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InFAMOUS [Mafia] [OT] No Good Karma...
- Thread starter melonrabbit
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sorry I meant cop/investigator of some kind. I'm coming down from a few werewolf games
Zippedpinhead
Member
If this was from anyone else but you and kawl i would think you were scum trying to use a town read from a confirmed townie as fact.
Just because time and AB flipped town doesn't mean CCS is not scum. It just means that a townie thought he wasn't. Now I'm thinking he isn't scum either, but this line of thought can be easily co-opted from scum.
I'm far more interested in flame_AC today. Almost claimed yesterday, but then (very reasonably) did not (sensible play). It's the easy move into almost claiming that I don't understand. Not claiming makes sense regardless of who you are/what role you have.
Why would scum do what you incorrectly said I am doing
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Re: Bronx
One liners and sheep votes is his MO regardless of alignment. So it's a bit disingenuous to vote him out based on that, but since he's always suspicious he'll never be night killed. He's like a poor man's Blarg.
One liners and sheep votes is his MO regardless of alignment. So it's a bit disingenuous to vote him out based on that, but since he's always suspicious he'll never be night killed. He's like a poor man's Blarg.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Not sure what to make of this whole CCS/cab deal. I think cab has been pretty town, playing aggressively as usual. CCS definitely looks like the weaker one in this exchange with his OMGUS style of play. It's not a traditional scum play but what is traditional anymore?
Poor? The term is working-class, thank you very much.
Ya talkin to the American Dream, Bronx-Man, daddeh
Nope. Don't agree with this thought at all.
I am still unsure of CCS but nothing time says sways my view. He wasn't aggressive enough to be killed for a read.
I'm still somewhat curious about Flame_AC too. He threatened to claim near the end of the dayphase because he wouldn't be around at the end, so we let him off the hook there. However, there is still a lot of unresolved suspicion from Day 1 around him.
Flame, I would like to see you speak up and address the accusations that you were coasting and acting scummy through Day 1. I'm not asking you to role claim at all, I don't think that is required or even necessarily helpful, but I don't want to simply ignore your suspicious behavior just because you threatened to claim.
I also have some suspicion for CCS over the end of day voting. It isn't really because CCS engaged in voting shenanigans. After all, I did too, which I apologize to everyone for. However, I made it a point to not directly tie the vote, and I also avoided putting my vote on Dusk, who at the time I was pretty sure wasn't scum. On the other hand, CCS didn't seem particularly interested in the actual outcome of the vote. His voting behavior was sewing chaos, but he never betrayed any actual interest in or opinions on the two people being voted off.
Flame, I would like to see you speak up and address the accusations that you were coasting and acting scummy through Day 1. I'm not asking you to role claim at all, I don't think that is required or even necessarily helpful, but I don't want to simply ignore your suspicious behavior just because you threatened to claim.
I also have some suspicion for CCS over the end of day voting. It isn't really because CCS engaged in voting shenanigans. After all, I did too, which I apologize to everyone for. However, I made it a point to not directly tie the vote, and I also avoided putting my vote on Dusk, who at the time I was pretty sure wasn't scum. On the other hand, CCS didn't seem particularly interested in the actual outcome of the vote. His voting behavior was sewing chaos, but he never betrayed any actual interest in or opinions on the two people being voted off.
How would it serve scum to mess around during the vote, given it was town/town.
Usually seems pretty aggressive as well whenever questioned and he's been really... Zen this game
I feel like I've seen games where he played like this and wasn't scum so I wouldn't put that as a point against him. Although I do think he has been suspicious.
OceanicAir
Member
I was looking back and at first I saw that Ri did do that towards the end of D1 which I didn't think was too bad. But then he carried that into today and I'm not sure if that is just short-sighted thinking on town's part or mafia's. Because it doesn't make much sense from a mafia standpoint for CCS to want to tie especially when voting one of the two out would be virtually blameless.
He was pretty aggressive in DR3 and was scum there so I don't think that means a whole lot.
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Also, while I'm aware that she's new and the accompanying curve that can come with that, Waffle has been concerning to me partially due to how little impacts are statements have made and also some other nighttime stuff involving her that I'll talk about after I hear more from her. It could turn out to be nothing mind you, but still.
I wanted to untie the vote, I was having fun but I didn't want it to actually end up tied.
You just seem pretty scummy. I can't quantify it, it's a pretty pure gut read.
I viewed them both as town, but I was more certain about Dusk than AB.
this is %100 okay for now
don't question the list like this
I am on mobile so i cant search through your posts very easily, but didnt you have skyodin on your scum list on D1?
What changed to have him removed?
skyodin was on the list day 1, i voted DS over him
isaacnukem
Member
Hello, I'll catch up in a few hours.
OceanicAir
Member
Bronx, I don't have too strong feelings on. Hasn't seemed to be provoked in any fashion that tends to happen in games.
cabot, while being great at moving discussion, could be filling into the role that Natiko filled in DR3 (he was mafia) where people got used to him and assumed townieness due to a lot of talking. But as of D2 I'm not bothered in any significant manner as nothing in his arguments strikes me as off and seems to be equal opportunity in going after people and seeking opinions.
Isaac had a very fast start at the beginning of D1 (like others have mentioned) and cooled off towards the end. Not sure if that means anything. Haven't really examined his posts too closely though.
Also, while I do appreciate it, why am I off the list lol. You were beating that drum practically all of D1
Agree with this but don't know what it means for his alignment. He did seem overconfident after day end and start of today, which makes me suspicious.
This post was ok until the last line, now it's wishy washy nothingness. Why do you think he's been suspicious? What's your overall read on him?
This post worries me, it's the kind of post you might make if you weren't reading the game, but Cabot, Kalor, OceanicAir and myself at least have all noticed a difference with Bronx.
There's nothing substantial towards why I think he is suspicious. Just a gut feeling at this point.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Time to lay some bait then...
Well, first of all, that was the suspicion I had back at the end of day one, and it's possible I got tunnel-visioned on that and failed to realize what impact AB's towniness had on the end-of-day shenanigans.
But even when both are town, tying the vote delays town. If the vote had been tied, I don't think we would've given up on AB and Dusk. If anything we'd be more certain that at least one of them is scum. We'd possibly spend two additional days (and maybe some night powers) lynching/investigating/nightkilling both of them. Seems pretty good for scum.
Even a failed attempt to tie the vote could've made us more suspicious of AB. We don't think the mafia killed him, so they wouldn't have known that he'd already be cleared at this point in time. Without that night kill we could be wasting day two lynching AB.
Meanwhile, I really don't see a good reason (and neither has supplied one) for CCS or Sky to have started nonsense at that stage of the day.
As a result of my time table, I knew that I wouldn't be around for the end of day and only slightly about ~6 hours before the deadline. When I suggested the claim, it was as a slow train was forming around me that I knew I wouldn't be able to stop past my stated deadline. It worked, right? I didn't get lynched and the train moved on, call it self-preservation if you want I guess? No need for town to make a mistake on me when we could try on someone I didn't know about.
I agree with you cabot, I feel like town would be the only ones likely to be involved in the day end tie mess. No reason for scum to hop in there, at least in trying to draw attention to themselves by tying the vote, as they were already satisfied with the vote outcome.
For better/worse I always take a tad to adjust to a new game / get into gear, so you can put that as the reason for my slow start. If it appeared like coasting to you, I'd disagree, I see it as more of like the stretching before a workout. As for the suggestion that I was acting scummy, I feel like most/all of the explanations and reasons why I was 'scummy' was due to the infrequent posts/not super detailed reasoning/thoughts. If that's what the barometer is for a scum read, then sure, I can see why I might register on some of y'alls radar during/after Day 1 and would even agree with such a train of thought, at least to a certain extent.
As has been kind of brought up before, trying to figure out the source of / meaning of the doctor kill is rather useless right now if we take the assumption that it wasn't the scum kill. I was partially inclined a little bit earlier to throw a vote onto isaacnukem and see if the other voters and I could get something to shake from that tree. However, I think it might be more beneficial to look at the causes of the Dusk Soldier lynch, try to examine who made it from one of the voting candidates to the train of the day (excepting the day end shenanigans with tie stuff). Bronx-Man was my original pick for this reason on the first day and so I'm tempted to vote them again, at least for now.
Vote: Bronx-Man