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Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2017 (Aug 28 - Sep 03)

Yup, but TPC always do their own stuff, and Pokémon games are not frequently mentioned in regular Direct. There's CoroCoro out this week, so we'll hear something pretty soon. I suspect pre-orders will go live on September 22nd, same day Gold/Silver and Pokkén are out.

Edit: uh, looks like the Monster Hunter Stories anime is getting an English dub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkGpvo4rD0 (probably region-locked?)

Funimation has a license for Monster Hunter Stories dub and for quite some time already (ANN). Maybe the first episode is coming to the Nintendo Anime Channel on 3DS?
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Hmm yeah, that's a good point. Kirby and Yoshi both have a '2018' release windows, so it doesn't have to be H1 2018, although it would be a bit weird to announce it already in that case...

I'm saying this also because during the post E3 presentations around Europe they actually went deeper in showing and describing the Yoshi demo (slipping out a possible H1, off the record), while the Kirby one wasn't even mentioned (just videos on screen)
 

noshten

Member
That's a reasonable trepidation imo. In Japan, I definitely see the game exploding to over twice its previous size, thanks the hype having caught on for Splatoon and the game being on a much more successful system which is a handheld to boot and will sell multiple times the Wii U LTD. In the west, however, the question remains how much the Splatoon hype has caught on. First month sales for Splatoon 2 was over twice the number for Splatoon 1's first month, but the number of days was not equal. I think we can do a comparison if/when we get sales numbers (via the famous NPD leak) for Splatoon 2 second month, in order to judge the game's potential. Information about Europe is sparse, except for the fact that Splatoon 2 did almost twice the number Splatoon 1 did in UK. That info is not too important, though, since it's the legs that matter most, but those are also the things we get the least solid numbers for.

I think that with the current attach rate and popularity of Splatoon 2 - 3 million(double the Wii U LTD) will be achieved by the end of 2017 fairly easily. Legs of Splatoon were due to updates, splatfest and continued marketing. Nintendo will no doubt continue to push the game as the major reason for subscriptions for their online service in 2018 - especially in Japan. Hence I've maintained it would end up being one of the best selling games in Japan LTD. I'm thinking that by the end of 2018 it would be over 5 million in Japan alone.

In other regions we are yet to see how much growth it would end up seeing. I can certainly see it doing very well overtime as updates and marketing is rolled out, In NA I think it would be a top 5 title for the August NPD. With Walmart bundles being rolled out in September it might have a good hold in September as well. I think it's certainly over 600K in NA by now with digital/bundles.
In terms of Europe Splatoon 2 is doing 50K in the UK without digital, over 40K in Spain by the end of August without digital. Even higher numbers in France and Germany are extremely likely, so I'd say that doing over 500K in Europe by the end of August is possible.
I don't know if it will show the same kinda of legs as Splatoon but with Switch continuing to grow it's userbase I don't see sales slumping until the updates cease.
 

Zedark

Member
I think that with the current attach rate and popularity of Splatoon 2 - 3 million(double the Wii U LTD) will be achieved by the end of 2017 fairly easily. Legs of Splatoon were due to updates, splatfest and continued marketing. Nintendo will no doubt continue to push the game as the major reason for subscriptions for their online service in 2018 - especially in Japan. Hence I've maintained it would end up being one of the best selling games in Japan LTD. I'm thinking that by the end of 2018 it would be over 5 million in Japan alone.

Yeah, 4 million is going to easily achieved before the end of 2018 imo, and 5 million should definitely be possible as well. Using 5 million as a basis (it might be even higher, but I don't want to use that as an assumption), the rest of the world needs to sell only 5 million more. That would be 1.9 million more than Splatoon 1 did.

In other regions we are yet to see how much growth it would end up seeing. I can certainly see it doing very well overtime as updates and marketing is rolled out, In NA I think it would be a top 5 title for the August NPD. With Walmart bundles being rolled out in September it might have a good hold in September as well. I think it's certainly over 600K in NA by now with digital/bundles.
In terms of Europe Splatoon 2 is doing 50K in the UK without digital, over 40K in Spain by the end of August without digital. Even higher numbers in France and Germany are extremely likely, so I'd say that doing over 500K in Europe by the end of August is possible.
I don't know if it will show the same kinda of legs as Splatoon but with Switch continuing to grow it's userbase I don't see sales slumping until the updates cease.

True, although Splatoon 2 seems to be dropping dangerously low in the UK charts (24th right now), but maybe UK is just not a good temperature measure for Europe in general when it comes to this game. We will see. Splatoon 2 numbers should easily surpass the Splatoon 1 numbers in US, with the first month numbers, and also the bundle in September. I think 10 million should really be reachable for the game in the end, a massive success at any rate.
 
I'm saying this also because during the post E3 presentations around Europe they actually went deeper in showing and describing the Yoshi demo (slipping out a possible H1, off the record), while the Kirby one wasn't even mentioned (just videos on screen)

I couldn't be at the post-E3 events, so I didn't know that. But your reasoning is good, so you're probably right. It makes sense that way.
 

sphinx

the piano man
I am kind of lost here.

people are expecting a Nintendo direct because "it's about time" or is there certainty about it happening??
 
I am kind of lost here.

people are expecting a Nintendo direct because "it's about time" or is there certainty about it happening??

Some gaffers who have previously predicted stuff like L.A. Noire on Switch have hinted at a direct coming sometime this week.
 
True, although Splatoon 2 seems to be dropping dangerously low in the UK charts (24th right now), but maybe UK is just not a good temperature measure for Europe in general when it comes to this game. We will see. Splatoon 2 numbers should easily surpass the Splatoon 1 numbers in US, with the first month numbers, and also the bundle in September. I think 10 million should really be reachable for the game in the end, a massive success at any rate.
I think Splatoon isn't that relevant in the UK compared to NA and Japan or even other european countries
There's been mentions of retailers hinting a direct too but I don't know what that's about.
If there isn't any announcement today then we can safely assume that the next Sirect won't happen anytime soon
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
I couldn't be at the post-E3 events, so I didn't know that. But your reasoning is good, so you're probably right. It makes sense that way.

No problem!
I was just sharing some small "inside" info, that could also been still subject to change

I am kind of lost here.

people are expecting a Nintendo direct because "it's about time" or is there certainty about it happening??

All those NDA's should expire sooner or later! ;p
Jokin': there have been sparse hints from Twitter and GAF guys here and there about a possible Nintendo bunch of info to be released soon
A Direct should be the logical way to manage them
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
I'm expecting a Direct to be announced today lol

I know I might be let down ☹️

Yes, I can't handle the anticipation until...tomorrow!

Jokin'! I think that within mid September Nintendo should really disclose some info for the Q4 games, even just the announced and known one, plus Kirby 3DS. Could be through a Direct or retailer meetings, but something will come up.

I'm not sure that a Direct will cover third party unannounced game, on the other hand.
first, I'm still absolutely not sure aout actual third party efforts, but on top of that, we could probably see these possible third party games announced directly at TGS by the various publisher, not necessarily in a Nintendo Direct, especially if (as I suspect) those games will not be out so soon
 
How many Switch Million sellers are we looking at in 2017?
2? 3?
I mean Splatoon 2 is already there but is MK8D expected to get there soon as well(could Zelda see a sales resurgence????)
 

jonno394

Member
How many Switch Million sellers are we looking at in 2017?
2? 3?
I mean Splatoon 2 is already there but is MK8D expected to get there soon as well(could Zelda see a sales resurgence????)

I think MK8D has a shot for 2017, but not Zelda. Zelda will get to 1m, but not until in to 2018 I bet.
 

L~A

Member
How many Switch Million sellers are we looking at in 2017?
2? 3?
I mean Splatoon 2 is already there but is MK8D expected to get there soon as well(could Zelda see a sales resurgence????)

2, Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Maybe the possible mystery November game if there really is a mystery November game. Odyssey and Zelda will get there, but not this year (especially not Switch-only for the latter).
 

WestEgg

Member
I think Nintendo's been holding back a lot of announcements that they need to communicate sooner or later anyway, so a Direct this week would make sense. As far as I know we still need:


  • Skyrim release date
  • Rocket League Release Date
  • Zelda DLC/Amiibo release date
  • Stardew Valley Release Date
  • Xenoblade 2 Release Date
  • More Info on Ultra Sun and Moon

Nintendo's probably gearing up for the Holiday Marketing Blitz, so now is a good time to get their schedule set and advertised.
 
Yes, I can't handle the anticipation until...tomorrow!

Jokin'! I think that within mid September Nintendo should really disclose some info for the Q4 games, even just the announced and known one, plus Kirby 3DS. Could be through a Direct or retailer meetings, but something will come up.

I'm not sure that a Direct will cover third party unannounced game, on the other hand.
first, I'm still absolutely not sure aout actual third party efforts, but on top of that, we could probably see these possible third party games announced directly at TGS by the various publisher, not necessarily in a Nintendo Direct, especially if (as I suspect) those games will not be out so soon

Yeah I expect games to be saved for TGS since it's next week. We need release dates for games! And I think we'll see Golf Story get a date and some push behind it from Nintendo.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
GEO top 10

01./00. [PS4] Destiny 2 <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.09.06} (¥7.900)
02./01. [PS4] Everybody's Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.08.31} (¥5.900)
03./00. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800)
04./03. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.07.29} (¥5.980)
05./02. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.25} (¥5.800)
06./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
07./05. [3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers <RPG> (Level 5) {2017.08.10} (¥4.800)
08./07. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.07.29} (¥8.980)
09./04. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 <RPG> (Atlus) {2017.08.31} (¥6.480)
10./06. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980)
___

Bundles aren't included, GEO confirms Xenoverse shortage nationwide.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I'm not sure that a Direct will cover third party unannounced game, on the other hand.
first, I'm still absolutely not sure aout actual third party efforts, but on top of that, we could probably see these possible third party games announced directly at TGS by the various publisher, not necessarily in a Nintendo Direct, especially if (as I suspect) those games will not be out so soon

Other than your typical pessimism, I'm not sure why you would think there wouldn't be 3rd party announcements at the Direct. There usually are- heck the April Direct saw 7-8 3rd party announcements and that was pretty minor.
 
Other than your typical pessimism, I'm not sure why you would think there wouldn't be 3rd party announcements at the Direct. There usually are- heck the April Direct say 7-8 3rd party announcements and that was pretty minor.

Add to that the fact that Vern heard there might be some more (western I'd guess) third party announcements soon:

Yea I've heard some 3rd party things recently. But I don't know if they will be shown at a direct or not. I am not privy to what Nintendo will share.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Other than your typical pessimism, I'm not sure why you would think there wouldn't be 3rd party announcements at the Direct. There usually are- heck the April Direct saw 7-8 3rd party announcements and that was pretty minor.

Add to that the fact that Vern heard there might be some more (western I'd guess) third party announcements soon:

I've just said that, if third parties are preparing games for Switch, I think they will mostly be H2 2018 games.
And with TGS being within few days/weeks, we could see more games announced there than in a Direct, being the Direct maybe more focused on news about already known games without crucial details (Kirby doesn't even have a proper name yet, Xenoblade hasn't a date yet, Odyssey hasn't clarified the amiibo integration, Sun & Moon is under the radar so far and so on)

Vern didn't say that there will be a Direct to announce third party games
I didn't say there won't be third party games
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I've just said that, if third parties are preparing games for Switch, I think they will mostly be H2 2018 games.
And with TGS being within few days/weeks, we could see more games announced there than in a Direct, being the Direct maybe more focused on news about already known games without crucial details (Kirby doesn't even have a proper name yet, Xenoblade hasn't a date yet, Odyssey hasn't clarified the amiibo integration, Sun & Moon is under the radar so far and so on)

Vern didn't say that there will be a Direct to announce third party games
I didn't say there won't be third party games

But if you look at Nintendo's August/September presentations/Directs, they basically always have Japanese 3rd party announcements- that's the whole point behind the timing- right before TGS. (in fact, I believe you usually see most TGS announcements actually announced before the event itself)
 

kulapik

Member
Guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if there's a direct or not, no announcement yet and this is usually the hour it happens
 
If they do announce a Direct and they say "This Nintendo Direct will focus on Switch and 3DS holiday titles".

You know we'll get "come on Nintendo why won't you guys talk about 2018 games! &#128545;"

I enjoy those posts lol.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
That's a nice debut for Everybody's Golf (I think), 100k ain't bad at all IMO.

ehh. It still represents another decline for one of Sony's few decent selling 1st party franchises in Japan.
 

kulapik

Member
If they do announce a Direct and they say "This Nintendo Direct will focus on Switch and 3DS holiday titles".

You know we'll get "come on Nintendo why won't you guys talk about 2018 games! &#128545;"

I enjoy those posts lol.
I think that with the precedent of the Direct "focused on ARMS and Splatoon 2" that also gave us a fuckton of announcements and the E3 Spotlight with "titles in 2017" that also announced a Kirby and a Yoshi for 2018 and a Pokemon and MP4, I don't think that will happen as much.
 
I think that with the precedent of the Direct "focused on ARMS and Splatoon 2" that also gave us a fuckton of announcements and the E3 Spotlight with "titles in 2017" that also announced a Kirby and a Yoshi for 2018 and a Pokemon and MP4, I don't think that will happen as much.

That makes sense. 10 minutes...
 
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