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Crash Bandicoot N Sane Trilogy - Review Thread
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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Gamer.no 9/10
https://www.gamer.no/artikler/anmeldelse-crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy/396724
TrueGaming 8.5
https://www.true-gaming.net/home/343438/
https://www.gamer.no/artikler/anmeldelse-crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy/396724
TrueGaming 8.5
https://www.true-gaming.net/home/343438/
SafeinSound
Member
Could give a shit about these scores. Game was great then. Game is great now (I just replayed them within the last five years).
I hope they try their hand at a new Crash game in the same line of the classics but with better platforming and level design first, give Crash series what Donkey Kong Country: Return and DKC:TF gave to the DKC series.
Tropical Freeze got a 6/10 from GameSpot (ironically, difficulty played a part in that score as well) and 83 on Metacritic. I think the only platformers to get above 90 on Metacritic since the beginning of the PS4/Wii U era are 3D World (93) and Rayman Legends (92). Even some of the bigger names like Yoshi, Kirby and NSMBU got roughly 80 or so.
It's really difficult for platforming games to get into the higher scores, so 80 or so for a trilogy of 20 year old remakes is a solid performance for Crash.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
From the Gamespot Review:
This might be one of the stupidest things I've seen written in a video game review this year - I really, I can't even.
This might be one of the stupidest things I've seen written in a video game review this year - I really, I can't even.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Thanks, added.
SolidSnakex
Member
TF only having a 83 Metacric is genuinely mind boggling to me. I know it was disappointing to some that Retro were working on a new DK instead of Metroid or another IP, but they're among the absolute elite in terms of platform level design. The only real flaw in TF was the boss fights, but everything else is top notch for the genre.
SafeinSound
Member
I haven't read any of the reviews, as I never do for games, but Jesus Christ. He does realize this is a remaster/remake of the originals, right?
Its mind boggling that TF gets difficulty complaints when the game showers you with 1ups and items you can buy to help you progress.
If you really wanted to you could buy items and use them accordingly.
a lot of the reviews were hamstringing the issues of the Wii U itself onto the game
it wasn't enough to turn fortunes around for the system, didn't justify the gamepad, etc. it was not just critiqued on its own merits as a video game
also people look at 2D platformers and put them in a box right from the jump
If they can handled the difficulty and controls in a platformer, they shouldn't bother with a review, then. Tropical Freeze its far more difficult than any of the classic Crash Bandicoot, and i can assure you that its a brilliant game.
I agree. I'm willing to bet it's down to "another Donkey Kong game" by Retro, and alas prejudice reigns it's ugly head again.
And what phanphare said.
Muffin1611
Banned
Seems my 82 prediction was pretty close.
Still, lol Kenzo, you really had me sweating there for a second with that Gamespot review.
Still, lol Kenzo, you really had me sweating there for a second with that Gamespot review.
Sigh.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Why? Mario 64 isn't as surprising now like it was when it came out, the same for Halo, Half Life, etc. It's natural.
Yeah it kind of goes without saying that a 20 year old game isn't surprising, why even mention it.
Muffin1611
Banned
That anyone would think otherwise according to this guy is the ridiculous thing. Of course it won't be surprising or inventive. It's a remaster/remake. Lowering the score because of that is pretty stupid.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Because there will be people buying this game that never played the originals and should know that yeah, its gonna feel a little dated?
Muffin1611
Banned
That kinda inherently comes with it being a remaster. As it's described on the package.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
The statement is literally applicable to any piece of media made at almost any time - even the most hugely pivotal and seminal works in a medium. Once those innovations have been iterated upon, copied, updated and reimagined to the point of being commonplace it becomes almost impossible to appreciate how 'inventive' or 'surprising' they were in their own time.
It's stupid because it goes without saying.
Gotdatmoney
Member
It literally does not hurt anything to say it then?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
These scores seem fine, excited to play it.
Unknown?
Member
If they haven't played them that statement doesn't ring true.
Suburban Thug
Member
If you are talking gamespot the reviewer explains that the game will feel dated for newcomers. They mention that the platforming will feel rudimentary and that the incredible visuals can't hide this. That isn't "stupid" it's just an opinion that doesn't align with yours. I'm buying the game regardless of what any reviewer says because I know that I will enjoy it (despite never playing a crash game) but the amount of people getting riled up over a 6 is alarming. It's just a score.
Muffin1611
Banned
The sentence in the review implies that people thought the remake would be groundbreaking or something, when it's clear that it's just a remake and wouldn't be innovative.
He could give the game a score of 3 for all I care, it's his opinion (Although he didn't finish any of the three games, which I generally dislike in reviews). But I don't understand why anyone would go into the game expecting innovation according to him.
For me this is not the point. I insist that difficulty its an essential part of a platformer game. If they say that about Crash Bandicoot (im hoping they have trouble with the first one), they do have a problem.
For me this is disgusting man
bigDdestruction
Member
I honestly don't get the whole it's too hard argument and people not elaborating on it. That challenge and conquering is an amazing feeling. I love that sense of accomplishment. Do people not like fun anymore? Are people so used to hand holding nowadays? Dark souls is praised for its difficulty but a tough couple levels in crash warrants a deduction in points? I don't get it to be honest. And that reviewer at Gamespot needs to finish the games and amend his review imo.
AcademicSaucer
Member
You don't remember the sections where Crash is running towards the camera?
mindatlarge
Member
Glad this seems to be reviewing well. Gonna be picking it up for sure.
Z..
Member
This is false, Crash 1 is a lame game and pretty much always has been. Can't have stiff movement in a platformer, sorry. And that save system is just a clusterfuck. Excessively hard to 100%, too.
2 and 3 are indeed great, though.
If they are reffering to 1 specifically, it's challenge is not rewarding, necessary or well implemented and conquering it doesn't make you feel good at all, it only infuriates due to how poorly done it is.
Suburban Thug
Member
From what I gather the difficulty does not seem fair because times have changed. For example, in the souls series if you die it's entirely your fault. You can't blame the controls, physics, or anything else which is what makes playing them so rewarding. Crash on the other hand is filled with 'cheap' deaths that are a product of outdated game design.
Isn't it a remake though? That's what GAF is telling me.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Not to get into a huge debate about this but no not really. I played the KH remasters not long ago. The second I started KH1 it felt extremely dated. If you play games woth some sort of regularity (or even just a few games in the same genre) you can tell when something is dated.
I mean, I didn't really get that but okay sure.
I dont really think the line is a big deal. If you like Crash this is not going to disuade you. If you havent played them then its just saying it may feel dated. I dont find it that odd. Shrug.
Muffin1611
Banned
I would call it a remake too. It's made from the ground up. No clue why it's called "Remaster Plus" by their marketing.
If it is true that Tropical Freeze was lower in score because its was hard in deaths, then again is entirely on them man. I just finished the RetroStudios game and when you die, its just your fault, all yours.
And of what Crash are we talking here? only crash that its "hard" in terms of death its just Crash 1, and people who was really into the series says the fixed a lot of those problem with this remake.
I just think that gamespot are just bad at playing the game.
Suburban Thug
Member
I don't think they were expecting innovation out of a remaster of 20+ year old games. That seems more like an assumption you are making. I think the reviewer was trying to say that the games do not hold up as well as their nostalgia would have them believe, especially Crash 1. I didn't see them complaining about a lack of new features or anything like that which would imply they expected innovation or something new.
get2sammyb
Member
The reviews are excellent for something like this. As usual, y'all are putting too much emphasis on one or two marginally dissenting opinions with totally respectable scores. (I assume a 6/10 is above average on the GameSpot scale, after all.)
Z..
Member
Read above. It's not rewarding or well designed in the slightest, git gud doesn't apply in the slightest. So much so they fixed it in the sequels and nobody complained and they are universally considered better. Tropical Freeze and Super Meat Boy are examples where git gud applies, Crash 1 you can only git gud at the developers, really.