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Would he shout it in a crowded street or bar?, that's a pretty good litmus test of whether what you are saying is appropriate or not.
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Would he shout it in a crowded street or bar?, that's a pretty good litmus test of whether what you are saying is appropriate or not.
Yeah, but in North America this word has a strong history behind it, not in europe though. In Germany we have "Neger", but it has a totally different history behind it, starting with the fact, that no black german rapper calls himself "Neger". It doesn't help, that the word is used by every black rapper in the business.
Just to be clear. I'm talking explicit about the word "nigger", if for instance PDP did a german video and would call someone "Neger" there would have been a major outcry in
It doesn't help, that the word is used by every black rapper in the business.
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I'm French and i don't understand why people are so angry about this word, because in French we have a n-word for black people, a b-word for white people and a b-word for arabic people and sometimes people use it but there's no problem with this ?
But that's a cop-out. Yes, some people will never forgive PDP regardless of the sincerity or quality of his apology. That does not absolve him of his responsibility to help his audience of children understand his wrong doing.
The word itself does matter, the point I was making is that using any word in a derogatory sense is bad, using the n word is abhorrent.
Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).
I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.
You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.
Can anyone here honestly say they've never said anything in a moment of anger that they immediately regretted and didn't truly mean?
I said that in France when we use the word it's a friendly-way not a bad way, but if someone use it in a bad way, ok that's racist, but i said in french that Pewdiepie say it to nobody, so it can't be offended because he say that to a game
That apology.....
Have you seen the responses to his tweet?
https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/907595561565655040
Most people don't care. Apology accepted, and will forget about it next week.
yes, I watched that. He said "nigga" in a comedic context. Not even close to the same thing. I say nigga with my black friends. I guess I just have some chill friends. I'm willing to bet the most outraged people here are white.
I probably think he's got a financial adviser or some sort of accountant. Dude isn't stupid, he'll have management or someone around him making sure he doesnt do anything silly with his money because he's known for this controversies and probably won't be around forever.
WTF? Why are you all insult me? I just asked one question, i was reading this thread and just wanted to understand, i don't live in US so i don't get it.
I can honestly say that I never said anything racist in a moment of anger. Because I have no reason to direct my anger at other races.
Absolutely, but I don't see the middle ground stance as a cop-out at all. I personally don't feel like 'taking a side' in matters like this benefits anyone. The 'fuck you' approach helps nobody, nor does the 'we forgive you Felix' crowd. My personal approach is to try and take a balanced approach and see what comes of situations like this - I'm not willing to accept what he says at face value without seeing if/how he changes as a result nor am I willing to throw a bunch of shade his way and hate on him for screwing up just yet.
The French as a whole are fucking moronic racist.
And yet people are accepting it like if this is some first offense from some preteen kid.
In the wrestling world, we say to those folks that y'all being worked.
WTF? Why are you all insult me? I just asked one question, i was reading this thread and just wanted to understand, i don't live in US so i don't get it.
This is from earlier but I wanted to ask who is being disgusting towards Boogie exactly? I've read through most of the thread and I haven't seen that. the things he has been saying people should absolutely have a problem with. "political differences, oh wait I didn't mean that" and that whole "White people had to tolerate Black people moving into their neighborhoods" oh boy.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out Boogie's hypocrisy either. He is strongly against fat shaming and he should be, but it's only because it effects him (me too by the way). Somebody says "fat" and they are a horrible horrible person end of the discussion for Boogie. Somebody says the N word and he's going to go out of his way to try and absolve it away with two sides bs. It's as clear as day. I liked Boogie just as I liked PDP at one point, but enough is enough.
Absolutely, but I don't see the middle ground stance as a cop-out at all. I personally don't feel like 'taking a side' in matters like this benefits anyone. The 'fuck you' approach helps nobody, nor does the 'we forgive you Felix' crowd. My personal approach is to try and take a balanced approach and see what comes of situations like this - I'm not willing to accept what he says at face value without seeing if/how he changes as a result nor am I willing to throw a bunch of shade his way and hate on him for screwing up just yet.
That doesnt change the fact that most german people also know what "nigger" means, especially in a culture where so many people consume American media.
That part is definitely fuck off worthy. As he's basically is saying that racism is incredibly normalized in the gaming community and that he, the guy with the largest audience of children is part of the problem.Just saw the apology vid. All i have to say...
Gotta love the off the bat deflection of "I hear so many other people use this language when i play...."
Je suis dans le 78 et y a pas de problème avec mes potes, après si tu vas voir des gens que tu connais pas et que tu leurs dis "Hey négro !", là ouais ça passe pas, sauf que Pewdiepie, il dit ça à personne, c'est comme quand avec mon frère métisse ou mes potes renois on s'appelle Négro entre nous, y a aucun problème, c'est pas "méchant"
And yet people are accepting it like if this is some first offense from some preteen kid.
In the wrestling world, we say to those folks that y'all being worked.
This nigga's response seems ok.
Is racism in France a foreign conecpt? Or rather, is it the mentality of some people who choose to remain ignorant, bigoted and racist?
You decide.
Again, that doesn't mean he's prepared for a significant drop in income, I'm not going over this with you again
There's literally no indicator he's been good with money, and if he had good management, this would never have happened.
Lol what the fuck does rap have to do with this? Is he a rapper? Do white rappers use the word neger, nigger, or nigga? If not, why do you think that is?
The guy just said he's disturbed when he hears the word used. And here you are, arguing that it isn't loaded in Europe, where he's from? Not to mention he knows he has a following in the U.S. and world wide.
I said that in France when we use the word it's a friendly-way not a bad way, but if someone use it in a bad way, ok that's racist, but i said in french that Pewdiepie say it to nobody, so it can't be offended because he say that to a game
It was the most barebones "mea culpa" imaginable, and at the end, he undermines it by saying "if he offended anyone" continuing to show how little of a fuck he actually gives.
I dont even get how you would use a racist slur when you are angry.
My wife is Chinese and when I am angry I dont call her a "chink". I dont call my Polish friend racist slurs.
I dont even know why those slurs would enter my mind before "fucker" or "asshole" or "cunt".
So you're telling me you never rage quitted a game and then starting posting KKK photos on your Facebook wall in frustration?I dont even get how you would use a racist slur when you are angry.
My wife is Chinese and when I am angry I dont call her a "chink". I dont call my Polish friend racist slurs.
I dont even know why those slurs would enter my mind before "fucker" or "asshole" or "cunt".
yes, I watched that. He said "nigga" in a comedic context. Not even close to the same thing. I say nigga with my black friends. I guess I just have some chill friends. I'm willing to bet the most outraged people here are white.
I said that in France when we use the word it's a friendly-way not a bad way, but if someone use it in a bad way, ok that's racist, but i said in french that Pewdiepie say it to nobody, so it can't be offended because he say that to a game
yes, I watched that. He said "nigga" in a comedic context. Not even close to the same thing. I say nigga with my black friends. I guess I just have some chill friends. I'm willing to bet the most outraged people here are white.
Hello !
I'm French and i don't understand why people are so angry about this word, because in French we have a n-word for black people, a b-word for white people and a b-word for arabic people and sometimes people use it but there's no problem with this ?
I said that in France when we use the word it's a friendly-way not a bad way, but if someone use it in a bad way, ok that's racist, but i said in french that Pewdiepie say it to nobody, so it can't be offended because he say that to a game