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[Subpar Spatula]

Please detail how Marvel manipulates the RT score, specifically. Your wildest thoughts on this, please.

Never said anything about manipulation.

I think you really need to reread my comments.

 

[HStallion]

Did you really assume legit marketing strategy is a conspiracy? You're better than this.

You just implied that RT and the movie studios seem to be in cahoots to sway reviewers to review in a certain manner.

 

[Primethius]

It'll probably bite me in the ass, but I'm cautiously optimistic about JL. The executives now in charge of the DCEU came on-board recently, and the first project they were able to really shepard was Wonder Woman. Obviously, a lot Wonder Woman's success rests at Patty Jenkins' feet, but I think that's a good sign for JL and the future of the DCEU.

I always want to be optimistic (especially since I enjoyed Wonder Woman and can't wait to see where they take the character next) but I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in Snyder.

Been burnt one too many times and nothing shown so far says to me that he learned how to make a good movie.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

*Marvel delievers another stand-out movie*
"Too much fun!"
"They're graded on a curve!"


Please keep the shitposts coming. And by "please", I mean don't.

Fam. We're at the "MCU gets a curve in their reviews" portion of the grieving process, we've still got more to weather here.

 

[Blader]

At least Garfield TRIES to throw some quips out there.

They sucked ass, but he tried. Tobey is just a giant sad sack.

It's not about Garfield trying and Tobey not trying. They're only reciting the lines written for them.

 

[Ottaro]

Critics Consensus: Spider-Man: Homecoming does whatever a second reboot can, delivering a colorful, fun adventure that fits snugly in the sprawling MCU without getting bogged down in franchise-building.

You just know someone at RT thought of this ages ago and has been itching to post it ever since :lol

 

[Subpar Spatula]

You just implied that RT and the movie studios seem to be in cahoots to sway reviewers to review in a certain manner.

Um where?

That wasn't the implication. You 100% misread.

 

[Inferno313]

Never said anything about manipulation.

I think you really need to reread my comments.

You said: "Marvel really knows how to make a movie review well."

How on earth do you believe that they've done that, if not by just making a great film?

 

[MugiwaraCole]

It's not about Garfield trying and Tobey not trying. They're only reciting the lines written for them.

Ultimately, this is why I refrain from judging Tobey all that harshly.

He was cast to play a kid fresh out of high school at his age and the script was what it was.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Mendelson's review had alot of positive impressions in there, but the real sore spot for him is that this Spider-Man messes up alot in the movie.

 

[Prompto]

Hah second rotten review by Scott Mendelson, the Forbes contributor. I love his reviews.

He strikes again!

Though I'm pretty sure he gave Wonder Woman, Guardians 2, and Logan positive reviews.

 

[DangerMouse]

Damn, we can get a decent Spider-Man movie and game back to back this gen if stars align.

Yeah, both seem to be shaping up great, can't wait for these!

 

[Raguel]

You said: "Marvel really knows how to make a movie review well."

How on earth do you believe that they've done that, if not by just making a great film?

Don't engage him. Or do so we can enjoy the mental gymnastics that he will provide as he does in almost every thread.

 

[jmdajr]

NEAT

 

[The Kree]

Argue with Nickelback fans on the internet.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

You said: "Marvel really knows how to make a movie review well."

How on earth do you believe that they've done that, if not by just making a great film?

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

 

[7Th]

It's probably gonna end between 88 and 91, which is actually pretty solid and better than expected. I'm still thinking Ragnarok is going to be the best comic book movie of the year, though.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

It could just be a bunch of people liked a movie you didn't.

 

[Raguel]

Argue with Nickelback fans on the internet.

Subpar indeed

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Almost every review seems to mention there is very little Tony. Which is hilarious considering how many people were complaining about this being Iron Man 4 when the trailers dropped

 

[MugiwaraCole]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

7.3 for a movie is great. This isn't IGN reviewing Assassin's Creed, guy. Logan is only a bit higher than that, and y'all loved that.

Marvel isn't doing anything to sway reviewers other than making great movies. Jesus.

 

[Fhtagn]

I had my expectations at 80% RT so as a Spidey fan from way back, I'm delighted.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

If you're a comic book fan at all, I can't see how anyone can be salty over the film offerings we've had this year. Everybody's winning.

 

[demosthenes]

Almost every review seems to mention there is very little Tony. Which is hilarious considering how many people were complaining about this being Iron Man 4 when the trailers dropped

It was a joke from the start how many latched on to thinking this was Iron Man 4. Perfect example of the internet over reacting.

If you're a comic book fan at all, I can't see how anyone can be salty over the film offerings we've had this year. Everybody's winning.

But Marvel is pulling a fast one on the general public with their highly rated RT score.

 

[Inferno313]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

First off, an average score of 7.3 is pretty fucking good. Film critics know how to use the whole scale, they're not game critics. There's not some big discrepancy there. That's a pretty normal score for a 90% blockbuster to end up with.

Secondly, if the game is so easy to understand, why do other studios keep fucking it up? A genuinely middle-of-the-road comic book movie like Man of Steel sits in the 50s. If it's so easy, why didn't DC just make it a little more middle-of-the-road so that it'd have a 90%?

 

[Busty]

I have to admit, there's a part of me that wants this film to be a critical and financial smash just to see whether it makes the growing feud between Sony and Marvel Studios break out into all out war.

 

[Elandyll]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

Only if you don't understand how RT works though.
It's about a binary consensus (watch/ do not watch).

 

[Inferno313]

I have to admit, there's a part of me that wants this film to be a critical and financial smash just to see whether it makes the growing feud between Sony and Marvel Studios break out into all out war.

W-why would it do that?

If anything, it would make Sony calm down about their other Spidey plans, I'd imagine. These studios are just going to chase whatever they see as the most profitable route.

 

[chadskin]

I have to admit, there's a part of me that wants this film to be a critical and financial smash just to see whether it makes the growing feud between Sony and Marvel Studios break out into all out war.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

It could just be a bunch of people liked a movie you didn't.

That's where it gets tricky with the words like and disliked. It's actually a big spectrum that Rotten Tomatoes doesn't want to engage with cause it's messy.

Again, all I'm saying is you shouldn't derive much hype from RT. It's usually not what the reviewers believe.

 

[Oersted]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

Yes, the scores are okay. Not rotten. Thats all what it needs. And yes, that easier to pass barrier is used for marketing.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

This is your opinion of the movie. Not every reviewer is going to share this opinion. You not liking a movie that is well reviewed does not make the review numbers "misleading."

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

It could just be a bunch of people liked a movie you didn't.

Impossible.

 

[JayCB]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

The middle of an out of ten grading system is 5.

 

[Inferno313]

That's where it gets tricky with the words like and disliked. It's actually a big spectrum that Rotten Tomatoes doesn't want to engage with cause it's messy.

Again, all I'm saying is you shouldn't derive much hype from RT. It's usually not what the reviewers believe.

WHAT

That's literally exactly what RT is about. If a critic likes a movie, it gets a red tomato. If they dislike it, it gets a green splat. It's not fucking complicated.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Y'all are wasting your time.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Guys, stop engaging obvious trolls. For your own sanity.

 

[demosthenes]

That's where it gets tricky with the words like and disliked. It's actually a big spectrum that Rotten Tomatoes doesn't want to engage with cause it's messy.

Again, all I'm saying is you shouldn't derive much hype from RT. It's usually not what the reviewers believe.

You seem pretty strong about wanting to convince people to not enjoy something. Why?

We enjoy movies. Check.
We enjoy CBM. Check.
We enjoy the MCU. Check.
We enjoy Spider Man. Check.

Knowing that something is reviewing well before you go see it gives a good feeling. I just don't understand why you need us to dismiss this.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

That's where it gets tricky with the words like and disliked. It's actually a big spectrum that Rotten Tomatoes doesn't want to engage with cause it's messy.

Again, all I'm saying is you shouldn't derive much hype from RT. It's usually not what the reviewers believe.

The % is exactly what the reviewers believe, though.

It's literally the % of them that say "watch" and "do not watch". It's not supposed to be a perfect reflection of the average rating.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[GAMEPROFF]

So much stupid shit in this thread again.

Looks like a salt silo collapsed or something.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

So much stupid shit in this thread again.

Looks like a salt silo collapsed or something.

Your avi is the perfect image for this thread.

 

[Raguel]

I blame this on you jon bones. Is this what you wanted??? BACK TO FORMULA!

 

[McBryBry]

https://youtu.be/3KquFZYi6L0

Dismissers in this thread right now.

I'm pumped for the movie, really excited to see what's good with Holland.

 

[demosthenes]

Guys, stop engaging obvious trolls. For your own sanity.

I am, I can't anymore, that and lunch is over, back to counting things.

 

[AndersK]

You'd think the great run WW had would've made the usual suspects less man-babyish. But nah.

Watch this edge out WW but the slimmest margin in RT and average. This thread is gonna implode.

 

[Prompto]

I blame this on you jon bones. Is this what you wanted??? BACK TO FORMULA!

Misery, misery, misery. That's what this thread has chosen.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I have to admit, there's a part of me that wants this film to be a critical and financial smash just to see whether it makes the growing feud between Sony and Marvel Studios break out into all out war.

The MCU will be divided like Korea.

 

[Neoxon]

If you're a comic book fan at all, I can't see how anyone can be salty over the film offerings we've had this year. Everybody's winning.

This guy gets it. We should all be happy about great comic book films, regardless of who makes them.

 

[Blader]

Because Marvel and other studios understand the game a bit? Let's go back to Dr. Strange. It sits at 90% but the average review is 7.3. Time and time again has shown you could make a really middle of the road average movie but reviewers will find that OK. It then boosts hype due to, ya know, what's currently happening right now.

All I'm saying is take it with a grain of salt. MCU % scores have been quite misleading in the past.

It's not misleading if you know what RT percentages are actually referring to.