for staffing I would just avoid pairing these age groups.
 

ZangBa

Member
Can't tell if this sort of thing is becoming more popular, or in this day and age it's just become easier to expose.
 

LProtag

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This isn't really applicable here, because she's 27 and the student was in middle school, but if it's a young teacher and a high schooler, the age difference isn't that great and I think it increases the risk of the teacher getting their lines blurred. I think they end up relating to their students and forgetting they're the adult now. If you're a young teacher whose been out of school yourself, for all of a second, you should not be placed to teach in a high school. Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty clear line that any decent adult should be able to understand, but if I was responsible for staffing I would just avoid pairing these age groups.

This statement is silly. I've been teaching high school since I was 24. It's incredibly easy to avoid sleeping with your students.
 

Rocketz

Member
Well my former best friend from high school got concurrent 15 year sentences for this shit with 2 different girls before he got caught. Marrried with a kid on the way too. Granted he crossed state lines so that made it worse.

It's crazy this stuff still happens.
 
Why are the teachers involved always good looking!? Like damn, this chick could probably get almost any dude she wanted. Why settle on a freaking under age teen!?

Because they get anything they want served on a silver platter, so they believe they can get away with this too.
 

Aske

Member
Poor kids.

The important thing to remember is that the issue isn't just about this woman having sex with underage boys: it's the exploitation of a child by an authority figure. Fantasies are usually just about fucking; but in real life, there's a level of mental abuse and resulting trauma that few people consider when "sexy female teacher fucks lucky male student" news stories pop up.
 

Bakercat

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jk, I hope she gets the same punishment as a male teacher would in the situation. Hopefully the kids get help.
 

Keri

Member
This statement is silly. I've been teaching high school since I was 24. It's incredibly easy to avoid sleeping with your students.

Obviously all young teachers aren't sleeping with their students, but I'd still avoid the issue, if I had control over it - just teach a younger age group for a while. Even without the risk of a sexual relationship, I'd imagine it's pretty hard to establish a clear teacher-student relationship, if the kids can tell you're barely older than they are.

I'm glad it worked out well for you, but it seems like a recipe for problems that can easily be avoided.
 

Lil Marco

Banned
Why are the teachers involved always good looking!? Like damn, this chick could probably get almost any dude she wanted. Why settle on a freaking under age teen!?

It's an ego / power trip thing. They do it to seek validation with themselves, and it's easy to do when every teenage boy in your class fantasizes about you so you're in this immense position of sexual power on top of the pre-existing academic authoritative position you have over them.

Sexual abuse in academic contexts has been going on for like, centuries.
 

WillyFive

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Odd that they added the "married" description to the article, as if the crime was not enough.

Can't tell if this sort of thing is becoming more popular, or in this day and age it's just become easier to expose.

Social media is a great tool for exposing crimes. Victims of past decades didn't have that luxury.
 

LProtag

Member
Obviously all young teachers aren't sleeping with their students, but I'd still avoid the issue, if I had control over it - just teach a younger age group for a while. Even without the risk of a sexual relationship, I'd imagine it's pretty hard to establish a clear teacher-student relationship, if the kids can tell you're barely older than they are.

I'm glad it worked out well for you, but it seems like a recipe for problems that can easily be avoided.

Certification is usually K-6 or 7-12, and I'd argue there's a large skill set difference between teaching middle school and high school. This isn't reasonable at all.
 

Cirion

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You're missing that she was married, so she didn't have any problem finding someone around her own age. She just has a sick attraction to underage boys, just like male pedos do to underaged girls. A lot of the males who engage in this kind of stuff aren't usually the slime ball looking guys you imagine either.

Doesn't matter how often people like you parrot wrong information, it's in the big majority of those "teacher fucks student" cases not pedophilia. And yes, it makes a significant difference on several levels, including the underlying psychology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

I guess the US justice system will throw a couple dozen prison years at her. Wouldn't happen in Germany, she would get convicted but surely not for rape. The main point here is the abuse of power and the position of authority she is in.

Like usual those threads seem to have some closeted MRA's who only pile on this cases to proof that women are just as bad. Those threads constantly popping up like this is big news that should have lots of discussion is questionable in general, and some of you should DEFINITELY think about why those threads have to rely to on links to sensationalist scum media like Fox and the Sun or even Daily Mail all the time. They love them some SHOCKING crime stories which then leads to lots of yelling after extreme punishment and general fear mongering about the state of society in the comment section.

Also lmao @ Sodomy. That is an actual legal term that still gets used in the US? Pure homophobia and bigotry.
 

Zaventem

Member
Is it female teachers are getting caught more in the spotlight or female teachers abusing tneir pupils more common than ever?
 

Johndoey

Banned
Ugh, disgusting abuse of authority.

This isn't really applicable here, because she's 27 and the student was in middle school, but if it's a young teacher and a high schooler, the age difference isn't that great and I think it increases the risk of the teacher getting their lines blurred. I think they end up relating to their students and forgetting they're the adult now. If you're a young teacher whose been out of school yourself, for all of a second, you should not be placed to teach in a high school. Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty clear line that any decent adult should be able to understand, but if I was responsible for staffing I would just avoid pairing these age groups.

I mean, no. The vast, vast majority of teachers around her age, no matter the setting, get along perfectly fine.
 
I don't understand why attractive women in their mid-late 20's so often sleep with young teenage students.

Because they enjoy the power dynamic. I mean sure, a good looking woman can sexually manipulate a grown man, but breaking in a sexually inexperienced boy probably makes that dynamic even more intense and exhilerating for the sort of women who enjoy that kind of thing.
 

DrSlek

Member
Sodomy is illegal there, or is it just because it was with a minor? Because why not just lump it in with rape? What's the difference?
 

pswii60

Member
This isn't really applicable here, because she's 27 and the student was in middle school, but if it's a young teacher and a high schooler, the age difference isn't that great and I think it increases the risk of the teacher getting their lines blurred. I think they end up relating to their students and forgetting they're the adult now. If you're a young teacher whose been out of school yourself, for all of a second, you should not be placed to teach in a high school. Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty clear line that any decent adult should be able to understand, but if I was responsible for staffing I would just avoid pairing these age groups.
I think you should join Robin Thicke in the blurred lines naughty corner, whilst the rest of society gets on with knowing exactly where those lines are drawn.

All teachers get extensive training on safeguarding both before and after qualification and they know damn well what is right and wrong.
 

Keri

Member
Certification is usually K-6 or 7-12, and I'd argue there's a large skill set difference between teaching middle school and high school. This isn't reasonable at all.

Eh, having a 24 year old teach classes of 17 and 18 year-olds, still seems like a recipe for disaster to me. The age range isn't that different, than what the teachers were paired with in college. Obviously, I don't think all young teachers are at risk of sleeping with students, but I have a hard time envisioning the teacher in that scenario being effective at their job. But, to be fair, I guess most young teachers (and most young anythings) aren't going to be the best at their jobs, anyway.

I still think my response to the question of "why do attractive women in their mid-to late 20s so often sleep with teenage students" is relevant though. I think the closeness in age is a factor in how those relationships get started.
 
Counselor here. I said this in the Cosby thread, and it applies to an extent here too:

"Sexual abuse is not a problem that is best solved through punishment. Like so many other cruelties, it must be solved through education. Teaching our kids the value of consent from the earliest age, removing long standing stigmas surrounding sex and sexuality, becoming a society where 'good touch, bad touch' and the 'bathing suit area' are as common knowledge as 1+1=2."

The difference in this case is that she's an attractive teacher giving attention to a student who probably desires it... that makes things extremely complicated. This contact seems to have been consensual, so the child is likely to defend their abuser even though the relationship was evidently illegal and sexually exploitative.

More paranoia isn't the solution (male teachers are already incredibly rare due to the fact that even the most trivial allegations can destroy one's life, it would be stupid to extend that fear to females as well when we should be working to eliminate it), and it's well documented that prohibiting physical contact does more harm than good, but I'm not sure you can stop two people who are attracted to each other from having sex.

I will clarify this though: Cases like this are extremely rare, and the number of sexually predatory teachers is not dramatically higher than sexually predatory lawyers, businessmen, clergy, etc. Sometimes, tragedies are just aberrations that could not have been prevented.
 

Johndoey

Banned
I don't understand why attractive women in their mid-late 20's so often sleep with young teenage students. In most of these cases that I've seen, the teacher shouldn't really have a problem finding hook-ups with other adults, so why the aversion to men her age? I'm sure there's some deep psychological impetus behind it, but it's still bizarre to me.

It's never about lack of access to appropriate sexual partners, it's about the power dynamic, it's control.
 
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